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waythudjr · 25 July 2018, 12:40 PM

I am considering selling my 116010LN and buying a 116713... I have been getting a lot of push back on this idea. Initially it was just people not being too fond of two tones, which I get as they are not for everyone.

But now I am getting push back from an investment stand point, I am hearing that the 116713 will not hold its value over the long term like the 116010LN will... is this true?

All thoughts are welcome here, I know its ultimately up to me, but would any of you make this move? Would love to hear why or why not.

Thanks!!

kl07rph · 25 July 2018, 12:48 PM

You should buy what YOU want to wear; investment/resale value should only be an afterthought at best. If you really want a TT GMT, go for it!

Regarding two tones vs stainless steel, seems SS holds better value on the secondary market, at least in my short life here in this hobby (10 years).

I also think the Sub (preC or C) will tend to have better resale value over the GMTs. With that said, I did eventually trade from an M-serial 16610 to a GMT2C, but only because the GMT ticked many boxes off my wants (and it was the watch I originally wanted in 2008 lol). Although I don't ever regret owning the Sub, my learning point was to get what I want.

Largoshark · 25 July 2018, 12:48 PM

Will the TT retain its value as well as the SS version? No
Should that impact your decision? Absolutely Not

If you have any intentions of selling, then why consider making the trade at all? Do you truly love and want the watch or not? That should be the only question you're asking.

sholzer · 25 July 2018, 12:50 PM

do it!

Dompropat · 25 July 2018, 12:51 PM

The 116713 is awesome! If that's what you want then nothing else really matters.

WS9D · 25 July 2018, 12:53 PM

Buy what makes your eyes and heart happy, not other peoples thoughts or the prospect of value. This whole market could collapse from beneath us and value won't matter, but your eyes will still love to look down at it 20 times a day.

tbonesteak · 25 July 2018, 12:59 PM

If you want the 116713, get it. The value def won’t hold as well as a 116610, but I wear my watch bc I love it, not as a theoretical investment. Sure, I consider them a store of value, but no matter what, I need to love my watch(es).

fdm79 · 25 July 2018, 01:25 PM

I definitely would !

I NEVER buy my watches considering how much it holds the value ! I got a quite expensive Limited Edition Navitimer 01 a month ago. For what I paid for it, I could have gotten a GMT LN or Sub Date LN, Explorer II, etc (and even have saved some money). I even considered one of the 3 regarding the resale value but in the last moment, my heart made me go for the Navitimer 01 and I'm not regretting a bit ! And even more particularly when I remember that it won't hold even close of it's original price ! I simply don't give a s...... I'm very HAPPY with it !

If this makes you happy, don't think twice ! Plus, the Sub C LN is in my opinion the most common/traditional SS Rolex Sport's model so you can get one back quite easily.,

Another thought, IMO: One can hardly go wrong with any Rolex model !

joli160 · 25 July 2018, 05:50 PM

I'd do it in a heartbeat

Flex368 · 25 July 2018, 05:52 PM

I wouldn´t do the trade.

peterpl · 25 July 2018, 05:58 PM

Do it!! - if you like it you wont be happy buying something else or holding onto something you don't like.

For purchases like watches your number 1 factor should not be value retention. Buying something or holding onto it solely for that purpose is not going to make you happy - thats the truth.

Andad · 25 July 2018, 08:22 PM

One of the nicest models that Rolex makes.

116173.

sholzer · 25 July 2018, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

I'd do it in a heartbeat

I've never noticed that before.. are all the dates green? or every other like a roulette date wheel (but green and black)?

Colin10101 · 25 July 2018, 09:45 PM

Yes it’s true, but I’d make that trade anyways. Gold is nice!

RoyalOac · 25 July 2018, 09:47 PM

I wouldnt do the trade but I would add to the collection if i were you. As much as I’ve reduced my collection to become a one watch guy with the TT Sub ‘Bluesy’, I kept the LVc sub for less flash when it came time to fly a bit under the radar. The 116713 is still a loud watch, and an absolutely beautiful TT watch, but if you prefer it over the Sub and lost touch, the definitely do the trade!

mrblue · 25 July 2018, 09:55 PM

Actually the prices of all TT have been increasing on the secondary market for some time now. Many on this forum don't like TT but that should not affect your choice. What's wrong with a little splash of gold?

RoyalOac · 25 July 2018, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrblue

Actually the prices of all TT have been increasing on the secondary market for some time now. Many on this forum don't like TT but that should not affect your choice. What's wrong with a little splash of gold?

It’s true. TT is beautiful, and my Bluesy is my daily wearer. TT is so much more popular outside the US... kind of like soccer!, mmm maybe not THAT popular

waythudjr · 25 July 2018, 10:07 PM

WOW, thank you all for the responses, this is my fist post here, you guys are awesome! I am still very torn, will update you all with a decision in the near future.

brandrea · 25 July 2018, 10:17 PM

Go with your heart on this one. I wouldn't be concerned at all with future values etc.

joli160 · 25 July 2018, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholzer

I've never noticed that before.. are all the dates green? or every other like a roulette date wheel (but green and black)?

