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Chozn1 · 13 February 2009, 09:15 AM

LINK

Clock on the bids and notice the bidding pattern. 2 accounts seem to be driving the price up, one of them without even needing to to be the high bidder, and both accounts have a high percentage of bids with the seller. Shame, shame.

stevemulholland3 · 13 February 2009, 09:31 AM

there are so many shill bidders on ebay...it makes me sick sometimes..

Chozn1 · 13 February 2009, 10:27 AM

Yeah, well it's really making me sick cuz I wanna buy the watch, haha.

jeff hess · 13 February 2009, 10:31 AM

My belief is, even though this is not mentioned as the cause, that the reason ebay is going away from the auction format is the shill bidding issue.

We have tried experiments on a few items in the past few years.

We subscribe to terapeak, a service that gives the average selling price for certain items. The problem is that one rarely achieves the higher levels therin.

We see sellers getting big dollars on certain items...double what we get...so we have experimented by putting up the same item with the same descrition in the same category but FEATURING this item and we most often get less.

And from a sellers standpoint, you cannot win. People accuse you of shilling routinely.
Daily.

We always point out the jewelry or silver items that "more than occasionally" bring less than scrap to prove we do not.

I think Steve is right. It is everywhere.

Sad.

tudorman8276 · 13 February 2009, 01:25 PM

...I can imagine MYSELF also waering that watch!!

Stan.

Terry Newton · 13 February 2009, 03:39 PM

Nice watch. Looks like mine. This seller has good taste.

Terry Newton

13 February 2009, 09:15 AM	#1
Chozn1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South GA Watch: Sub and President Posts: 1,501	Some odd bidding on Ebay LINK Clock on the bids and notice the bidding pattern. 2 accounts seem to be driving the price up, one of them without even needing to to be the high bidder, and both accounts have a high percentage of bids with the seller. Shame, shame. __________________ Current Models... (K)Bluesy (M) TT DJ In search of DayDate Prior models... Just about everything.

13 February 2009, 10:27 AM	#3
Chozn1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South GA Watch: Sub and President Posts: 1,501	Yeah, well it's really making me sick cuz I wanna buy the watch, haha. __________________ Current Models... (K)Bluesy (M) TT DJ In search of DayDate Prior models... Just about everything.

13 February 2009, 01:25 PM	#5
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...NICE watch... ...I can imagine MYSELF also waering that watch!! Stan.

13 February 2009, 03:39 PM	#6
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Nice watch. Looks like mine. This seller has good taste. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

13 February 2009, 09:31 AM	#2
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	there are so many shill bidders on ebay...it makes me sick sometimes..

13 February 2009, 10:31 AM	#4
jeff hess "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jeffrey P Hess Location: florida Watch: Patek and Ball Posts: 516	My belief is, even though this is not mentioned as the cause, that the reason ebay is going away from the auction format is the shill bidding issue. We have tried experiments on a few items in the past few years. We subscribe to terapeak, a service that gives the average selling price for certain items. The problem is that one rarely achieves the higher levels therin. We see sellers getting big dollars on certain items...double what we get...so we have experimented by putting up the same item with the same descrition in the same category but FEATURING this item and we most often get less. And from a sellers standpoint, you cannot win. People accuse you of shilling routinely. Daily. We always point out the jewelry or silver items that "more than occasionally" bring less than scrap to prove we do not. I think Steve is right. It is everywhere. Sad.

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