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Old 23 January 2019, 08:07 AM   #31
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Jeez, Shannon puts up a few nice pix of views from his hotel room and some turn it into a train wreck.

Why not leave it at 'nice pix Shannon' instead of a best city competition?
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Old 23 January 2019, 08:07 AM   #32
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It’s not that bad, Wes. Vancouver is also getting pretty bad. But agree, Vancouver is an amazing place.
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Old 23 January 2019, 08:08 AM   #33
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That’s why I have no desire to live anywhere near any large US city, mainly because of two things we are not aloud to discuss on this form but I did visit SF back in 08 and it was really nice!
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Old 23 January 2019, 08:23 AM   #34
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Jeez, Shannon puts up a few nice pix of views from his hotel room and some turn it into a train wreck.

Why not leave it at 'nice pix Shannon' instead of a best city competition?
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Old 23 January 2019, 08:35 AM   #35
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Beautiful city from the 46th floor day and night! Sadly I don’t have time to explore the city...but I will definitely set time aside next time I’m here to see the city!


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Old 23 January 2019, 08:48 AM   #36
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Beautiful city from the 46th floor day and night! Sadly I don’t have time to explore the city...but I will definitely set time aside next time I’m here to see the city!


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I thoroughly enjoyed Alcatraz, but that was the highlight of my visit to SF; otherwise, I was came away underwhelmed.
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Old 23 January 2019, 09:17 AM   #37
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It's pretty sad to see what SF has degraded into. I went there for the first time in the late 90s with my aunt and uncle, it was beautiful. Went back several times throughout the years. Most recently was a year ago, and I won't be making any trips back unless it's for work (unlikely). I don't feel safe there anymore, and I definitely don't feel safe taking my family there with no ability to protect ourselves. My 2 cents.
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Old 23 January 2019, 09:18 AM   #38
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I thoroughly enjoyed Alcatraz, but that was the highlight of my visit to SF; otherwise, I was came away underwhelmed.
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Old 23 January 2019, 10:02 AM   #39
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I spent A LOT of time in the city while at The University of California in the early to mid 90s. It was fine up to that point. I was there last in 2014, maybe, didn’t seem over the top horrendous. I wonder exactly when it got so bad. Also, I spent a few days in Vancouver back in 2011, and it was fine then too.
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Old 23 January 2019, 10:14 AM   #40
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Wow. I’m surprised at the “concern” and “safety” issues many have brought up. I was aware the city has degraded. Beautiful view though!


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Old 23 January 2019, 10:47 AM   #41
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The hoteliers in Union Square are losing their minds. Homeless go into the hotels to raid the housekeeping carts of soap, shampoo, TP, etc. Wander into the Tenderloin and you could find yourself in big trouble. That said, I found SF to be so unique, beautiful and cool. Stupid expensive. Valet at our hotel was $75 per night.
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Old 23 January 2019, 01:09 PM   #42
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Wow...when you mentioned Tenderloin I thought it was a steak house! Then I used google! Damn!


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Old 23 January 2019, 01:39 PM   #43
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I'm guessing the OP is staying at the Mandarin Oriental......
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Old 23 January 2019, 01:39 PM   #44
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I’ve been to San Francisco many times starting in the mid-‘60’s.

I cry for what’s happened there.


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Old 23 January 2019, 01:47 PM   #45
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Old 23 January 2019, 02:37 PM   #46
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I'm behind the times. Mandarin Oriental became the Loews Regency in 2015......

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sf...-hotel-to/amp/

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Old 23 January 2019, 02:57 PM   #47
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Best hotel in Sf enjoy, dont listen to the haters that have never been there
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Old 23 January 2019, 03:36 PM   #48
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Thread has turned into hate. We have our problems. But the bashing is somewhat offensive and I’m sure you would not want people bashing where you live. Hopefully London can turn things around. My wife and I know her personally and she can fix this.
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Old 23 January 2019, 04:22 PM   #49
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In San Francisco for the night...

The hotel views are amazing like I mentioned earlier. I can honestly say I’ve never seen such magnificent views likes this before! I’m not on the road constantly, but 8 to 12 times a year. My experience here was great and I hope to return soon! Laszlo, your city is beautiful! Had a great meal at Waterfront and look forward to a return visit! Every city has pros and cons...but the view is spectacular! Cheers!


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Old 23 January 2019, 10:03 PM   #50
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Its a beautiful city. I hope they get things straightened out. My wife and I honeymooned there 22 yrs ago and loved it.
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Old 23 January 2019, 11:43 PM   #51
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Thread has turned into hate. We have our problems. But the bashing is somewhat offensive and I’m sure you would not want people bashing where you live. Hopefully London can turn things around. My wife and I know her personally and she can fix this.
No hate. To the contrary, an amazing city. The homeless problem is real though and real bad. I saw it firsthand. I was surprised. Something must be done. I don't want to wander further into unacceptable discussion. And I lean left. Something must change.
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Old 23 January 2019, 11:55 PM   #52
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Thread has turned into hate. We have our problems. But the bashing is somewhat offensive and I’m sure you would not want people bashing where you live. Hopefully London can turn things around. My wife and I know her personally and she can fix this.

how can the truth be hate?

London is where i was born, we got out when we were kids in the 70s as the writing was on the wall back then, if you go back to where i was born, what i came from doesnt exist anymore.

Fast forward 40 years, and the work of the actual 'haters' is complete, the place is a **** hole, all caused by a particular political mindset.
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how can the truth be hate?

London is where i was born, we got out when we were kids in the 70s as the writing was on the wall back then, if you go back to where i was born, what i came from doesnt exist anymore.

Fast forward 40 years, and the work of the actual 'haters' is complete, the place is a **** hole, all caused by a particular political mindset.
London Breed is the mayor of San Francisco ...not London England
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Old 24 January 2019, 02:07 AM   #57
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if they want to turn it around, then tell them to do the opposite of whats caused the problem, dont expect more of the same, or the same by a different name to be the answer to the issues.

p.s i have never heard of this person, thought you meant london, it makes no difference though, london is like sf, caused by the same barstewards.
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No hate. To the contrary, an amazing city. The homeless problem is real though and real bad. I saw it firsthand. I was surprised. Something must be done. I don't want to wander further into unacceptable discussion. And I lean left. Something must change.
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Old 24 January 2019, 04:46 AM   #59
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Thread has turned into hate. We have our problems. But the bashing is somewhat offensive and I’m sure you would not want people bashing where you live. Hopefully London can turn things around. My wife and I know her personally and she can fix this.
Where is this comment coming from? You can bash where I live or go anytime any day, I don't mind.

I take everything with a grain of salt but in the end it's useful information. I always thought SF was this flourishing hotspot.
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