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WatchPeter · 30 May 2019, 04:20 AM

My 5 month Rolex OP 39 will not run unless I wind it at least 20 times. Is this normal?

enjoythemusic · 30 May 2019, 04:21 AM

Normal, and might need a small shake too.

Amg7861 · 30 May 2019, 04:23 AM

I believe the booklet on my milgauss says turn crown at least 30 times before the movement will kick in

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watchmaker · 30 May 2019, 04:25 AM

Very normal. Roughly 20 winds is half power, 40 winds for full power.

The automatic mechanism keeps the watch would, buy very few people move enough in a day to wind a watch from dead to full just by movement, hence the recommendation to wind it to get it going

MikeyV · 30 May 2019, 05:00 AM

Normal

AboutTime · 30 May 2019, 05:03 AM

That's consistent with my experience too. Funny, though, that I have a couple of old Omega watches that start running with just a touch of the crown.

sachit · 30 May 2019, 05:05 AM

Same here with my 116610LN which is 6-7 months old. No idea why is it that way.

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sachit · 30 May 2019, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchPeter

My 5 month Rolex OP 39 will not run unless I wind it at least 20 times. Is this normal?

What about power reserve ?

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Pacha · 30 May 2019, 05:11 AM

My 16660 is the same way, 20 to 30 winds and a small shake.

77T · 30 May 2019, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchPeter

My 5 month Rolex OP 39 will not run unless I wind it at least 20 times. Is this normal?

Do you mean every morning as you put it on?

If you had the watch fully wound up on Day 1...
then wore it all day with average activity at work or play...
and it previously was running each morning...
but just recently began to act this way...

Then you have one of two problems...

First is you may have been operating in “power reserve debt mode” recently. What this means is the activity level is insufficient to fully restore the power reserve. The solution is two-fold: become more active, or wind the OP as you put it down for the night.

Second is a possible problem in the perpetual auto-wind mechanism. Another two-fold solution: send it to RSC for warranty work, or live with it and wind the OP as you put it down for the night.

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Brew · 30 May 2019, 05:22 AM

I have an OP too. From stopped, 20 turns of the crown will usually get the seconds hand going. I wind for 20 more after that to get to a full wind (I think).

RJRJRJ · 30 May 2019, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AboutTime

That's consistent with my experience too. Funny, though, that I have a couple of old Omega watches that start running with just a touch of the crown.

That has been my experience with ETA movements as well. Rolex takes more turns to start for some reason.

justjay82 · 30 May 2019, 11:21 AM

Yes that’s normal to start a Rolex from dead

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zaydans · 30 May 2019, 11:53 AM

20 turns is nothing. Relax, there’s nothing wrong with it.

piratfisk · 30 May 2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AboutTime

That's consistent with my experience too. Funny, though, that I have a couple of old Omega watches that start running with just a touch of the crown.

My little SARB035 starts its [surprisingly lovely, for the price] second hand sweep just by sneezing at it. Seriously, it's been in my case for ~9mo and if you pick it up to look at it & the rotor moves once, it starts.

easterbunny · 30 May 2019, 01:18 PM

Consistent with my OP.

Fchernyak · 30 May 2019, 01:39 PM

Same with my subs. You’re good

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WatchPeter · 31 May 2019, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sachit

What about power reserve ?

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The Power Reserve should be 48 h. But it is probably a good idea to check that too.

WatchPeter · 31 May 2019, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Do you mean every morning as you put it on?

If you had the watch fully wound up on Day 1...
then wore it all day with average activity at work or play...
and it previously was running each morning...
but just recently began to act this way...

Then you have one of two problems...

First is you may have been operating in “power reserve debt mode” recently. What this means is the activity level is insufficient to fully restore the power reserve. The solution is two-fold: become more active, or wind the OP as you put it down for the night.

Second is a possible problem in the perpetual auto-wind mechanism. Another two-fold solution: send it to RSC for warranty work, or live with it and wind the OP as you put it down for the night.

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It shows this behaviour when it was resting for a while and out of power. I asked my dealer they said they have to sent it in for service. Meanwhile it is back. They changed parts but it still needs at least 18 wounds before it runs. So it works slightly better. Neither my AD nor the service center told me that this could be normal.

grymg · 1 June 2019, 01:57 AM

My moderns start up around the 12 turn mark but over the past year need an additional wind or two. Not sure if that means the movement is degrading or just breaking in.

sachit · 1 June 2019, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchPeter

It shows this behaviour when it was resting for a while and out of power. I asked my dealer they said they have to sent it in for service. Meanwhile it is back. They changed parts but it still needs at least 18 wounds before it runs. So it works slightly better. Neither my AD nor the service center told me that this could be normal.

Did you check the power reserve before and after service? How many hours you get on power reserve?

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30 May 2019, 04:20 AM	#1
WatchPeter "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 6	Brand new OP needs to be wound 20 times before it runs My 5 month Rolex OP 39 will not run unless I wind it at least 20 times. Is this normal?

30 May 2019, 04:21 AM	#2
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,164	Normal, and might need a small shake too. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

30 May 2019, 05:11 AM	#9
Pacha "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Pacha Location: ABQ Watch: 16660,16713,16570 Posts: 240	My 16660 is the same way, 20 to 30 winds and a small shake. __________________ Would the child I once was, be proud of the man I’ve become?

1 June 2019, 01:57 AM	#20
grymg "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 363	My moderns start up around the 12 turn mark but over the past year need an additional wind or two. Not sure if that means the movement is degrading or just breaking in. __________________ 114060, 116710BLNR, 116234WSJ, Omega 311.30 16710 N-serial "Coke" (SOLD)

30 May 2019, 04:23 AM	#3
Amg7861 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Al Location: UK Watch: YM Rhodium Dial 37 Posts: 573	I believe the booklet on my milgauss says turn crown at least 30 times before the movement will kick in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 May 2019, 04:25 AM	#4
watchmaker TechXpert Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: London Posts: 2,242	Very normal. Roughly 20 winds is half power, 40 winds for full power. The automatic mechanism keeps the watch would, buy very few people move enough in a day to wind a watch from dead to full just by movement, hence the recommendation to wind it to get it going

30 May 2019, 05:00 AM	#5
MikeyV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Mike Location: N. California Watch: DateJust 41 TT Posts: 549	Normal

30 May 2019, 05:03 AM	#6
AboutTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N California Posts: 909	That's consistent with my experience too. Funny, though, that I have a couple of old Omega watches that start running with just a touch of the crown.

30 May 2019, 05:05 AM	#7
sachit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: india Posts: 455	Same here with my 116610LN which is 6-7 months old. No idea why is it that way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 May 2019, 05:22 AM	#11
Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	I have an OP too. From stopped, 20 turns of the crown will usually get the seconds hand going. I wind for 20 more after that to get to a full wind (I think).

30 May 2019, 11:21 AM	#13
justjay82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,304	Yes that’s normal to start a Rolex from dead Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 May 2019, 11:53 AM	#14
zaydans "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Joe Location: CONUS Watch: Rolex 116710 Posts: 994	20 turns is nothing. Relax, there’s nothing wrong with it.

30 May 2019, 01:18 PM	#16
easterbunny "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: US Posts: 384	Consistent with my OP.

30 May 2019, 01:39 PM	#17
Fchernyak "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Franklin Location: Brooklyn Watch: Rolex Posts: 627	Same with my subs. You’re good Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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