Found a BLRO That’s Apparently Married

[77T]

Originally Posted by TimingsEverything

Tell them you read this article, show it to them and ask if they are REALLY insisting on buying the Patek as a condition of buying the BLNR.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/y...orld_of_tying/


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Can he leave your card as his representative?

An AD wouldn’t be subject to those provisions as none are so dominant in any market to have the power to restrain trade.

I know the story is galling but likely out of Rolex’s observation.


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[peterpl]

Originally Posted by yawgmoths

You're joking right? Almost every luxury market has this strategy in place. Have you ever tried buying a Birkin or any hard to get Hermes? How about a GT3 that you will never get unless you have purchased other cars beforehand. The Rolex market is no different from any other high end in demand brand.

Your comparing GT3 vs a SS BLRO?

I got nothing to say. I guess there has to be some very stupid people in the world.

[broham84]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Your comparing GT3 vs a SS BLRO?

I got nothing to say. I guess there has to be some very stupid people in the world.

Why the insult? I see a fair comparison, neither are necessities, both are luxury items.

[Pay M3]

Originally Posted by yawgmoths

You're joking right? Almost every luxury market has this strategy in place. Have you ever tried buying a Birkin or any hard to get Hermes? How about a GT3 that you will never get unless you have purchased other cars beforehand. The Rolex market is no different from any other high end in demand brand.

That is brand loyalty that rewards their most valued customers. I disagree that what this AD is doing is the same thing. This would be the same as Footlocker only selling you shoes if you buy another set of shoes from a different brand.

[brucethemanlee]

All these combo deals to get sought after Rolexes are crazy!!!

Buying a PP to get a BLRO? All the more power to you if you do it. Personally I'd walk away. Unless it's a 5711 or 5164 or 5167, it financially would not make sense. You might as well go grey dealer for and it's be cheaper overall!!

Luckily my AD has been straight up with me all the time. In the last 30 months I have gotten BLNR, Daytona white and Daytona black. All without pre-conditions and all one right after another and.all at MSRP. They offered me a CHNR, SkyD blue, and SD43 but I declined on them. They said I can expect to see a BLRO before Xmas (crossing fingers )!!




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[steve099]

Ferrari and Porsche do this for their limited edition options, you do not get a look in unless you have bought others and been a loyal customer. Sure it is a bit meh, but why not watches too?

You know you got your brand image down pat when people are paying double list price just to get one. It does not get better than that in marketing and retail.

[Pay M3]

Originally Posted by steve099

Ferrari and Porsche do this for their limited edition options, you do not get a look in unless you have bought others and been a loyal customer. Sure it is a bit meh, but why not watches too?

You know you got your brand image down pat when people are paying double list price just to get one. It does not get better than that in marketing and retail.

Again, that’s the brand doing that and not the dealer and not with competing products. A similar scenario would be having to buy a Ford Mustang to get the GT3. Here’s some toilet paper but you need to buy this toilet as well.

[TimingsEverything]

Originally Posted by 77T

Can he leave your card as his representative?

An AD wouldn’t be subject to those provisions as none are so dominant in any market to have the power to restrain trade.

I know the story is galling but likely out of Rolex’s observation.


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Yes, I know that, and you know that, but will the AD know? You've played poker, haven't you? :)

[Tony8959]

Originally Posted by Pay M3

AD in Maui told me they are only selling the BLRO’s to returning customers that spend hundreds of thousands with them. Only other way is to purchase a Patek. I asked if I purchase a Patek can I get it and she said sure, she would call the owner and see how quick they could get the watch to the store. Can’t say I agree with this at all and sad to see this is fairly normal practice right now.

Is it Baron and Leeds ?? Not trying to out them but I just had a similar issue with them there on my honeymoon. Got the run around by two separate salespeople. Figured you guys would want to know. I told them I wanted a Daytona they first denied they had it and then admitted they did, as well as all other hard to find watches in inventory. Basically told me buy a PM and they’d sell it to me. I went back next day because my wife saw jewelery she liked and other salesperson mentioned the Patek offer. They said they do this because it’s a resort area and usually don’t have regular clientele. I ended up buying a few thousand in jewelery and a close friend of mine wanted a DJ they had as well as a hulk. They said they could bundle those two together but not the Daytona. So bought two rolexes and two pieces of jewelery and wouldn’t give it to me. Their store left a very bad taste in my mouth.

[Duey]

Baron & Leeds is the only AD in Hawaii I think. They took over the boutique in Waikiki last year.

[mistercoach32]

I don’t think it’s unethical at all for the AD to require the ultimatum. Market value is what someone will pay. Period. Dealers have the choice to require those prerequisites now just like customers had the right to require an AD discount during the cooler market. If someone wants “the experience” and his/her name on the warranty card then the AD’s have all the leverage. For me, I don’t do well with ultimatums so I would have laughed in the AD’s face and purchased from a grey dealer. It’s business.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by yawgmoths

You're joking right? Almost every luxury market has this strategy in place. Have you ever tried buying a Birkin or any hard to get Hermes? How about a GT3 that you will never get unless you have purchased other cars beforehand. The Rolex market is no different from any other high end in demand brand.

