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Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 04:46 PM

Hi everyone,

First time poster here and would be grateful for your input.

I have decided I would like to trade (+ cash) my IWC Mark XVI for either a 36mm Explorer 114270 or a new blue OP 36 with the Explorer style dial. I am able to get them at a similar price, possibly a couple hundred USD more for the Explorer depending on condition.

I will treat this watch as my GADA and will rarely be off my wrist apart from a few activities where i'll use a beater. (Although would love to be able to swim with it with confidence).

Here are a few Pro's/info of the 2 models and i'm hopeful you could add some good advice.

Oyster Perpetual:

- Great looking sunburst blue dial
- Wears slightly larger than the Explorer and feels more robust on the wrist due to updated case with wider lugs etc.
- Updated solid feeling bracelet
- Lumed 3-6-9
- Parachrome hairspring so slightly more anti-magnetic?
- The 'OG' Explorer?
- 5 year Rolex warranty

Explorer:

- Great dial also
- A Rolex Sports model
- safety lock clasp
- Lumed second hand
- Holds it value better
- Would get a 6 month warranty from my dealer.

I have included a photo so you can check them out on my wrist side by side.

Thanks all!

roosvelt · 23 August 2018, 06:11 PM

I say the OP. You can swim with confidence with it 100m is fine for swimming!!

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:01 PM

Thanks for your feedback. It would be nice to have a watch which is brand new for sure.

Maybe at some point Rolex would make the Explorer a little smaller again (Like they did with the large date just) , then in the future I could get that one to go along with the OP if I get the OP now. The 39mm Explorer wears O.K on me but a little large for my personal preference.

iVAMP · 23 August 2018, 07:02 PM

If you like blue dial, I recommend the 116000.
It is brand new (with the updated thicker hands), It has a 5 years warranty and a better brazelet.

Innocenti · 23 August 2018, 07:10 PM

I’ve been facing the same dilemma.

I love the explorer - especially the earlier ones with the lugholes .

However I’m leaning more towards the blue 116000 with a view to add explorer hands .
That little blue dial is a work of art - and I would class it as a sports watch the same as the explorer

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:12 PM

Thanks iVAMP.

I do really like the blue dial! Yes it would be a new model with the thicker hands, newer Rolex rehaut engraving etc.

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:18 PM

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:29 PM

Cheers Innocenti.

Yes the blue dial is amazing the way it plays with the light and I'm pretty sure I would be happy with it.

I have seen someone in the forum modded his 116000 with the Explorer hands and it looks great! However I think I would keep mine all original though and maybe look to add an Explorer at some point in the future if Rolex introduced a new slightly smaller version.

Yes the reason i prefer this particular OP over others is because of the more sporty aesthetic.

Innocenti · 23 August 2018, 07:35 PM

I have my fingers crossed they will also go back to 36mm on the explorer .
Actually I’m hoping they reduce the size of a lot of the watches

Love the explorer 2 - but for me too big
The 39mm Explorer - too big

A while back I bought my first Rolex . A birth year sub. I love it however there in no getting away from it being a rattly old watch! A couple of months later I bought a new 36mm Rolex .
It is in a different class, the engineering and attention to crisp detail is a joy. For that reason I think the blue watch is a good choice

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:40 PM

Thanks again.

Yeh all the old models fit me pretty great!

That definitely helps a lot to know that the newer models are really worth it from your first hand experience. As I want to use it as a GADA, I think the modern upgrades would suit me more so at the moment i'm leaning towards the OP.

MattPegler · 23 August 2018, 07:40 PM

I'm biased as I have just purchased the 116000 with a blue dial, I would recommend it. The Explorer's dial isn't as special.

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:42 PM

Wow, looks great in your profile pic Matt! Like a glove!
Do you use it as your daily wearer?

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 07:44 PM

Is the lume decent?
Is it green or blue like the new explorer models?

MattPegler · 23 August 2018, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch Explorer

Wow, looks great in your profile pic Matt! Like a glove!
Do you use it as your daily wearer?

Yes, and it is perfect. I tried on the Explorer, but found it too be untrue to the original character of the original 'Explorer' of Sir Edmund Hillary - so went for the blue OP

fskywalker · 23 August 2018, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch Explorer

Hi everyone,

First time poster here and would be grateful for your input.

I have decided I would like to trade (+ cash) my IWC Mark XVI for either a 36mm Explorer 114270 or a new blue OP 36 with the Explorer style dial. I am able to get them at a similar price, possibly a couple hundred USD more for the Explorer depending on condition.

I will treat this watch as my GADA and will rarely be off my wrist apart from a few activities where i'll use a beater. (Although would love to be able to swim with it with confidence).

Here are a few Pro's/info of the 2 models and i'm hopeful you could add some good advice.

Oyster Perpetual:

- Great looking sunburst blue dial

- Wears slightly larger than the Explorer and feels more robust on the wrist due to updated case with wider lugs etc.

- Updated solid feeling bracelet

- Lumed 3-6-9

- Parachrome hairspring so slightly more anti-magnetic?

- The 'OG' Explorer?

