Is discontinued GMT BNLR will lose value due to the new Jubilee BNLR?

[Bebot]

Originally Posted by VegasMilgauss

The BLNR has been updated with a new bracelet and movement not discontinued.

^^^This^^^

[Cryten]

Originally Posted by NoVaSubowner

Really depends on which Batman you are discussing. Some are Michael Keaton Batman fans. Others are Christian Bale loyalists. Both have long term appeal.

Originally Posted by broham84

I'm a Val Kilmer Batman fan

Adam West was Batman. He didn't need any flake latex muscles, just some corny editing to make the fight scenes family friendly

[NoVaSubowner]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Adam West was Batman. He didn't need any flake latex muscles, just some corny editing to make the fight scenes family friendly

Hah.

Val Kilmer? Seriously? You might as well say George Clooney.


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[GMT Aviator]

Give it a year or two and the BLNR fetish is going to tail right off. There’s been too much hype surrounding it, especially here on trf.
If the LN has truly been removed from the line up, it will take a lot of heat from anyone who’s on the fence about BLNR or LN in the pre-owned market, as BLNr’s can still be had by placing an order at an AD, a LN can’t and lets face it, everyone wants what they can’t have and that been evident since Baselworld where we’ve seen a significant jump in the LN’s price and boat loads of incomings of newly acquired LN’s all of a sudden.
There’s was always going to be a new desirable piece in the GMT line up and right now I’d say the BLRO and the CHNR are making the BLNR probably the least desirable of the three to a new buyer.

[coaxial]

I missed the boat twice before Basel this year with both a BLNR & 116710 that I shouldve bought at a bargain... But I do think it will take awhile before the new Batman starts to be more accepted (at least in my eyes; Never cared for the Jubilee).

[Lemonvr6]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

Give it a year or two and the BLNR fetish is going to tail right off. There’s been too much hype surrounding it, especially here on trf.
If the LN has truly been removed from the line up, it will take a lot of heat from anyone who’s on the fence about BLNR or LN in the pre-owned market, as BLNr’s can still be had by placing an order at an AD, a LN can’t and lets face it, everyone wants what they can’t have and that been evident since Baselworld where we’ve seen a significant jump in the LN’s price and boat loads of incomings of newly acquired LN’s all of a sudden.
There’s was always going to be a new desirable piece in the GMT line up and right now I’d say the BLRO and the CHNR are making the BLNR probably the least desirable of the three to a new buyer.

Oyster BLNR in production for six years, price constantly rises

Gets discontinued, thinks price will drop

Makes sense

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by georgekart

If I had to guess, I'd guess the opposite. Jubilee doesn't look nice on BLNR and with opportunity to pick one on Oyster up people will go for that one if it costs the same. Hence the new will sell for less than the old.

Also with BLNR prices already at almost BLRO levels, I feel like if new BLNR will be even more than the old one, most people will just go for BLRO which actually looks nice on Jubilee. This will decrease prices of new BLNR to at most price of old BLNR.

So the BLNR does not look nice on the Jubilee but the BLRO does? It's the same watch, just a different color bezel.

I don't understand all the craze for the BLRO and now a black and blue version comes out and all of a sudden the one on the Oyster bracelet is better.

I have a BLNR on Oyster which I bought almost 5 years ago. I also have a DJ41 on Jubilee. The Oyster bracelet has more of a tool watch look, but I love the Jubilee bracelet. I find it more comfortable and better looking. If I had a choice right now between the old BLNR and the new one, I would pick the new one on Jubilee.

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by danny1305

the oyster bracelet on the original is much more desirable, and is no longer being produced. Prices will continue to go one way...

+1

[jaydav2306]

The facts are this...

Late 2015 early 2016 you could pickup a BLNR for roughly under retail from the grey market, the situation was the same in that it was very difficult to get from an AD yet in the UK from a source like Watchfinder one could be had for £5.850.00.

