Ceramic Daytona from AD at retail price. Should I?

[JohnGreen300]

Buy it all day long, I understand your reservations about profiteering from your AD relationship. If it doesn't sing to you when it arrives you could always sell it for the price you paid and move on.

[travisb]

Have a look when you get the call and then decide what you think. At this point it sounds like a pass for you.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Pimpsy

Thank you for the replies. I love this place! :)

I would not feel right accepting the watch at cost from my AD due to our relationship and then reselling at a profit.

Have to agree and thats one of the main things that getting the so called new ceramic Daytona is in short supply to some.I would say 1 in every 5 bought at the moment are flipped to the grey market for profit. Thus depriving those who really want to own the Daytona C for themselves, it was the same with the original Daytona way back in 2000.

[1William]

I would pass based on how you have described your feelings toward the watch. I have been around the block with the Daytona in all PM except Platinum and in SS. I also have large wrists and the watch for me is too small. I have tried to make it work but it just does not. The PP, while beautiful, also wears small. I would keep the DD II as I think it is a great watch and out of production. How about a SS DJ II with a dial that you do not have on one of your other watches?

[BillA]

Why would you feel bad after buying from AD and then flipping it? Your AD is making a profit, they would not sell to you otherwise. So if you make a couple of bucks, why does that hurt your relationship with the AD? You are not obligated to tell the AD you flipped it.
Personally I think that paying over list price for a watch is nuts, but people are willing to do it to get it, it is simple supply and demand, you did not create this problem.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by BillA

Why would you feel bad after buying from AD and then flipping it? Your AD is making a profit, they would not sell to you otherwise. So if you make a couple of bucks, why does that hurt your relationship with the AD? You are not obligated to tell the AD you flipped it.
Personally I think that paying over list price for a watch is nuts, but people are willing to do it to get it, it is simple supply and demand, you did not create this problem.

Indeed the AD will make an easy 4700 bucks lol this ain't charity work.

[Spartacus]

I'll Meet you there and buy it, if it's a white dial! I promise to keep it

[1995akcoop]

buy if you want it.... Its an AD so they cant sell over retail anyway


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[Castiel]

Do what you think is right for you at this time.

[Racerdj]

I would opt for the 5712 but it's your decision.

[enjoythemusic]

Buy it, as it'll be a classic and hold better value long after the Patek.

[Speed]

Don't just buy it because others are busting a nut to get it If you really want something else.

[Exploradori]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Unless you're absolutely filthy rich, $13,000 seems like a lot of money to spend on a watch you don't love, just because a bunch of dudes on a forum wish they could get one.

I agree. I know most in this forum would kill me for the following story. I got in my AD list for the new 116500LN (the white dial one) the day it was revealed in Basel. I got a call two weeks ago saying it had arrived in the store (8 months later). Price was retail. I thought hard between the difference of me loving it, and me supposed to love it because all the hype. I decided to let it go this time and let someone else enjoy it.

I think it's an amazing watch, but I feel played by Rolex with all the artificial scarcity around it. I get more excited when I see vintage Daytonas, an even the more recent 16520. In the end --and this will sound crazy-- I can't get past the PCLs... I know I can polish them, but it sounds more like jewelry than an honest tool watch as it was in its beginnings. Maybe someday it'll call me again. Just not now.

[brandrea]

I wouldn't spend money on watch that didn't sing to me

[toneafficianado]

I agree with IWilliam above.
Try a DJ 2 in SS or the mighty Polar Explorer 2 42mm.
Both these watches are slightly bigger than a Daytona C. Better for a larger wrist.
They both measure 21mm across the lugs so the bracelet is wider too at the case end.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Unless you're absolutely filthy rich, $13,000 seems like a lot of money to spend on a watch you don't love, just because a bunch of dudes on a forum wish they could get one.

x2

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree and thats one of the main things that getting the so called new ceramic Daytona is in short supply to some.I would say 1 in every 5 bought at the moment are flipped to the grey market for profit. Thus depriving those who really want to own the Daytona C for themselves, it was the same with the original Daytona way back in 2000.

