Earliest known 16710 GMT2 stick dials?

[purestrike]

Which series has the earliest known stick dials for the 16710? I have read that it is the "Y" series (2001-2002).

Curious to know if any of you have earlier examples (that are no replacement dials)


Thanks!

[watchaser]

I can’t remember for the life of me if K was before or after Y but going through some old photos, I had a K serial with a stick dial.

[037]

Roughly six years of production. Not all that rare and definitely not an error.

[purestrike]

Originally Posted by watchaser

I can’t remember for the life of me if K was before or after Y but going through some old photos, I had a K serial with a stick dial.

Wow thanks!

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-serial-numbers

K is just before Y, so you might be the holder of the oldest known stick dial!

Although there is a small chance that it might be a service dial though, unless you have had it all this while.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by purestrike

Which series has the earliest known stick dials for the 16710? I have read that it is the "Y" series (2001-2002).

Curious to know if any of you have earlier examples (that are no replacement dials)


Thanks!

The slight change to the font used was from around 2006/7 some call them stick or even mistake dials,and via the Internet these dials were made into something rare and exciting which IMHO they are not.As in the real world they are nothing more that a simple font change just like the hundreds of others over the Rolex years.

(Stick dial the GMT Master ll) in the other font (GMT Master II) Wow its a big deal is it not, I don't think.

[purestrike]

Yeah its all hype really. I attach exactly ZERO premium to it.

I am more concerned about stick dials being used as service dial for older 16710s like early 2000s.

Frankly, I would rather have a original II dial than a stick dial service dial.

So, say stick dials made their appearance in 2006 then a K or Y series 16710 (early 2000s) with a stick dial would almost certainly be a service dial. It a minor point but it would make the watch "period incorrect".

[037]

Dials are made in batches and stored underground in a secured building with parts picked by a robot. There's no way to know if and when a stick dial would have been pulled as a service part or originally during a build. A Luminova or Super Luminova dial should be original to the watch unless damaged in some way and a replacement was needed. There's just no way to know.

Since sticks spanned most of the Super Luminova production of 16710s, anything of that range with one would be period-correct. Any Super Luminova dial on a tritium model isn't technically period-correct so that's your threshold, really.

If there's zero premium put on a stick dial then you'll probably want to avoid them altogether for best results.

[Fabrice M]

To me the mystery has always been the “rectangle” dial. I believe the stick dial isn’t an error dial, but merely a transition dial toward the end of the 16710, however the more elusive “rectangular” dial might be the true error dial here. Especially the one with a 3186.

[purestrike]

Originally Posted by 037

Since sticks spanned most of the Super Luminova production of 16710s, anything of that range with one would be period-correct. Any Super Luminova dial on a tritium model isn't technically period-correct so that's your threshold, really.

Awesome, that clears up the period correctness bit. Thanks!