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kilyung · 14 February 2018, 02:50 AM

If a SS Pepsi ever did happen, it would be changed enough to differentiate it from the WG model. A red/blue color update doesn’t seem sufficient. Maybe if you combined it with a case and movement change but then why not also change the other YG and SS models? So I’m betting on WG Coke replacement.

duc888 · 14 February 2018, 03:45 AM

Hmm...very strange...I asked three AD in Germany and no one heard of it....and we´re so close to Switzerland

vipereaper30 · 14 February 2018, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

If a SS Pepsi ever did happen, it would be changed enough to differentiate it from the WG model. A red/blue color update doesn’t seem sufficient. Maybe if you combined it with a case and movement change but then why not also change the other YG and SS models? So I’m betting on WG Coke replacement.

I agree with the amount of differentiation but maybe we're kidding ourselves as BLRO owners?

I myself am hoping this coke comes in platinum instead of WG so I can get more differentiation in my collection!

iznoguud · 14 February 2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by duc888

Hmm...very strange...I asked three AD in Germany and no one heard of it....and we´re so close to Switzerland

Apparently only the US based AD's, and not sure if the UK's ones, are indicating that the WG Pepsi was discontinued...

Since there's no regional discontinuity, it's either an hoax to try to sell some more dusty watches or, for some reason, they're getting privileged inputs from Rolex or people at Rolex which is odd since in Europe I do presume that people also have connections to Rolex or people from Rolex!

At Basel We'll know for sure...

JacksonStone · 14 February 2018, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by iznoguud

Since there's no regional discontinuity, it's either an hoax to try to sell some more dusty watches...

If it's a hoax, it's a damn good one, since it involves ADs all over the country. I agree, regional discontinuity wouldn't work, since it would only fuel grey market sales of the model in the US.

ArtNouveau · 14 February 2018, 04:51 AM

The smaller market dealer I visited last week mentioned that the BLRO is discontinued per his rep. He offered this up during our conversation, I did not ask the question.

Jeffreyc87 · 14 February 2018, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thomaswentworth

That would be cool, but I think Rolex wants the most scratch resistant materials for bezel inserts and crystals so their watches don't look all beat up.

I am not an expert but I think Blancpain use a separate sapphire crystal over their bezels?

I wonder if Rolex ever considered that.

It would solve the bi-color bezel issues because they still could be made in colorful aluminum but then protected by the sapphire bezel crystal?

I remember tennis rackets...all that was available was wood....then steel...then aluminum.....the graphite was the huge expensive innovations...then boron......and on and on.

Is there another material besides ceramic that could be used?

Always wondering!

JacksonStone · 14 February 2018, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

I am not an expert but I think Blancpain use a separate sapphire crystal over their bezels?

I wonder if Rolex ever considered that.

Blancpain uses sapphire for its Fifty Fathoms bezel insert; the Bathyscaphe has a ceramic/Liquimetal insert. I agree that if Rolex ever wanted to do a modern throwback to its bakelite inserts, sapphire would be the best material. I would be very interested to see what that would look like, but with a new SD last year in ceramic, I don't hold out hope we'll see it anytime soon.

Jeffreyc87 · 14 February 2018, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Blancpain uses sapphire for its Fifty Fathoms bezel insert; the Bathyscaphe has a ceramic/Liquimetal insert. I agree that if Rolex ever wanted to do a modern throwback to its bakelite inserts, sapphire would be the best material. I would be very interested to see what that would look like, but with a new SD last year in ceramic, I don't hold out hope we'll see it anytime soon.

Thanks.

I thought the sapphire insert was actually black aluminum covered by sapphire which would allow for all of the original pepsi reds and blues to once again be made in aluminum but then covered over by the sapphire?

JacksonStone · 14 February 2018, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

Thanks.

I thought the sapphire insert was actually black aluminum covered by sapphire which would allow for all of the original pepsi reds and blues to once again be made in aluminum but then covered over by the sapphire?

I don't know what material they use under the sapphire, but whatever it is has a fully lumed number scale. It looks great. It would also allow for vibrant colors, as evidenced by the previous generation of IWC Aquatimers.