- 5 year Rolex warranty

Explorer:

- Great dial also

- A Rolex Sports model

- safety lock clasp

- Lumed second hand

- Holds it value better

- Would get a 6 month warranty from my dealer.

I have included a photo so you can check them out on my wrist side by side.

Thanks all!

OP 116000 with explorer hands upgrade!

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Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 08:06 PM

Nice one fskywalker!

Seems you are all in favour of the new OP!

Explorer1nyc · 23 August 2018, 10:03 PM

Blue dial is my vote

Innocenti · 23 August 2018, 10:05 PM

Which one did you like best ?

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 10:21 PM

When I first saw and tried on the Explorer my initial reaction was that it was considerably smaller than what I was used to with the IWC mark XVI which is 39mm. One reason I would like to trade is I would like a slightly smaller size going forward.

If the Explorer had the updated case etc. I would probably go for that I reckon. But the OP felt really good and looks like a great fit IMO on my wrist in real life and in pics.

My grandfather wore a Rolex and my father is somewhat of an Explorer of mountain ranges around the world since he has retired. I'm also drawn to the attached history of these pieces. The OP can hold its own in this regard right?

Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 10:29 PM

Here are a couple more shots of the watches on my wrist. Cheers

doramas · 23 August 2018, 10:34 PM

I prefer 114270

fskywalker · 23 August 2018, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch Explorer

Nice one fskywalker!

Seems you are all in favour of the new OP!

I don’t own the OP anymore but after owning both models you are looking at my vote would be in favor of the OP.

There is actually a Japan only version of the OP 11600 with black dial and white markers (not the one with purple lume markers) which with the explorer hands would be the ultimate OP 116000

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Watch Explorer · 23 August 2018, 10:37 PM

Interesting to know fskywalker thanks!

Innocenti · 24 August 2018, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch Explorer

When I first saw and tried on the Explorer my initial reaction was that it was considerably smaller than what I was used to with the IWC mark XVI which is 39mm. One reason I would like to trade is I would like a slightly smaller size going forward.

If the Explorer had the updated case etc. I would probably go for that I reckon. But the OP felt really good and looks like a great fit IMO on my wrist in real life and in pics.

My grandfather wore a Rolex and my father is somewhat of an Explorer of mountain ranges around the world since he has retired. I'm also drawn to the attached history of these pieces. The OP can hold its own in this regard right?

Don’t forget it wasn’t the explorer that went with Hilary on his accent of Everest but instead an OP .

Watch Explorer · 24 August 2018, 07:03 PM

Yes that was my understanding also Innocenti. Do you know why I hear people say 'I bought the Explorer over the OP because of the history'?
To my knowledge I thought the OP has a history thats very hard to beat!? Being the first waterproof and automatic wrist watch etc. Which model has the better history do you reckon? Cheers.

Innocenti · 24 August 2018, 07:51 PM

i Don’t know enough about them. Buy the one you like to look at the most ��

Coop13 · 24 August 2018, 07:53 PM

Wrist size?

Watch Explorer · 24 August 2018, 07:59 PM

6.5 inch wrist. Which one do you prefer?

Watch Explorer · 25 August 2018, 05:27 PM

Anymore input from people who are familiar with one or both models?

Yodel · 25 August 2018, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innocenti

I have my fingers crossed they will also go back to 36mm on the explorer .
Actually I’m hoping they reduce the size of a lot of the watches

Love the explorer 2 - but for me too big
The 39mm Explorer - too big

A while back I bought my first Rolex . A birth year sub. I love it however there in no getting away from it being a rattly old watch! A couple of months later I bought a new 36mm Rolex .
It is in a different class, the engineering and attention to crisp detail is a joy. For that reason I think the blue watch is a good choice

This. Get the new one. You can’t beat that feeling of a new Rolex!

23 August 2018, 04:46 PM	#1
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Explorer 114270 VS. OP 36mm 'Explorer dial' Hi everyone, First time poster here and would be grateful for your input. I have decided I would like to trade (+ cash) my IWC Mark XVI for either a 36mm Explorer 114270 or a new blue OP 36 with the Explorer style dial. I am able to get them at a similar price, possibly a couple hundred USD more for the Explorer depending on condition. I will treat this watch as my GADA and will rarely be off my wrist apart from a few activities where i'll use a beater. (Although would love to be able to swim with it with confidence). Here are a few Pro's/info of the 2 models and i'm hopeful you could add some good advice. Oyster Perpetual: - Great looking sunburst blue dial - Wears slightly larger than the Explorer and feels more robust on the wrist due to updated case with wider lugs etc. - Updated solid feeling bracelet - Lumed 3-6-9 - Parachrome hairspring so slightly more anti-magnetic? - The 'OG' Explorer? - 5 year Rolex warranty Explorer: - Great dial also - A Rolex Sports model - safety lock clasp - Lumed second hand - Holds it value better - Would get a 6 month warranty from my dealer. I have included a photo so you can check them out on my wrist side by side. Thanks all! Attached Images

23 August 2018, 07:18 PM	#7
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Last edited by Watch Explorer; 23 August 2018 at 07:48 PM.. Reason: Double post (newbie) ;)

23 August 2018, 10:29 PM	#20
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Here are a couple more shots of the watches on my wrist. Cheers Attached Images

23 August 2018, 06:11 PM	#2
roosvelt Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: achille Location: Grosse Pointe Mi. Watch: 16613 serti 18078 Posts: 446	I say the OP. You can swim with confidence with it 100m is fine for swimming!!

