So today I put down a holding deposit on a .....

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

When I was shopping for a Rolex, I thought I'd give the Omega brand a chance, so I stopped at a Omega AD to check out their line.

I wasn't impressed with any of the Omega's. Omega is under the SWATCH umbrella. The materials used in an Omega are the same as those being used in Swatch's. In essence, all you're doing is paying big dollars for a Swatch with the name "OMEGA" emblazoned on the dial.

Rolex employs the use of 904L steel. Omega uses that cheapy tinny stuff that everyone else uses (314??).

There's no comparison.

By buying a Rolex, you're purchasing an over engineered watch.

Comparing Omega and Rolex is like vegetables to steak.

Thankyou for your input but I simply can't agree that Rolex & Omega are "vegetables to steak"......
I've had the pleasure of owning two of each & with respect I just think you're wrong.

Talking of "cheap tinny stuff" have you done up the clasp on a Sub' or Explorer II lately....????

[spuds]

Originally Posted by SDDS

interesting story..go for the one u like

thanks man......

[spuds]

Originally Posted by acosspr

Had a PO 45.5.
Purchased a DeepSea.
PO did not see anymore wrist time.
PO Sold.

At least, in my case, The DEEPSEA feels much more solid than the PO, not to mention the rotating bezel, huge difference there (clicks)
In my opinion, the DeepSea is worth AT LEAST 3 PO..

& I hear the DSSD's NOT got that "tin-foil" clasp either eh?!
(just a shame it's outa my price-band...... )

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Art 1

Nothing wrong with an Omega PO. A good watch for the money.

Agreed......

[spuds]

Originally Posted by padi56

Afraid you got a lot to learn about watches and its 316L steel they use just like the majority of the Swiss watch industry Patek Philippe included.........

now THAT's a correction!!!!

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Imran

Just an idea....get a new explorer II instead, buy it in your wonderful son's name, let him know how touched you were by his thoughtfullness and that this watch would go to him one day.
You are really blessed to have a child like that.
regards
Imran.

Imran THAT's an AWESOME idea....... THANKYOU....

[Gerardus]

Go for it!

[Imran]

please do let us know whichever way you go.

[gazp]

over the past 20 years i have had about 20 different rolexes, from air king to ss daytona. i always swap when i get bored with a watch and i only ever own one at a time .
twice during this period i have owned omegas , one a seamaster and once a planet ocean. whilst the omegas are great watches and i would never dis one the quality of the rolex watches is far better,one example is the rivets in the bracelet on the omegas !

the only reason anyone would prefer an omega over a rolex is they can not afford a rolex and they dont appreciate the quality of a rolex or they dont like the perceived image of the rolex brand .....similar to audi or BMW !

sorry if this post is annoying to some people but it is my honest view and will be the same to many other people if they are honest too.

[gazp]

sorry i currently have a ss sub date v serial and sell BMWs LOL

BEST WISHES TO ALL MEMBERS

[chenx15]

Originally Posted by padi56

Afraid you got a lot to learn about watches and its 316L steel they use just like the majority of the Swiss watch industry Patek Philippe included.And most Swatch brand watches use plastic or S.Steel cases in there watches.And the Swatch group has supplied the majority of the Swiss watch empire with ebauche movements for decades.And even Rolex has a part of Swatch in them for the past 40 years in the escapement parts like the hairsprings.The Swatch group has many high
end brands like: Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, Léon Hatot, Omega, Tiffany & Co.Omega make some very fine watches just like many others that can equal the build of Rolex any day.And some models from Seiko like the Seiko Grand movement wise and build quality will give most Swiss brands a run for there money at any price.



And a lot of people think the Swatch group that owns ETA is a inferior movement to many in-house brands which it is not.In most of there movement there are 5 grades including a chronometer grade thats used by Rolex for the Tudor range.And watches like the Ulysse Nardin marine chronometers have always been highly regarded, but it is a little known fact that for years, they were fitted with a hi-beat version of (36000 BPH) version of the Swatch group ETA 2824-2, UN calibre NBC.

Sometime I hear comments like "such an expensive watch and only an ETA movement inside ". Words like these give the impression that an ETA Swatch movement is of lower quality.It should be the other way around, people should say "Well, it has a excellent ETA movement inside this watch, but the price of this watch is astonishingly high".And lets not forget that the Swatch group still make and sell around five million plus movements a year.Lets not forget that ETA is the largest manufacture in Switzerland, because they too make everything, in-house only.I have a special regard for the Unitas 6497/8 this movement has not basically changed now for over 50 years,and is capable of COSC standards,and very forgiving in its servicing or lack of.A truly great workhouse movement that has powered many high end watches.