That's a small mod, the green date comes on the full gold model

watchwatcher · 25 July 2018, 11:06 PM

The 713 certainly has some sizzle to it, so if that's what makes you happy, go for it...there are no "right" answers.

Personally, I would rather have a CHNR for a two tone GMT...have you looked at that?

RickB8960 · 25 July 2018, 11:27 PM

DO IT! You're thinking about it for a reason. The sub is boring and if it's your only watch you're bound to want something else. You will have absolutely no problem getting back into the sub if you want to. I just sold my first watch on here and it was easy. You just have to provide a lot of info. so people can easily see who you are and with that you'll never have a lot of trouble getting into and out of watches when you want.

Duke of Dulwich · 26 July 2018, 08:38 AM

This is my favourite TT Rolex and I am of course biased because I own one. Do what the heart desires and not what others advise. Good luck with your decision.

kingSubTT · 26 July 2018, 10:03 AM

10 years ago I posted a thread (SubC or Sub TT). As expected everyone said SubC. I decided with SubTT anyways. I was able to get my money back on a trade up to Smurf.

hambone1983 · 26 July 2018, 10:16 AM

I have a 16713, so put me down as biased. IMO, PCLs are more eye-catching than YG center links, so I don't find it very blingy. But black & gold is such great combo, just a super attractive piece.

waythudjr · 27 July 2018, 09:18 AM

I have decided to keep my SS sub for the time being as I came across this beautiful photo by role driver and fell in love all over again. I think the right move for me is to start saving for a bluesy, that’s the ultimate dynamic duo imo.

Here is the pic, awesome ig account! https://www.instagram.com/p/BlquLAxh...=1m0cl66ddhb5o

waythudjr · 12 July 2019, 11:12 PM

The urge is back, and im going to pull the trigger on a tt gmt! WML!

doramas · 12 July 2019, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

I'd do it in a heartbeat

Too much Photoshop

peterpl · 12 July 2019, 11:22 PM

I would do that in a heartbeat. If you want it do it now. As you know its discontinued now so will be harder and harder to get the longer you wait.

The SS is plain and simple looking - very boring. Get the TT GMT. Looks HEAPS better imho.

25 July 2018, 12:40 PM	#1
waythudjr "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 16	Am I crazy? 116010 -->116713!? Help... I am considering selling my 116010LN and buying a 116713... I have been getting a lot of push back on this idea. Initially it was just people not being too fond of two tones, which I get as they are not for everyone. But now I am getting push back from an investment stand point, I am hearing that the 116713 will not hold its value over the long term like the 116010LN will... is this true? All thoughts are welcome here, I know its ultimately up to me, but would any of you make this move? Would love to hear why or why not. Thanks!!

25 July 2018, 12:50 PM	#4
sholzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 158	do it! __________________ Stephen Current: 114060 \| 116710BLNR

25 July 2018, 01:25 PM	#8
fdm79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 931	I definitely would ! I NEVER buy my watches considering how much it holds the value ! I got a quite expensive Limited Edition Navitimer 01 a month ago. For what I paid for it, I could have gotten a GMT LN or Sub Date LN, Explorer II, etc (and even have saved some money). I even considered one of the 3 regarding the resale value but in the last moment, my heart made me go for the Navitimer 01 and I'm not regretting a bit ! And even more particularly when I remember that it won't hold even close of it's original price ! I simply don't give a s...... I'm very HAPPY with it ! If this makes you happy, don't think twice ! Plus, the Sub C LN is in my opinion the most common/traditional SS Rolex Sport's model so you can get one back quite easily., Another thought, IMO: One can hardly go wrong with any Rolex model ! __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 126710 BLRO - Rolex Submariner 116610 LV - Breitling Navitimer 01 Pan-American Bronze Limited Edition AB0121C4/Q605-447A - Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional 3861 (Sapphire) 310.30.42.50.01.002 - Omega Seamaster Diver 300M 41mm Ceramic (Blue) 212.30.41.20.03.001

25 July 2018, 05:50 PM	#9
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,757	I'd do it in a heartbeat Attached Images __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

25 July 2018, 08:22 PM	#12
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,527	One of the nicest models that Rolex makes. 116173. __________________ E

25 July 2018, 12:48 PM	#2
kl07rph "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Chicago Posts: 53	You should buy what YOU want to wear; investment/resale value should only be an afterthought at best. If you really want a TT GMT, go for it! Regarding two tones vs stainless steel, seems SS holds better value on the secondary market, at least in my short life here in this hobby (10 years). I also think the Sub (preC or C) will tend to have better resale value over the GMTs. With that said, I did eventually trade from an M-serial 16610 to a GMT2C, but only because the GMT ticked many boxes off my wants (and it was the watch I originally wanted in 2008 lol). Although I don't ever regret owning the Sub, my learning point was to get what I want.

