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ghostkilah · 20 January 2016, 08:40 AM

Hi all,
I hope you are doing well. I recently purchased a used Rolex Day-Date. I was told it is a collectors edition. It seems legit, but there is no 18k stamp on the back of it. Attached are pictures of the watch. I still have the opportunity to return it. So, I would like to review the opinions of the TRF community. Thank you in advance for your time!
P.S. The bracelet is stainless steel and I am in the process of purchasing a new 18k bracelet.

TimeToWatch · 20 January 2016, 10:05 AM

Fake

ghostkilah · 20 January 2016, 10:06 AM

Thank you for your reply! I'll send it back. Also how could you tell?

Lordofrolex · 20 January 2016, 10:11 AM

Fake for sure. It would never come with a SS bracelet thats gold plated. Not even sure what a collectors edition means. So the guy that sold you it is just saying stuff. Return it. Don't buy a gold bracelet don't waste your money. Buy an authentic DD and it will come with the right bracelet.

Hpozzuoli · 20 January 2016, 10:15 AM

You could also stop at any mall jeweler and they can test the diamonds with that stick beeper light flashing thing. I doubt they would go thru the trouble of getting a real diamond bezel if the watch is fake.

On the watch itself I am not sure what is actually off on it to make that call.

ghostkilah · 20 January 2016, 10:15 AM

Okay thank you very much for your help! It is very appreciated. I will contact him now and return it.

HogwldFLTR · 20 January 2016, 01:37 PM

Looks like an 1803 with the incorrect bracelet. Not so sure the head is a fake. Likely aftermarket bezel and dial as well. Here's mine.

GradyPhilpott · 20 January 2016, 02:11 PM

I agree that the head needs a bit closer look.

crowncollection · 20 January 2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostkilah

Hi all,

I hope you are doing well. I recently purchased a used Rolex Day-Date. I was told it is a collectors edition. It seems legit, but there is no 18k stamp on the back of it. Attached are pictures of the watch. I still have the opportunity to return it. So, I would like to review the opinions of the TRF community. Thank you in advance for your time!

P.S. The bracelet is stainless steel and I am in the process of purchasing a new 18k bracelet.

It's not totally fake so it depends on price and how the watch was described. The head looks original, as in the case itself but overpolished. The dial is a pan pie non quickset dial with aftermarket added diamonds, so it's no longer classed as original. The band is total rubbish if steel. I hope this helps.

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jvmartin · 20 January 2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

It's not totally fake so it depends on price and how the watch was described. The head looks original, as in the case itself but overpolished. The dial is a pan pie non quickset dial with aftermarket added diamonds, so it's no longer classed as original. The band is total rubbish if steel. I hope this helps.

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What he said... this is a heavily customized watch but it looks to be an 1803... aftermarket dial/bezel... The steel bracelet is worthless... not sure if the seller disclosed these aftermarket add ons but it can be saved with an original dial, bezel, and bracelet.

ghostkilah · 20 January 2016, 10:39 PM

Thank you all for your help! He stated that the watch itself was 18k gold and I had purchased it for a little under 15k. After I made the purchase and confronted him about the bracelet, he told me that the watch is the most important part and that if I wanted to get an 18k bracelet, it would range around an additional 3k-4k.

goldfixer21 · 21 January 2016, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ghostkilah

Thank you all for your help! He stated that the watch itself was 18k gold and I had purchased it for a little under 15k. After I made the purchase and confronted him about the bracelet, he told me that the watch is the most important part and that if I wanted to get an 18k bracelet, it would range around an additional 3k-4k.

$15K for just the head? That's crazy, you can buy a pre-owned DD quickset with a genuine band for less than that.

UNLVino · 21 January 2016, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by goldfixer21

$15K for just the head? That's crazy, you can buy a pre-owned DD quickset with a genuine band for less than that.

Based on my limited time here I'd say $6k or less for that watch - but based on price OP paid -WAY too many nicer ones to choose from.

The old research after purchase curse

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 21 January 2016, 03:48 AM

I second above case good dial and bezel added on

jvmartin · 21 January 2016, 05:53 AM

$15k!? Don't expect him to give that money back without a fight... he EASILY doubled his money on the deal... at least!

Lordofrolex · 21 January 2016, 06:23 AM

I got my DD 118238 for 15.5k and that has all the bells and whistles with the proper bracelet.

big daddy rooster · 25 July 2019, 01:41 AM

you messed up boy

BisonHead · 25 July 2019, 02:03 AM

Please let us know how you get on with the refund. Plenty of great watches out there to be sure.

thesharkfactor · 25 July 2019, 07:29 AM

3.5 year old thread, guy is long gone......................

vintagetudor · 25 July 2019, 07:39 PM

A fool and his money are easily parted

Knappo 1307 · 25 July 2019, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

3.5 year old thread, guy is long gone......................

Along with his 15k......

20 January 2016, 10:11 AM	#4
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	Fake for sure. It would never come with a SS bracelet thats gold plated. Not even sure what a collectors edition means. So the guy that sold you it is just saying stuff. Return it. Don't buy a gold bracelet don't waste your money. Buy an authentic DD and it will come with the right bracelet. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

20 January 2016, 01:37 PM	#7
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,674	Looks like an 1803 with the incorrect bracelet. Not so sure the head is a fake. Likely aftermarket bezel and dial as well. Here's mine. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

20 January 2016, 02:11 PM	#8
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,454	I agree that the head needs a bit closer look. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

21 January 2016, 03:48 AM	#14
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	I second above case good dial and bezel added on __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

21 January 2016, 06:23 AM	#16
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	I got my DD 118238 for 15.5k and that has all the bells and whistles with the proper bracelet. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

20 January 2016, 10:05 AM	#2
TimeToWatch Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: TRF Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 1,757	Fake

20 January 2016, 10:06 AM	#3
ghostkilah "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 4	Thank you for your reply! I'll send it back. Also how could you tell?

20 January 2016, 10:15 AM	#5
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	You could also stop at any mall jeweler and they can test the diamonds with that stick beeper light flashing thing. I doubt they would go thru the trouble of getting a real diamond bezel if the watch is fake. On the watch itself I am not sure what is actually off on it to make that call.

20 January 2016, 10:39 PM	#11
ghostkilah "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 4	Thank you all for your help! He stated that the watch itself was 18k gold and I had purchased it for a little under 15k. After I made the purchase and confronted him about the bracelet, he told me that the watch is the most important part and that if I wanted to get an 18k bracelet, it would range around an additional 3k-4k.

21 January 2016, 05:53 AM	#15
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	$15k!? Don't expect him to give that money back without a fight... he EASILY doubled his money on the deal... at least!

25 July 2019, 01:41 AM	#17
big daddy rooster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Rooster Location: Liverpool Watch: Datejust Posts: 12	you messed up boy

25 July 2019, 02:03 AM	#18
BisonHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Watch: Sub,SD,DJ,OP Posts: 1,950	Please let us know how you get on with the refund. Plenty of great watches out there to be sure.

25 July 2019, 07:29 AM	#19
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,641	3.5 year old thread, guy is long gone......................

25 July 2019, 07:39 PM	#20
vintagetudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: united kingdom Posts: 123	A fool and his money are easily parted

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