This is short list of outstanding movements that should all easily achieve a daily consistency of five seconds or better on the wrist.ETA 2892-A2, ETA 2824/2, ETA 7750,Unitas6497/8,Omega 2500, JLC 889/2 , JLC 960, all of the current Rolex calibers, Longines 990 (Lemania 8815), PP 215, PP 240, Zenith 400,Zenith 670, GP 3100 plus there are many more.

[spuds]

Originally Posted by gazp

.....the only reason anyone would prefer an omega over a rolex is they can not afford a rolex and they dont appreciate the quality of a rolex .......

[spuds]

Originally Posted by gazp

sorry i currently have a ss sub date v serial and sell BMWs LOL

BEST WISHES TO ALL MEMBERS

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Imran

please do let us know whichever way you go.

I surely will......

[gazp]

only my opinion spuds ........we all have them and they are what makes this forum so addictive and fun........so take a chill pill my friend

[spuds]

Originally Posted by gazp

only my opinion spuds ........we all have them and they are what makes this forum so addictive and fun........so take a chill pill my friend

dude that's why i used "smilies" as opposed to writing "B*LLSH...."...

I hadn't taken offence & I'm sorry if it appeared that I had.




After all it's your opinion & you're entitled to it......


YOU'RE JUST SOOOOOOOOOO DAMNED WRONG!!!!!!

[ingoodtime]

Originally Posted by spuds

.... brand spanking new Submariner 16610LV!!
(AD's holding it for me for three months until I get my 'loyalty points' allocated & then I'll top up the balance with cash).

As some of you already know my ongoing plan here is to also buy a 16610 in the next quarter & the watches will eventually be passed down to my sons.



But here's the kicker.........

While I was in there I tried on two Omega Planet Oceans (45.5mm.... straight black bezel/black & white face and also the orange bezel/red quarter numbers) & 'loyalty points discount' or not I simply can't see that the Rolex is worth TWO Planet Oceans.



Now fellas don't burn me here OK?!
I'm historically one of THE biggest Rolex devotees & I only 'down-graded' to Omegas when my business hit hard times & we desperately needed all the cash we could get.....

But guys......
seriously......

Have you tried on & closely inspected those Planet Oceans?????

They really ARE beautiful & they have a HUGE 'presence' about them & that coated glass really is some clever ........
but as much as I LOVE & hanker after a coupla Roly's again I really can't see how ONE Sub's worth TWO P.O.'s........


Can YOU?????


(& Guys I'd LOVE you to sway me back again 'cos leavin' my boys an Omega [no matter how cool & great a value they were] just don't hit my sweet-spot like leavin' 'em a Sub' y'know?????)



& oh yeah here's another thing......

I found out only last night that my fourteen year old son wrote down all the details of the Explorer II that I sold.......
& kept the sheet of paper for best part of two years.



When his Mum found it while tidying up one day & asked him what it was he told her......
.... "When I make it..... I'm gonna buy Dad his Rolex back".

I mean Guys..... how ing cool is THAT huh?????

Well Spuds,

Is it just the sentimental value you want them to have or do you also want something that might increase in value?

I am not saying that a n Omega in good shape won't be worth something years from now. However, I think a Rolex would be cooler way to go.

[spuds]

Originally Posted by ingoodtime

Well Spuds,

Is it just the sentimental value you want them to have or do you also want something that might increase in value?

I am not saying that a n Omega in good shape won't be worth something years from now. However, I think a Rolex would be cooler way to go.

you've hit the nail right on the head there my friend!

As my wife said......
"well our daughter's gonna get my jewellery & after all....
.... these watches aren't really supposed to be for YOU honey......
........ are they?????"


((if they were she'd go apesh*t over me spending that kinda cash!!))

[Alsey]

Great story about your son...

I don't know when you plan to pass them on to your sons, but it's you who is going to be wearing these watches for the next few yrs at least. If you get the LV and then next quarter the 16610....it's pretty much the same watch you'll be wearing.
Imo I'd get the Lv and if you really like the PO get that too, then think about the 16610. You've plenty of time to enjoy them and make a final choice later...I'd be happy if my dad left me any watch.

BTW the matte dial on the PO is awesome.

