My prayers are with Paris, France

[greggsiam]

Paris right now



These people that kill in the name of their religion are just beyond the highest level of ignorance, evil, and intolerance imaginable.

One of the listed suspects, the youngest, has already turned himself in. It appears he was in school the entire time and has a verifiable alibi.

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42 yr old Muslim police officer killed in attack

[Rogdogg]

It was an absolutely horrendous act. My thoughts are with families and friends of all of the murdered and injured people.
From what I have read they have identified the people they suspect as carrying this out. That should make things a lot easier now that they know who they are after.

[Takemusu]

Originally Posted by engin33r

About the bad apples, if they kept falling from the same tree - how long does it take for us to realize that the tree is the problem?

True. The trouble is most of the tree isn't a problem.

[997.2]

rip

[Blubaru]

Originally Posted by engin33r

My condolences... Such a waste of human Lives, whoever did this they're not human...

About the bad apples, if they kept falling from the same tree - how long does it take for us to realize that the tree is the problem?

So true. They need to grow up and join the rest of the civilized world.

[Rock]

Originally Posted by Takemusu

True. The trouble is most of the tree isn't a problem.

You could argue that most of the mad dog isn't the problem - only the part that causes it to savage you.

[bayerische]

A horrible act of cowards.

[bayerische]

And the madness continues!
A female police officer shot to death today in Paris.

[THC]

HA good one, Clive

[steveclocks]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

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Cru, stay safe my friend !
The whole of Europe is in shock, it's targeting our hearts

[Kingair]

Where are we going . . . .

Sad sad sad news

[joli160]

What a savage act.
My thoughts are with the families of the Magazine staff and Police Officers.

In Europe freedom of speech is long gone, made impossible by our overly correct politicians. This is the result.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by steveclocks

Cru, stay safe my friend !
The whole of Europe is in shock, it's targeting our hearts

, Steve. Safe and sound, though quite stressed. Having lost a friend who was working in one of the towers on 09/11, all this is bringing back bad memories....

[Takemusu]

Originally Posted by Rock

You could argue that most of the mad dog isn't the problem - only the part that causes it to savage you.

Yes, but the dog is a single being that can be held accountable for its actions. Chopping down an entire tree for a small percentage of bad apples means the majority of good fruit is lost too. That's irresponsible...horticulture.

However, this is not the place for a political debate, so I digress and want to send my best wishes for solace to those in Paris.

[Jackplane]

Originally Posted by antNYC

Terrible tragedy. But I believe most people in this world are good people. Don't let these few bad apples skew your perspective.

Well said totally agree

[engin33r]

Originally Posted by Takemusu

Yes, but the dog is a single being that can be held accountable for its actions. Chopping down an entire tree for a small percentage of bad apples means the majority of good fruit is lost too. That's irresponsible...horticulture.

However, this is not the place for a political debate, so I digress and want to send my best wishes for solace to those in Paris.

Do you seriously think that this will end in Paris, that there won't be more attacks? I think it's just a matter of time.

And will you say the same thing for each of these future attacks? best wishes to victims and that they are just... bad apples? How many more of these incidents before you start to say they're not simply bad apples?

My friend is a terrorist bomb victim, she lost her hearing on one side, she had to underwent surgeries to get shrapnels out of her body. You tell me, that was just a bad apple? And yes, the terrorists were Muslims, they actually blew themselves up. She was there in the wrong time.

These people are serial killers at heart. They prey on the weak, the defenseless. Where is the sense in shooting dead unarmed civilians? The peshawar school incident, they shot and killed 132 children... for God's sake.

These are not bad apples, these are serial killers on the loose, and they live among us.

PS: I agree that not all Muslims are bad... far from it. But, there are some Muslims who are extremists and intolerant - and they form a group in itself.

[threemonkeys]

I recognize that not all (insert name) are terrorists. But when all the savage terrorists appear to be (insert name), there's probably more at play than simply bad PR.

I feel for our French friends. I'm in the U.S, and you can bet we stand united with you. This is an attack on all of us that share the same values. And those values do not include strict adherence to an outdated, barbaric interpretation of a particular book.

[KINGROLESAR]

Originally Posted by engin33r

Do you seriously think that this will end in Paris, that there won't be more attacks? I think it's just a matter of time.

And will you say the same thing for each of these future attacks? best wishes to victims and that they are just... bad apples? How many more of these incidents before you start to say they're not simply bad apples?

My friend is a terrorist bomb victim, she lost her hearing on one side, she had to underwent surgeries to get shrapnels out of her body. You tell me, that was just a bad apple? And yes, the terrorists were Muslims, they actually blew themselves up. She was there in the wrong time.

These people are serial killers at heart. They prey on the weak, the defenseless. Where is the sense in shooting dead unarmed civilians? The peshawar school incident, they shot and killed 132 children... for God's sake. Ll

These are not bad apples, these are serial killers on the loose, and they live among us.

Originally Posted by threemonkeys

I recognize that not all (insert name) are terrorists. But when all the savage terrorists appear to be (insert name), there's probably more at play than simply bad PR.

I feel for our French friends. I'm in the U.S, and you can bet we stand united with you. This is an attack on all of us that share the same values. And those values do not include strict adherence to an outdated, barbaric interpretation of a particular book.

I could not agree more!!!!!!! I will leave it at that. Feel free to PM me and I will tell you just how much I agree!!!!!!!

[vitalsignsrn]

What a total waste of humanity. So sad to read this. You don't need any religious affiliation to be a compassionate human being.