JacksonStone · 14 February 2018, 05:14 AM

Some lume shots from the interwebs.

IWC Aquatimer:

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms:

Jeffreyc87 · 14 February 2018, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I don't know what material they use under the sapphire, but whatever it is has a fully lumed number scale. It looks great. It would also allow for vibrant colors, as evidenced by the previous generation of IWC Aquatimers.

Wow. Talk about the possibilities of true red and true blue.....let alone anything else.

Maybe someday (or maybe Rolex will improve their ceramic colors).

Wahlberg · 14 February 2018, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

He's also offered me a PM Daytona & a TT Bluesy as investments too - at this point, hopefully he is starting to realize I'm not an idiot.

Are there people out there who believe this? Talk about being gullible.

JacksonStone · 14 February 2018, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

Wow. Talk about the possibilities of true red and true blue.....let alone anything else.

I agree. I think a bakelite throwback in sapphire with full lume and vibrant colors would be a runaway success. But it is also would be a radical shift from ceramic after a relatively short period. As we know, Rolex doesn't do radical.

Raza_actual · 14 February 2018, 06:58 AM

A titanium Coke bezel would be really interesting, actually. Doubt that will happen though.

Switch · 14 February 2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I agree. I think a bakelite throwback in sapphire with full lume and vibrant colors would be a runaway success. But it is also would be a radical shift from ceramic after a relatively short period. As we know, Rolex doesn't do radical.

The oysterquartz could be considered radical depending on who you ask

wesleyvs · 17 February 2018, 12:24 AM

Well ... for what it's worth, i asked an AD (eu) and he contacted the sales department of Rolex and they stated its going to be continued but has a long delivery time. And the plot thickens ... :P

Cheers
(this is not made up btw)

iznoguud · 17 February 2018, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wesleyvs

Well ... for what it's worth, i asked an AD (eu) and he contacted the sales department of Rolex and they stated its going to be continued but has a long delivery time. And the plot thickens ... :P

Cheers
(this is not made up btw)

Well a confirmation by Rolex, through an AD, is more than enough for me to drop it all as rumourmongering.

Thanks wesleyvs.

Ci54 · 17 February 2018, 12:43 AM

Saw these 2 last night and the dealer told us the BLRO is not discontinued..

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

tomchicago · 17 February 2018, 02:43 AM

Not surprised. It was a terrible release.

Wing-Co · 17 February 2018, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wesleyvs

Well ... for what it's worth, i asked an AD (eu) and he contacted the sales department of Rolex and they stated its going to be continued but has a long delivery time. And the plot thickens ... :P

Cheers
(this is not made up btw)

I'm waiting on the NL AD getting me one, so this confirms your info.

JacksonStone · 17 February 2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by iznoguud

Well a confirmation by Rolex, through an AD, is more than enough for me to drop it all as rumourmongering.

We've seen multiple reports of confirmation from Rolex through ADs confirming the discontinuation. Why would you accept one alleged report and dismiss countless others, some of which were public? I'm not convinced we have sufficient information to discredit the reports we have received so far.

JLM3 · 17 February 2018, 07:07 AM

You need a new AD if he told you it was not !!! hehe

wesleyvs · 17 February 2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

We've seen multiple reports of confirmation from Rolex through ADs confirming the discontinuation. Why would you accept one alleged report and dismiss countless others, some of which were public? I'll grant that the plot may have thickened, but I'm not convinced we have sufficient information to outweigh the reports we have received so far.

I Think some AD's just don't really 100% know and don't know that what they say will be regarded as a confirmation wether its discontinued or continued by us.
Think we will just have to wait till Basel or when some kind of real proof will be showed like the mail Patek sends to their dealers with discontinued models.