[spuds]

Originally Posted by Alsey

....I don't know when you plan to pass them on to your sons, but it's you who is going to be wearing these watches for the next few yrs at least. If you get the LV and then next quarter the 16610....it's pretty much the same watch you'll be wearing.......

to be honest that's kinda the intention...
I used to have an Exp11 & a DJ & The DJ just never got any wrist time 'cos it just felt too small.

I currently own two Seamasters (one black, one blue, which I alternate six-monthly... kinda 'Summer watch' & 'Winter watch') & I like the 'familiar weight & feel' of wearing such similar watches.

& the plan is that the boys either get 'em on their 21st or when I die.....
All depends if I can afford another one for myself when they come of age I guess?!

[Alsey]

Originally Posted by spuds

to be honest that's kinda the intention...
I used to have an Exp11 & a DJ & The DJ just never got any wrist time 'cos it just felt too small.

I currently own two Seamasters (one black, one blue, which I alternate six-monthly... kinda 'Summer watch' & 'Winter watch') & I like the 'familiar weight & feel' of wearing such similar watches.

& the plan is that the boys either get 'em on their 21st or when I die.....
All depends if I can afford another one for myself when they come of age I guess?!

Mate...sometimes you just can't plan too much and expect to make the right choices each time....really just get what you like right now. I'm sure your sons will love whatever they get.
I think if you get both rollies, you'll still be thinking about the PO...

[kyle L]

Wow great story! Next time maybe you can buy the pair if POs and give one to your son!

[gazp]

ok spuds .......your son rocks !

[dmc]

While this is a very amusing thread.

My brand new Rolex is sitting face up trying to make up the 3 seconds it has lost since I got it 30 hours ago. Maybe it just needs to run a while, I truly hope so. My preference would be for the watch to run a little fast, instead of a little slow. I'd rather worry about being a little early than being a little late.

Meanwhile my 12 yr old Omega Seamaster Pro 300M Quartz is hanging on my arm, it gains .1 second a day, ussually about 36 seconds a year. Now I know it has no soul according to some traditionalists. But it has served me well for all these years. As far as being able to afford a Rolex. For just a few hundred dollars more than what I paid for the Omega I could have bought a Rolex at the time.

I just wanted to say that in my opinion Omega is far from being junk, and not to may rungs down the ladder of prestige from Rolex. Not that it would make much difference in validating my opinion, but I would say that I've studied horology for at least 200 hours in the last 8 years. At one time I was considering buying all of the tools needed for overhauling old pocket watches.

If you where to compare Rolex to a Longines, Le Coultre ,Patek Phillipe, Vacheron, Choppard, Hubolt, Magistralis, Blancpain, Brequet, Zenith or some the other ultra expensive watches, would the Rolex then be considered junk?

I think after a little research an individual might not be so quick to disregard Omega as being garbage. http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=303164

Just my .02

[acosspr]

Originally Posted by spuds

& I hear the DSSD's NOT got that "tin-foil" clasp either eh?!
(just a shame it's outa my price-band...... )

I feel like the PO was just a watch...
The DSSD is a "timepiece" and a very strong one.

[Deyn Man]

great story bud!

so you got (will get) an LV... so that goes to one son... you have two right? (or am i mixing up threads already )...

if you get the PO, will that delay your purchase of another rolex? if so, i suggest just that you wait out for the new Sub or for another rolex... if it won't delay, then by all means, get the PO... it is a good watch!

i like what one suggested about getting your son an EXPII!

keep us posted bud!

[spuds]

Guys THANKYOU ALL for all your thoughts!!

After much deliberation with my wife (& even my sons!) I.....
No....
WE've decided that however much of a 'bargain' the PO's are that's not really the point of these particular watches....
& the sheer ever-lasting appeal of the Sub's makes them the perfect choice for 'heirloom watches'.

So my AD's got me right at the top of his list for the 16610 too now & I'll have an expected delivery date of that one tomorrow.....!!

[KarlFr]

good choice

[gazp]

right choice 100% my friend you will not regret it

[JPS]

I used to own several Omegas, including 2 PO's and since I moved over to Rolex I would not go back to anything else, regardless of how tempting the other options look in comparison.

Had my LV for 2 years now and it's my daily wearer and I love wearing it. It's just the correct balance between weight and presence to not get in the way as personally I found the PO's to be too weighty on the wrist.

I can understand your way of thinking, but I have to say you've really made the best decision to stick with the LV. Look forward to the pics!