Honestly... I live this day in & day out. Doesn't matter what background you are, we are all the same. We crave all the same things. I work in Intensive care. When the patient isn't doing well, I get a lot of hugs from family because they just need that part of humanity. I have been at it for 24yrs so for me, especially that Im Italian, I have no issue with hugging & comforting those who need it. A lot of those, are from all walks of life. I'm a touchy feely kind of person & dont feel weird or uncomfortable about hugging. Is part of me and my job. Makes no difference to me, but what it does highlight, we all need compassion. Shame on those that cry for justice in the name of any of their gods they choose. Again..so sad. RIP....:-( Some of these lunatics are totally brainwashed. Sadly, if they could just keep it within their own psycho minds & in their country would be fantastic. Leave everyone else alone. Not happening but I can still wish for it. If I really think about the future, I worry for my niece 3yrs & my nephew 5ys, as well as the other millions of small children that have Zero clue about what is going on around them. I keep going in circles...I'll stop. :-(

[Takemusu]

Originally Posted by engin33r

And will you say the same thing for each of these future attacks? best wishes to victims and that they are just... bad apples? How many more of these incidents before you start to say they're not simply bad apples?

I'm sorry. That's the problem with metaphors. I didn't mean to imply that the victims were "bad apples"! Heavens no! I was simply saying that it I feel it is wrong to condemn an entire group of people (in this case Muslims) for a smaller percentage of psychopaths who happen to believe in some of the same things. The psychopaths are the "bad apples" in the analogy, not the victims!

I am also sorry to hear about your friends. I fear It won't be long until we all are touched in a similar way. I had numerous friends in and around the Boston marathon tragedy this last year. Any of them could have been hurt or killed. They were exceedingly lucky.

[engin33r]

Originally Posted by Takemusu

I'm sorry. That's the problem with metaphors. I didn't mean to imply that the victims were "bad apples"! Heavens no! I was simply saying that it I feel it is wrong to condemn an entire group of people (in this case Muslims) for a smaller percentage of psychopaths who happen to believe in some of the same things. The psychopaths are the "bad apples" in the analogy, not the victims!

I understood you perfectly the first time. And I agree with you that we shouldn't condemn an entire group because of some minority in them acted the wrong way.

But on the other hand, this keeps happening. 911, boston, london, ottawa, sydney, and now paris. And what's the common thread in all those attacks? The perpetrators are all.... (you-know-who)

Why are there more psycopaths from that group? ...just have to ask

Anyway... we should stop at that - this isn't a political forum. I could go on more, if you like to know send me a PM.

[THC]

I am watching live reports right now where they have these 2 animals surrounded in a small town north of Paris... These 2 have now been awake over 50 hours and they should be caught or killed (hopefully the latter) sometime soon

[bayerische]

Shooting reported at a Kosher store in Paris.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Shooting reported at a Kosher store in Paris.

Yup, with at least one person wounded it seems.

[Leasky]

Originally Posted by THC

From what I read, this magazine put out constant satire on all religions. The profit Mohammed being in there too. They were fire bombed 4 years ago for the same thing. Salmin Rushdie still lives in hiding almost 40 years later... This is one subject everyone should leave alone... No upside whatsoever.. Hope they capture them

Sorry, I can't agree with your statement to "leave alone". All religions / political parties should be open to satire in a democracy with relative free speech.

The real issues will become evident when we give into those who threaten us for using that free speech. There will be a tipping point in the future in Europe and it will not be pretty but events such as which have unfolded in France over the past 2 days will not be isolated events and I fear that things will get worse before they get better...

Britain and France are not without blame for our historical ills committed against Muslim countries in the Middle East and North Africa, however attempts to integrate religions and cultures into these respective Western European countries has not been as successful as it could have been; despite all the efforts made by the incumbent populations.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by THC

I am watching live reports right now where they have these 2 animals surrounded in a small town north of Paris... These 2 have now been awake over 50 hours and they should be caught or killed (hopefully the latter) sometime soon

It's a done deal.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by engin33r

Do you seriously think that this will end in Paris, that there won't be more attacks? I think it's just a matter of time.

And will you say the same thing for each of these future attacks? best wishes to victims and that they are just... bad apples? How many more of these incidents before you start to say they're not simply bad apples?

My friend is a terrorist bomb victim, she lost her hearing on one side, she had to underwent surgeries to get shrapnels out of her body. You tell me, that was just a bad apple? And yes, the terrorists were Muslims, they actually blew themselves up. She was there in the wrong time.

These people are serial killers at heart. They prey on the weak, the defenseless. Where is the sense in shooting dead unarmed civilians? The peshawar school incident, they shot and killed 132 children... for God's sake.

These are not bad apples, these are serial killers on the loose, and they live among us.

PS: I agree that not all Muslims are bad... far from it. But, there are some Muslims who are extremists and intolerant - and they form a group in itself.

Dear sir... There are extremists and evil found In Every walk of life.

I am not on the outside, I know many friends who are have been lost to acts of terror.

Targeting civilians women and children is heinous, war is hell. In this case, there is a group who preaches and teaches hate as a way of life. There is a core of ignorance that has to be educated

Unfortunately that group can not be corralled into one isolated space so as to render them harmless. It is not an easy solution. For it to get resolved, the world has to agree and each government has to address their own problems at home.

Attacks have been in the places mentioned above along with canada London spain Indonesia etc etc... It is a worldwide problem and if it can be addressed on that level, then perhaps we will see results.

But we absolutely can not condemn an entire people or we are simply a part of the problem.




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[nick c]

Looks like they been killed by police I hope

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by nick c

Looks like they been killed by police I hope

Yes they were.

[nick c]

Good job by police all dead