25 July 2018, 12:48 PM	#3
Largoshark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Mike Location: New England Posts: 1,754	Will the TT retain its value as well as the SS version? No Should that impact your decision? Absolutely Not If you have any intentions of selling, then why consider making the trade at all? Do you truly love and want the watch or not? That should be the only question you're asking.

25 July 2018, 12:51 PM	#5
Dompropat "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CT Watch: Sub Posts: 357	The 116713 is awesome! If that's what you want then nothing else really matters.

25 July 2018, 12:53 PM	#6
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,415	Buy what makes your eyes and heart happy, not other peoples thoughts or the prospect of value. This whole market could collapse from beneath us and value won't matter, but your eyes will still love to look down at it 20 times a day.

25 July 2018, 12:59 PM	#7
tbonesteak "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: New York Watch: me go broke! Posts: 1,657	If you want the 116713, get it. The value def won’t hold as well as a 116610, but I wear my watch bc I love it, not as a theoretical investment. Sure, I consider them a store of value, but no matter what, I need to love my watch(es).

25 July 2018, 05:52 PM	#10
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 3,057	I wouldn´t do the trade.

25 July 2018, 05:58 PM	#11
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	Do it!! - if you like it you wont be happy buying something else or holding onto something you don't like. For purchases like watches your number 1 factor should not be value retention. Buying something or holding onto it solely for that purpose is not going to make you happy - thats the truth.

25 July 2018, 09:45 PM	#14
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	Yes it’s true, but I’d make that trade anyways. Gold is nice! __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

25 July 2018, 09:47 PM	#15
RoyalOac "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Posts: 458	I wouldnt do the trade but I would add to the collection if i were you. As much as I’ve reduced my collection to become a one watch guy with the TT Sub ‘Bluesy’, I kept the LVc sub for less flash when it came time to fly a bit under the radar. The 116713 is still a loud watch, and an absolutely beautiful TT watch, but if you prefer it over the Sub and lost touch, the definitely do the trade! __________________ Rolex Daytona 116500LN Rolex GMT Master II 126710 BLRO Rolex Submariner 116610 LV Rolex Submariner 126613 LB Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15300ST

25 July 2018, 09:55 PM	#16
mrblue "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Connecticut Posts: 156	Actually the prices of all TT have been increasing on the secondary market for some time now. Many on this forum don't like TT but that should not affect your choice. What's wrong with a little splash of gold?

25 July 2018, 10:07 PM	#18
waythudjr "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 16	WOW, thank you all for the responses, this is my fist post here, you guys are awesome! I am still very torn, will update you all with a decision in the near future.

25 July 2018, 10:17 PM	#19
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,076	Go with your heart on this one. I wouldn't be concerned at all with future values etc.

25 July 2018, 11:06 PM	#21
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,044	The 713 certainly has some sizzle to it, so if that's what makes you happy, go for it...there are no "right" answers. Personally, I would rather have a CHNR for a two tone GMT...have you looked at that?

25 July 2018, 11:27 PM	#22
RickB8960 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Rick Location: Maryland Watch: 126618/DJ41/BLNR.. Posts: 91	DO IT! You're thinking about it for a reason. The sub is boring and if it's your only watch you're bound to want something else. You will have absolutely no problem getting back into the sub if you want to. I just sold my first watch on here and it was easy. You just have to provide a lot of info. so people can easily see who you are and with that you'll never have a lot of trouble getting into and out of watches when you want.

26 July 2018, 08:38 AM	#23
Duke of Dulwich "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: UK Watch: GMT Master 116713 Posts: 335	This is my favourite TT Rolex and I am of course biased because I own one. Do what the heart desires and not what others advise. Good luck with your decision.

26 July 2018, 10:03 AM	#24
kingSubTT "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Watch: SmurfDaytonaBLNR Posts: 682	10 years ago I posted a thread (SubC or Sub TT). As expected everyone said SubC. I decided with SubTT anyways. I was able to get my money back on a trade up to Smurf. __________________ White Daytona 116520, Sub 116619LB, GMT II BLNR

26 July 2018, 10:16 AM	#25
hambone1983 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Rick Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,302	I have a 16713, so put me down as biased. IMO, PCLs are more eye-catching than YG center links, so I don't find it very blingy. But black & gold is such great combo, just a super attractive piece.

27 July 2018, 09:18 AM	#26
waythudjr "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 16	I have decided to keep my SS sub for the time being as I came across this beautiful photo by role driver and fell in love all over again. I think the right move for me is to start saving for a bluesy, that’s the ultimate dynamic duo imo. Here is the pic, awesome ig account! https://www.instagram.com/p/BlquLAxh...=1m0cl66ddhb5o

12 July 2019, 11:12 PM	#27
waythudjr "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NYC Posts: 16	The urge is back, and im going to pull the trigger on a tt gmt! WML!

12 July 2019, 11:22 PM	#29
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	I would do that in a heartbeat. If you want it do it now. As you know its discontinued now so will be harder and harder to get the longer you wait. The SS is plain and simple looking - very boring. Get the TT GMT. Looks HEAPS better imho.

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