hence why rolex should flood the market with the daytona c.....more $ for rolex

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by BillA

Why would you feel bad after buying from AD and then flipping it? Your AD is making a profit, they would not sell to you otherwise. So if you make a couple of bucks, why does that hurt your relationship with the AD? You are not obligated to tell the AD you flipped it.
Personally I think that paying over list price for a watch is nuts, but people are willing to do it to get it, it is simple supply and demand, you did not create this problem.

technically it is supply and demand but truthfully supply and demand means the cost of something gone up because of a LEGITIMATE scarcity....

rolex could end all this horsecrap at anytime.....why they choose to let ' greys' charge MORE than they do is laughable.....rolex with this move has made me lose some respect for their lame tactics.....

the daytona-c is nothing more than a 'myth'....its not scarce......it will always be available and one day they will be easy to get as the previous daytona....

[Stealerfan86]

Buy it and sell it to trusted seller


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[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by Stealerfan86

Buy it and sell it to trusted seller


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the trusted seller won't pay OVER list

[watchwatcher]

OP: Any updates to this thread?

FWIW, I would take the Daytona, if that's still an option.

[Stealerfan86]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

the trusted seller won't pay OVER list

Yea they will. Current going rate for white dial is around $15k
However, black dial is a dog unless TS has a customer waiting for it


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[porschejeff]

Buy it wear it and enjoy. After a year or so sell it and you won't lose any money.

[melrob1]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

the trusted seller won't pay OVER list

Oh yes they do, LOL. Trust.

[Vaxe]

Definitely

[OgSnowflake]

Buy for 12.4 ... sell for 15 effortlessly...use profits on champagne & smokable herbs and call it a holiday season!

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by melrob1

Oh yes they do, LOL. Trust.

I'm sure their are some 'greys' that will pay someone 'over' list...but truthfully they are getting from ADs at list.....

plenty of evidence to support ADs selling @ msrp to consumers.....

considering the 'top' greys are far more well connected I'm pretty sure they get at msrp as well......

would any grey take and do a quick flip for $$ sure....but at that point why should a seller who picked up a daytona c do the grey a favour? just flip at the greys selling price rather than taking a 'hit'

greys are making a KILLING on daytona c's with roughly $5000 markups.....probably more because I'm pretty sure some 'top' greys pay LESS than MSRP for the daytona-c

until i see evidence of what the top greys are 'paying' for the daytona-c BNIB from a regular joe we can only speculate.....greys need to flip for profit and make no mistake their margins are 'high'

[melrob1]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

I'm sure their are some 'greys' that will pay someone 'over' list...but truthfully they are getting from ADs at list.....

plenty of evidence to support ADs selling @ msrp to consumers.....

considering the 'top' greys are far more well connected I'm pretty sure they get at msrp as well......

would any grey take and do a quick flip for $$ sure....but at that point why should a seller who picked up a daytona c do the grey a favour? just flip at the greys selling price rather than taking a 'hit'

greys are making a KILLING on daytona c's with roughly $5000 markups.....probably more because I'm pretty sure some 'top' greys pay LESS than MSRP for the daytona-c

until i see evidence of what the top greys are 'paying' for the daytona-c BNIB from a regular joe we can only speculate.....greys need to flip for profit and make no mistake their margins are 'high'

I agree that most greys probably do pay msrp from theirs AD's. However I know for a fact that the majority of greys inventory of D500C's are coming from people who are flipping. They are paying 2-3 k over msrp and then adding 2-3 k to re sell

[Trouble15]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Take it either way. This is easy.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by melrob1

I agree that most greys probably do pay msrp from theirs AD's. However I know for a fact that the majority of greys inventory of D500C's are coming from people who are flipping. They are paying 2-3 k over msrp and then adding 2-3 k to re sell

like i said...until i see 'proof' of what a 'flipper' gets paid from Davidsw for example than this is all speculative.....

furthermore.....based on this theory i for one might as well post an ad offering $15000 for a bnib daytona-c and than flip myself for $17500....thats an easy $2500...

if its too good to be true.......

my guess is MOST are keeping their daytona-c's

the greys daytona-c's are direct from ADS 99% of the time......

again...rolex could stop this at anytime.......rolex is partaking in this 'crap' by creating an artificial supply-demand problem.....