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rulessapt · 30 December 2008, 12:37 AM

I'd been watching this one on ebay Oz for a while

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&ih=001

Apart from the first time the auction concluded and the watch reappeared a few days later, the movement caliber does not match what is supposed to be in a #16710 GMT Master II.

The seller says he bought the watch new, how could it possibly have a #1570 movement. If I'm incorrect, then hey, bid away make it your own.

cheers
Richard

swissautopro · 30 December 2008, 01:10 AM

The whole listing is confusing. At the beginning, 1993 or 1994, not sure, bought it new in 1994. The last line: L series 1996. Also the coronet in the crystal - I don't think this was implemented until the late 90's to ~2000 or so. The photo is poor - one more reason not to trust it.

I wouldn't walk away from this...I would run!

Orchi · 30 December 2008, 01:11 AM

Err buddy Richard...welcome to this WatchOut forum...!

That's a BEST catch of the day...!

1. The movement pic is a product of...photoshop!...tm
2. The Dial/Hands/Bezel are FAKEs...!
3. So is the rest of the watch...!

4. Right down to the...box.

Hopes Lady Casper can be kinder...
to get eBay to ban the Seller - leslie_domotor of OZ.

rulessapt · 30 December 2008, 01:34 AM

Thanks swissautopro and Orchi,
I thought this one had the smell of old washed up fish, as I'm no expert though, figured best to ask first.

Shame, I'd really like a GMT, in Australia.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

tudorman8276 · 30 December 2008, 12:46 PM

...looks like eBay thought it was counterfeit also!

Stan.

30 December 2008, 01:10 AM	#2
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	The whole listing is confusing. At the beginning, 1993 or 1994, not sure, bought it new in 1994. The last line: L series 1996. Also the coronet in the crystal - I don't think this was implemented until the late 90's to ~2000 or so. The photo is poor - one more reason not to trust it. I wouldn't walk away from this...I would run! __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

30 December 2008, 12:46 PM	#5
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...ah yes... ...looks like eBay thought it was counterfeit also! Stan.

30 December 2008, 12:37 AM	#1
rulessapt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: richard Location: Tasmania Watch: u c Posts: 514	GMT Master II 16710 with 1570 movement...original ? I'd been watching this one on ebay Oz for a while http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&ih=001 Apart from the first time the auction concluded and the watch reappeared a few days later, the movement caliber does not match what is supposed to be in a #16710 GMT Master II. The seller says he bought the watch new, how could it possibly have a #1570 movement. If I'm incorrect, then hey, bid away make it your own. cheers Richard

30 December 2008, 01:11 AM	#3
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddy Richard...welcome to this WatchOut forum...! That's a BEST catch of the day...! 1. The movement pic is a product of...photoshop!...tm 2. The Dial/Hands/Bezel are FAKEs...! 3. So is the rest of the watch...! 4. Right down to the...box. Hopes Lady Casper can be kinder... to get eBay to ban the Seller - leslie_domotor of OZ.

30 December 2008, 01:34 AM	#4
rulessapt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: richard Location: Tasmania Watch: u c Posts: 514	Thanks swissautopro and Orchi, I thought this one had the smell of old washed up fish, as I'm no expert though, figured best to ask first. Shame, I'd really like a GMT, in Australia. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

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