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GBJIV · 29 December 2008, 07:10 PM

I think somebody told me the 233 wears a bit smaller than the 270 - Is that true? They are both 1950 case? Are they identical in size etc...?

Thanks,

walds11 · 29 December 2008, 08:46 PM

I think you are right Jackson. Pretty much the same specs. I think the 270 is thicker due to the automatic movement, thus it wears bigger.

argee1977 · 30 December 2008, 12:20 AM

270 is a smidgeon higher on the wrist, i'm not a fan of it against the 233 as the sub dial looks a bit more cluttered. The 233 really is the watch to get.

exchange83 · 30 December 2008, 02:21 AM

Agreed. Love the 233.

mdtddd2007 · 31 December 2008, 03:25 PM

Go for the 233...is less expensive and looks flat better on the wrist. If I was to get one I'll choose 233. Good luck...

brainbizz · 1 January 2009, 04:55 AM

Yes but no. It is slightly thicker but not detectable on the wrist. They wear the same.

usctrojan99 · 2 January 2009, 12:26 AM

I used to own the 233 and now a 270. I prefer the 270 as it is a bit thicker and like the dial beter. I notice the difference on the thickness between the two. Both are great pieces.

HKperf · 2 January 2009, 12:52 PM

owned them both..love the dial on the 270, but 233 would be my choice. the 270 is very top heavy and thick...2mm in the case but with its weight, much more so.
270 is an awesome looking watch and way less made than 233's.

GBJIV · 2 January 2009, 12:58 PM

John, now that end of year is over can we get together for lunch next week?

Let me know!

HKperf · 2 January 2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GBJIV

John, now that end of year is over can we get together for lunch next week?

Let me know!

sure anytime my friend~!!

brainbizz · 2 January 2009, 11:37 PM

I own them both and do not detect much difference when wearing. I would agree that the thickness difference is 1 to 2mm. I prefer the 233 due to simplicity, balance and larger numbers. To me the movement is a wash.

TswaneNguni · 2 January 2009, 11:57 PM

270 ~ "9",thicker,10 day auto

233 ~ Less expensive

The final answer to the 233 vs 270 debate is .....

......to buy a PAM 289 !!

brainbizz · 3 January 2009, 12:35 AM

Agree 289 has become a favorite but 233 and 270 or 289 hummmmm I could not decide so chose all three and 270 sits in the box.

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by brainbizz

Agree 289 has become a favorite but 233 and 270 or 289 hummmmm I could not decide so chose all three and 270 sits in the box.

OK,OK,no arguement about that ..... all three then !!!

GBJIV · 3 January 2009, 01:30 AM

I should have a chance to pass by the BH Boutique. Anybody want me to check on anything?

watchboy · 3 January 2009, 09:10 AM

270 all the way! There is no other brand that I know of has a power reserve of 10 days with automatic movement! That alone speaks for itself!

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by watchboy

270 all the way! There is no other brand that I know of has a power reserve of 10 days with automatic movement! That alone speaks for itself!

10 days auto .... true,very unusual and very practical !!

watchboy · 3 January 2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

10 days auto .... true,very unusual and very practical !!

However, there are some who said that the 10 days power reserve is not practical. But if they have more 5 or more watches than maybe it is practical.

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by watchboy

However, there are some who said that the 10 days power reserve is not practical. But if they have more 5 or more watches than maybe it is practical.

Pehaps if its your only PAM its not needed,but if you wear more tha two watches during the week,I cant think of any auto watch more practical.I would have a use for it.

sphereman · 3 January 2009, 06:18 PM

owned both.. 233 wins hands down.

233 - more balanced dial. wears very comfortably
270 - too thick for me, not quite comfortable on the wrist, small numbers on the dial

watchboy · 3 January 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Pehaps if its your only PAM its not needed,but if you wear more tha two watches during the week,I cant think of any auto watch more practical.I would have a use for it.

To some winding is like "caressing" your watch!

It is sure nice to fiddle with your watch daily. But I had 2 occasions that I actually forgot to wind them the previous day(as I wear auto) for often, so the time on both occasions stopped and I did not realize it.

After a few months down the road, I decided to sell them. They are not for me, even if it is 233,127,217 or even 203 or the vintage ones. Of course I would like to have the 203!

But for me, the ultimate Panerai is PAM270.

watchboy · 3 January 2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sphereman

owned both.. 233 wins hands down.

233 - more balanced dial. wears very comfortably
270 - too thick for me, not quite comfortable on the wrist, small numbers on the dial

Small numbers on the dial?

How much bigger is 233's numbers compared to 233's?

One might find that there are more scuffs or scratches on the bezel, where the crown guard is, on winding Panerai models be it 111 or 233. Cos when one when, usually the thumb will touch the bezel. Unless you are careful with it and wind it only with your index finger from the back.

As for auto watches, you adjust the hands and give it a few shake and just slap it on and good to rumble!

Again it depends on your lifestyle, if you are a fast paced worker like in NYC, perhaps you would prefer 270. But if you are a retiree or one who lives in a relaxed place and lifestyle, then you might prefer the 233 when you fiddle with it.