23 August 2018, 07:01 PM	#3
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Thanks for your feedback. It would be nice to have a watch which is brand new for sure. Maybe at some point Rolex would make the Explorer a little smaller again (Like they did with the large date just) , then in the future I could get that one to go along with the OP if I get the OP now. The 39mm Explorer wears O.K on me but a little large for my personal preference.

23 August 2018, 07:02 PM	#4
iVAMP "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 52	If you like blue dial, I recommend the 116000. It is brand new (with the updated thicker hands), It has a 5 years warranty and a better brazelet.

23 August 2018, 07:10 PM	#5
Innocenti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: UK Posts: 832	I’ve been facing the same dilemma. I love the explorer - especially the earlier ones with the lugholes . However I’m leaning more towards the blue 116000 with a view to add explorer hands . That little blue dial is a work of art - and I would class it as a sports watch the same as the explorer

23 August 2018, 07:12 PM	#6
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Thanks iVAMP. I do really like the blue dial! Yes it would be a new model with the thicker hands, newer Rolex rehaut engraving etc.

23 August 2018, 07:29 PM	#8
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Cheers Innocenti. Yes the blue dial is amazing the way it plays with the light and I'm pretty sure I would be happy with it. I have seen someone in the forum modded his 116000 with the Explorer hands and it looks great! However I think I would keep mine all original though and maybe look to add an Explorer at some point in the future if Rolex introduced a new slightly smaller version. Yes the reason i prefer this particular OP over others is because of the more sporty aesthetic.

23 August 2018, 07:35 PM	#9
Innocenti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: UK Posts: 832	I have my fingers crossed they will also go back to 36mm on the explorer . Actually I’m hoping they reduce the size of a lot of the watches Love the explorer 2 - but for me too big The 39mm Explorer - too big A while back I bought my first Rolex . A birth year sub. I love it however there in no getting away from it being a rattly old watch! A couple of months later I bought a new 36mm Rolex . It is in a different class, the engineering and attention to crisp detail is a joy. For that reason I think the blue watch is a good choice

23 August 2018, 07:40 PM	#10
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Thanks again. Yeh all the old models fit me pretty great! That definitely helps a lot to know that the newer models are really worth it from your first hand experience. As I want to use it as a GADA, I think the modern upgrades would suit me more so at the moment i'm leaning towards the OP.

23 August 2018, 07:40 PM	#11
MattPegler "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United Kingdom Watch: 116000 Blue Dial Posts: 192	I'm biased as I have just purchased the 116000 with a blue dial, I would recommend it. The Explorer's dial isn't as special.

23 August 2018, 07:42 PM	#12
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Wow, looks great in your profile pic Matt! Like a glove! Do you use it as your daily wearer?

23 August 2018, 07:44 PM	#13
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Is the lume decent? Is it green or blue like the new explorer models?

23 August 2018, 08:06 PM	#16
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Nice one fskywalker! Seems you are all in favour of the new OP!

23 August 2018, 10:03 PM	#17
Explorer1nyc Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: nyc Posts: 34	Blue dial is my vote

23 August 2018, 10:05 PM	#18
Innocenti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: UK Posts: 832	Which one did you like best ?

23 August 2018, 10:21 PM	#19
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	When I first saw and tried on the Explorer my initial reaction was that it was considerably smaller than what I was used to with the IWC mark XVI which is 39mm. One reason I would like to trade is I would like a slightly smaller size going forward. If the Explorer had the updated case etc. I would probably go for that I reckon. But the OP felt really good and looks like a great fit IMO on my wrist in real life and in pics. My grandfather wore a Rolex and my father is somewhat of an Explorer of mountain ranges around the world since he has retired. I'm also drawn to the attached history of these pieces. The OP can hold its own in this regard right?

23 August 2018, 10:34 PM	#21
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	I prefer 114270

23 August 2018, 10:37 PM	#23
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Interesting to know fskywalker thanks!

24 August 2018, 07:03 PM	#25
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Yes that was my understanding also Innocenti. Do you know why I hear people say 'I bought the Explorer over the OP because of the history'? To my knowledge I thought the OP has a history thats very hard to beat!? Being the first waterproof and automatic wrist watch etc. Which model has the better history do you reckon? Cheers.

24 August 2018, 07:51 PM	#26
Innocenti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: UK Posts: 832	i Don’t know enough about them. Buy the one you like to look at the most ��

24 August 2018, 07:53 PM	#27
Coop13 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Watch: SBGW231, SRP777 Posts: 567	Wrist size?

24 August 2018, 07:59 PM	#28
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	6.5 inch wrist. Which one do you prefer?

25 August 2018, 05:27 PM	#29
Watch Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Watch: 114270 Posts: 462	Anymore input from people who are familiar with one or both models?

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