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Brandon. · 27 March 2018, 09:56 PM

After having a Sub for a month, I just realized there was a Laser Etched Crown in the crystal. Looked at these watches for years and had no idea! Very little discussion on this counterfeit measure as well.

jrs146 · 27 March 2018, 09:58 PM

It’s like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow!

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Jim Smyth · 27 March 2018, 09:59 PM

Discussed quite a bit over the years.

https://www.rolexforums.com/search.p...rchid=19563810

Rushne · 27 March 2018, 11:21 PM

Hahaha I love that laser etched crown. It’s hard to find and every couple of months a post comes up with another persons surprise that its there. Love the joy this small marking brings :)

Brew · 27 March 2018, 11:29 PM

Bonus!

Devildog · 27 March 2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

It’s like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow!

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Sure is

jrs146 · 27 March 2018, 11:33 PM

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Sure is

That’s a great pic!

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REFZ · 27 March 2018, 11:36 PM

Topics about the LEC pop up at least once a month....

kelv_w · 27 March 2018, 11:51 PM

schoolboy · 28 March 2018, 12:54 AM

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Great pic

Ripcode · 31 March 2018, 12:41 AM

I could never find the crown on my original crystal, but the new crystal (that was installed by the RSC) was found very easily!

Valhala · 31 March 2018, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon.

After having a Sub for a month, I just realized there was a Laser Etched Crown in the crystal. Looked at these watches for years and had no idea! Very little discussion on this counterfeit measure as well.

The good counterfeiters have been adding the LEC to there watches for years in attempt to trick first time lookers... they have gotten so good that they have even copied the 3135 movement with colored gears

SearChart · 31 March 2018, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Valhala

The good counterfeiters have been adding the LEC to there watches for years in attempt to trick first time lookers... they have gotten so good that they have even copied the 3135 movement with colored gears

I saw one of those copies last week, terrifying.

Valhala · 31 March 2018, 01:18 AM

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I saw one of those copies last week, terrifying.

For a novice rolex buyer its dangerous....Bas was the color of the gears off on the one you saw?

SearChart · 31 March 2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Valhala

For a novice rolex buyer its dangerous....Was the color of the gears off on the one you saw?

It was all 'off', but like you say, for a novice this stuff can be dangerous.

c41006 · 31 March 2018, 01:20 AM

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I saw one of those copies last week, terrifying.

That is quite terrifying indeed. What happens when the line between authentic and counterfeit virtually disappears? Crazy to think about.

dreyep · 31 March 2018, 01:44 AM

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Crazy to think about.

Yes, everyone will be happy as there'll be no difference.

Speedbird-1 · 31 March 2018, 01:51 AM

Does the new 'crown' replace the LEC?

Speedbird-1 · 31 March 2018, 01:53 AM

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Yes, everyone will be happy as there'll be no difference.

The counterfeiters will have to put their prices up!

dreyep · 31 March 2018, 01:57 AM

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The counterfeiters will have to put their prices up!

But there'll be a waiting list.

fskywalker · 31 March 2018, 02:01 AM

In mines it is a lot easier to find in some versus in others. On my OP 116000 (random serial) and Sub 16610 (S serial, has it after getting a new sapphire crystal, not a feature on S serials at the time) easier to find versus on my Explorer 16570 (Y serial). My DD 18239 being older (A serial) does not has it. It is a very cool feature!

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siempreko · 31 March 2018, 02:03 AM

Is there be a gray market for these counterfeits?

Are they driving up prices?

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GradyPhilpott · 31 March 2018, 02:10 AM

ppbskis · 31 March 2018, 02:33 AM

The service dials even have an S inside the base of the crown.

dreyep · 31 March 2018, 02:38 AM

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The service dials even have an S inside the base of the crown.

Yes, as here, although hard to spot.

tyler1980 · 31 March 2018, 02:42 AM

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now that is a pic

Navarino · 31 March 2018, 03:32 AM

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Drooling over that bezel and dial...

skkali168 · 15 August 2018, 08:45 AM

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27 March 2018, 09:56 PM	#1
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31 March 2018, 02:01 AM	#21
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,179	Discovering Laser Etched Crown In mines it is a lot easier to find in some versus in others. On my OP 116000 (random serial) and Sub 16610 (S serial, has it after getting a new sapphire crystal, not a feature on S serials at the time) easier to find versus on my Explorer 16570 (Y serial). My DD 18239 being older (A serial) does not has it. It is a very cool feature! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

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27 March 2018, 11:21 PM	#4
Rushne 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 876	Hahaha I love that laser etched crown. It’s hard to find and every couple of months a post comes up with another persons surprise that its there. Love the joy this small marking brings :)

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Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	Bonus!

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31 March 2018, 12:41 AM	#11
Ripcode "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Michigan Watch: 16610 Posts: 319	I could never find the crown on my original crystal, but the new crystal (that was installed by the RSC) was found very easily!

31 March 2018, 01:51 AM	#18
Speedbird-1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Steve. Location: UK Posts: 6,472	Does the new 'crown' replace the LEC?

31 March 2018, 02:03 AM	#22
siempreko "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Maryland, USA Watch: Sometimes Posts: 1,197	Is there be a gray market for these counterfeits? Are they driving up prices? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 March 2018, 02:33 AM	#24
ppbskis "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pt. Pl. Beach, NJ Posts: 302	The service dials even have an S inside the base of the crown.

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