JMHO.

PS: Again, I would like to emphasize that there is no auto movts from other brands that is 10 days or more like the Panerai's 10 days PR.

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchboy

To some winding is like "caressing" your watch!

It is sure nice to fiddle with your watch daily. But I had 2 occasions that I actually forgot to wind them the previous day(as I wear auto) for often, so the time on both occasions stopped and I did not realize it.

After a few months down the road, I decided to sell them. They are not for me, even if it is 233,127,217 or even 203 or the vintage ones. Of course I would like to have the 203!

But for me, the ultimate Panerai is PAM270.

Ooooooo,I wont mind caressing a 21 or 203 !!

watchboy · 3 January 2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Ooooooo,I wont mind caressing a 21 or 203 !!

Me too!

But I think I would love caressing the notes after I sell them(If I have them).

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by watchboy

Me too!

But I think I would love caressing the notes after I sell them(If I have them).

"Notes" .. quite a few needed

Last "sales" ...

21 for $220k in the US
203 for $105k at auction in HK (Cheap considering previous pricing @ $140-150K)

brainbizz · 4 January 2009, 01:19 AM

The problem with the 270 dial is the numbers are underneath the curve of the crystal. That coupled with their smaller size leads to distortion which drives me nuts. I could care less about the movement 8 day manual or 10 day auto a wash IMHO. I have posted several side by side pics in several threads in which the search function will show. I own 233,270 and 289 so my opinion is non biased but an opinion nonetheless. My 270 sits in the box and has only been worn twice.

29 December 2008, 07:10 PM	#1
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	233 - 270 I think somebody told me the 233 wears a bit smaller than the 270 - Is that true? They are both 1950 case? Are they identical in size etc...? Thanks, __________________ Jackson

29 December 2008, 08:46 PM	#2
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	I think you are right Jackson. Pretty much the same specs. I think the 270 is thicker due to the automatic movement, thus it wears bigger. __________________ Adam

30 December 2008, 12:20 AM	#3
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	270 is a smidgeon higher on the wrist, i'm not a fan of it against the 233 as the sub dial looks a bit more cluttered. The 233 really is the watch to get. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

2 January 2009, 12:58 PM	#9
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	John, now that end of year is over can we get together for lunch next week? Let me know! __________________ Jackson

3 January 2009, 01:30 AM	#15
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	I should have a chance to pass by the BH Boutique. Anybody want me to check on anything? __________________ Jackson

30 December 2008, 02:21 AM	#4
exchange83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: New York Watch: Patek 5980r Posts: 489	Agreed. Love the 233.

31 December 2008, 03:25 PM	#5
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,785	Go for the 233...is less expensive and looks flat better on the wrist. If I was to get one I'll choose 233. Good luck...

1 January 2009, 04:55 AM	#6
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	Yes but no. It is slightly thicker but not detectable on the wrist. They wear the same.

2 January 2009, 12:26 AM	#7
usctrojan99 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: LA/OC - CA Watch: Rolex Posts: 233	I used to own the 233 and now a 270. I prefer the 270 as it is a bit thicker and like the dial beter. I notice the difference on the thickness between the two. Both are great pieces.

2 January 2009, 12:52 PM	#8
HKperf "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 16710 M Coke Posts: 367	owned them both..love the dial on the 270, but 233 would be my choice. the 270 is very top heavy and thick...2mm in the case but with its weight, much more so. 270 is an awesome looking watch and way less made than 233's.

2 January 2009, 11:37 PM	#11
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	I own them both and do not detect much difference when wearing. I would agree that the thickness difference is 1 to 2mm. I prefer the 233 due to simplicity, balance and larger numbers. To me the movement is a wash.

2 January 2009, 11:57 PM	#12
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	270 ~ "9",thicker,10 day auto 233 ~ Less expensive The final answer to the 233 vs 270 debate is ..... ......to buy a PAM 289 !!

3 January 2009, 12:35 AM	#13
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	Agree 289 has become a favorite but 233 and 270 or 289 hummmmm I could not decide so chose all three and 270 sits in the box.

3 January 2009, 09:10 AM	#16
watchboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Jacky Location: Watch World Posts: 244	270 all the way! There is no other brand that I know of has a power reserve of 10 days with automatic movement! That alone speaks for itself!

3 January 2009, 06:18 PM	#20
sphereman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 981	owned both.. 233 wins hands down. 233 - more balanced dial. wears very comfortably 270 - too thick for me, not quite comfortable on the wrist, small numbers on the dial __________________ 2023 Watch Collection Panerai: 249 California, 232, 390 Rolex: Starbucks Tudor: Blue Pelagos

4 January 2009, 01:19 AM	#26
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	The problem with the 270 dial is the numbers are underneath the curve of the crystal. That coupled with their smaller size leads to distortion which drives me nuts. I could care less about the movement 8 day manual or 10 day auto a wash IMHO. I have posted several side by side pics in several threads in which the search function will show. I own 233,270 and 289 so my opinion is non biased but an opinion nonetheless. My 270 sits in the box and has only been worn twice.

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