What i think is that it could be true but it would be a waist of the R&D they put in to get that blue/red bezel finally made after all those years, so.... Why not make a YG Pepsi ? With the baguette bezel versions the YG sold well compared to the WG one.

jfmiii · 17 February 2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffreyc87

Maybe someday (or maybe Rolex will improve their ceramic colors).

tbh, i think id rather have a 6542 inspired, sapphire bezel over a perfect red ceramic bezel.

just brush the entire gd watch (and bracelet) this time!!!

kilyung · 17 February 2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wesleyvs

Why not make a YG Pepsi ? With the baguette bezel versions the YG sold well compared to the WG one.

[shudder] That's one gold model I wouldn't buy.

JacksonStone · 17 February 2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wesleyvs

I Think some AD's just don't really 100% know.

You're probably right that some don't know 100%. I would say the ones who were told by their reps to update their catalogs, cancel all existing BLRO orders, and refund deposits on those orders, can reasonably be said to know with certainty the discontinuation is real.

wesleyvs · 17 February 2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

[shudder] That's one gold model I wouldn't buy.

I think it would’nt look that bad..
The pepsi baguette is sort of nice too without the diamonds in the lugs.

iznoguud · 17 February 2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

We've seen multiple reports of confirmation from Rolex through ADs confirming the discontinuation. Why would you accept one alleged report and dismiss countless others, some of which were public? I'm not convinced we have sufficient information to discredit the reports we have received so far.

Good question.

So far I've seen a person stating that He talked with His AD and that He checked with Rolex while all the others AD's that were referred just stated that it had been discontinued.

If I'm forgetting a case of an AD that, also, checked with Rolex and the answer was discontinued and it was presented in the forum, then You're right.

But if that wasn't the case why should I need the opinion of people that I'm not sure if they verified their info instead of one that states that it was verified?

Basel will tell lol

Sprta · 18 February 2018, 02:19 AM

Seems odd that dealers are taking deposits for a watch that never was in great demand and usually available at the AD.
Also still discounted fairly well on the grey market.
As someone said Basel 2018 will tell.

17 February 2018, 12:43 AM	#349
Ci54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Jeddah Watch: SS Sky Dweller Posts: 189	Saw these 2 last night and the dealer told us the BLRO is not discontinued.. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ Day-Date 18239, Daytona 116523, Breitling B1, Submariner 16610 LV Kermit, Polar Explorer ll 16570, 126600 SD 43, 126710 BLRO Pepsi, SS Sky Dweller 326934.

14 February 2018, 02:50 AM	#331
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	If a SS Pepsi ever did happen, it would be changed enough to differentiate it from the WG model. A red/blue color update doesn’t seem sufficient. Maybe if you combined it with a case and movement change but then why not also change the other YG and SS models? So I’m betting on WG Coke replacement.

14 February 2018, 03:45 AM	#332
duc888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 876	Hmm...very strange...I asked three AD in Germany and no one heard of it....and we´re so close to Switzerland

14 February 2018, 04:51 AM	#336
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 5,392	The smaller market dealer I visited last week mentioned that the BLRO is discontinued per his rep. He offered this up during our conversation, I did not ask the question.

14 February 2018, 05:14 AM	#341
JacksonStone Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,150	Some lume shots from the interwebs. IWC Aquatimer: Blancpain Fifty Fathoms:

14 February 2018, 06:58 AM	#345
Raza_actual "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Philadelphia Watch: Monaco Posts: 391	A titanium Coke bezel would be really interesting, actually. Doubt that will happen though.

17 February 2018, 12:24 AM	#347
wesleyvs "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: The Netherlands Watch: Rolex,Panerai & PP Posts: 256	Well ... for what it's worth, i asked an AD (eu) and he contacted the sales department of Rolex and they stated its going to be continued but has a long delivery time. And the plot thickens ... :P Cheers (this is not made up btw)

17 February 2018, 02:43 AM	#350
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	Not surprised. It was a terrible release.

17 February 2018, 07:07 AM	#353
JLM3 Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: RI Watch: blusylvx2blnrsmpbb Posts: 723	You need a new AD if he told you it was not !!! hehe

18 February 2018, 02:19 AM	#360
Sprta "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 457	Seems odd that dealers are taking deposits for a watch that never was in great demand and usually available at the AD. Also still discounted fairly well on the grey market. As someone said Basel 2018 will tell.

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