Oddly enough, I have a friend who just bought a GT3 with no prior history and no personal connection to the dealer.

[nektar]

You pay for 3 Rolex, you get only one!!! That could be another deal


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[easterbunny]

Learned behavior.

Surely when the ADs order watches from Rolex they can just order whatever they want so why would they pull this on the consumer?

Monkey see monkey do. It would be ridiculous for Rolex to try and stop this when this is essentially their sales model/strategy as well.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by easterbunny

Learned behavior.

Surely when the ADs order watches from Rolex they can just order whatever they want so why would they pull this on the consumer?

Monkey see monkey do. It would be ridiculous for Rolex to try and stop this when this is essentially their sales model/strategy as well.

They can’t order whatever they want
They take what they’re given

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Pay M3

Again, that’s the brand doing that and not the dealer and not with competing products. A similar scenario would be having to buy a Ford Mustang to get the GT3. Here’s some toilet paper but you need to buy this toilet as well.

Going grey is your best route

[Richmor]

Originally Posted by 037

Tell them you want a 5711 + BLRO. Done deal.

That would be nice.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

All I can say is that anyone who buys a Patek for the sole purpose of purchasing a Rolex has to be a total fool.

I mean, I like watches a lot and I own lots of watches, so adding a couple in a week or so, or even buying two at once is not out of the question, but being given that kind of ultimatum would stop me in my tracks.

Now, I'm not suggesting that I could in any way afford such a deal, anyway, as my top dollar for any watch is $9999.99, but I have never dealt well with ultimatums, either in matters of finance or matters of the heart.

Anyone buying any second watch so they can purchase a mass produced Rolex is a fool in my book.But while there are fools around that will do this, the trend will continue.

[Token74]

This is the way the premium car market has worked for a long time. Go into your local Ferrari dealership and try to buy a 488 Pista or an F12TDF, or into your Porsche dealership and try to buy a GT3 or GT2. If you haven’t spent a truck-load with them before, good luck!

This happens all over the place, top restaurants do the same thing. I could ring a top restaurant and be told there are no tables for several weeks and even then, only crappy times. Sir Herbert of Wealthshire who eats in that restaurant regularly could call straight after me and get a table that night at any time they want!

This is just business and I don’t blame them at all, it’s all very logical. And I wonder how many people moaning about the situation bought from greys years ago when you could get a cheaper price from them than an AD.


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[jezza17]

Unfortunately you hear of this behaviour by AD’s all too often regarding the new BLRO. It is just insane.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by cvo

Using SS Rolex as bait to sell other watches is ridiculous! I would only work with ADs who are straight up. I would rather wait than to play that game.

There are no straight up AD's They all have shady waiting lists or other sale conditions.
You 'll never get one if you don't want to play.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

All I can say is that anyone who buys a Patek for the sole purpose of purchasing a Rolex has to be a total fool.

I mean, I like watches a lot and I own lots of watches, so adding a couple in a week or so, or even buying two at once is not out of the question, but being given that kind of ultimatum would stop me in my tracks.

Now, I'm not suggesting that I could in any way afford such a deal, anyway, as my top dollar for any watch is $9999.99, but I have never dealt well with ultimatums, either in matters of finance or matters of the heart.

I agree. Being pressured to buy something I don't want and which is significantly more expensive. Agree or disagree, but I'm not buying a Porsche just to be "allowed" to buy a midrange Lexus suv. Absurd.

[Boaters]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

All I can say is that anyone who buys a Patek for the sole purpose of purchasing a Rolex has to be a total fool.

I mean, I like watches a lot and I own lots of watches, so adding a couple in a week or so, or even buying two at once is not out of the question, but being given that kind of ultimatum would stop me in my tracks.

Now, I'm not suggesting that I could in any way afford such a deal, anyway, as my top dollar for any watch is $9999.99, but I have never dealt well with ultimatums, either in matters of finance or matters of the heart.

Perfect!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Pay M3

I asked about a SS Nautilus and she said no. I might have done it on this one.

It will be a dress watch, they ain't no fools. The biggest grey in Europe has a buyback policy but only on SS Rolexes, won't even extend it to SS Pateks at the moment, they must think the numbers are too high and they're not sure of the future market.

[ferrissteve11]

Someone did bring up an interesting comment. Buy both, and then return the one you don't like within the return window. Given that you're technically buying 2 watches, what prevents the return of the reference you don't want? Seems like a logical course of action for someone...

[subtona]

Originally Posted by 037

Tell them you want a 5711 + BLRO. Done deal.

[T3F]

When I was there over the summer, I could’ve bought a 5726A and gotten a Daytona with it. I regret not doing it, as I would have made a few thousand on the Nautilus and would have also gotten a Daytona, but it just didn’t feel right and I was afraid of getting blacklisted for flipping.

[GB-man]

I use to enjoy the game but now I’m tired and that’s why I’m selling instead of buying lately.

[nektar]

Originally Posted by padi56

Anyone buying any second watch so they can purchase a mass produced Rolex is a fool in my book.But while there are fools around that will do this, the trend will continue.

Or they may have more money than they need..


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[SearChart]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I use to enjoy the game but now I’m tired and that’s why I’m selling instead of buying lately.

Selling watches means more money for Porsches