The push from sites such as Instagram has created a false demand , same thing started to happen for the Hulk, which could also be had under retail from a grey but sites such as Instagram have pushed false hype to unexpected levels, it’s the same difficultly getting on a list etc and obtaining these models the same as it was in 2016 so it is PURELY the grey market setting these prices.

After Basel I saw a grey dealer bump his BLNR price to £15,000 GBP, 2 weeks later this was back down to £13,500, and still they have the watch in stock at this price, false demand is being created to the point where Nagy are chopping in Ss For PN, this simply cannot and won’t last forever, no Rolex is an “investment piece” grey dealers speak absolute bull and what goes up must come down, this rule has always applied to everything apart from the Daytona, so stay wise people!

[samcarlos]

It won't loose value, but it won't stay at the price it is right now. I think they will swap in price. The old BLNR will sell for around 13K and the new one will sell for around 18k USD. You can see the Grey Market flooding with BLNR oysters right now because there are lots of them around. So if you want top dollar for discontinued batman, then sell now. Trend will follow what the Kermit did recently.

[henrylee]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

Give it a year or two and the BLNR fetish is going to tail right off. There’s been too much hype surrounding it, especially here on trf.
If the LN has truly been removed from the line up, it will take a lot of heat from anyone who’s on the fence about BLNR or LN in the pre-owned market, as BLNr’s can still be had by placing an order at an AD, a LN can’t and lets face it, everyone wants what they can’t have and that been evident since Baselworld where we’ve seen a significant jump in the LN’s price and boat loads of incomings of newly acquired LN’s all of a sudden.
There’s was always going to be a new desirable piece in the GMT line up and right now I’d say the BLRO and the CHNR are making the BLNR probably the least desirable of the three to a new buyer.

Hard pass on the LN. Even discontinued never did anything for me.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by jwill

Is discontinued GMT BNLR will lose value due to the new Jubilee BNLR?

Easy as state on the title, is the old Batman will losing their value when the new Jubilee bracelet BNLR hit the market?

Did you mean, "Will the discontinued GMT BLNR lose its value...?"

And,

"Easy as it states in the title, will the old Batman lose its value...?"

At any rate, I'm not a fan of either so it doesn't matter too me.

[zjd168]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

Give it a year or two and the BLNR fetish is going to tail right off. There’s been too much hype surrounding it, especially here on trf.
If the LN has truly been removed from the line up, it will take a lot of heat from anyone who’s on the fence about BLNR or LN in the pre-owned market, as BLNr’s can still be had by placing an order at an AD, a LN can’t and lets face it, everyone wants what they can’t have and that been evident since Baselworld where we’ve seen a significant jump in the LN’s price and boat loads of incomings of newly acquired LN’s all of a sudden.
There’s was always going to be a new desirable piece in the GMT line up and right now I’d say the BLRO and the CHNR are making the BLNR probably the least desirable of the three to a new buyer.

CHNR is not difficult to get from AD even now, and the grey market premium is probably the least in all current GMTs. I also believe the LN black will be back soon. Not sure if it will be green hand though. Can't imagine Rolex will abandon the TT YG and black gmt for long.

[mistercoach32]

Originally Posted by broham84

I'm a Val Kilmer Batman fan

Just no Ben Affleck please!!!

[HappyFish]

Originally Posted by samcarlos

It won't loose value, but it won't stay at the price it is right now. I think they will swap in price. The old BLNR will sell for around 13K and the new one will sell for around 18k USD. You can see the Grey Market flooding with BLNR oysters right now because there are lots of them around. So if you want top dollar for discontinued batman, then sell now. Trend will follow what the Kermit did recently.

Please send me a PM as you find an unworn 166710 BLNR for 13k!

https://www.chrono24.com/search/inde...1&watchTypes=U

[Vaxe]

Yes it should, just a matter of time

[HL65]

No in fact the opposite as prices have already moved way up. Take a look at the classifieds.

[rallyx]

Greys who hold the old Batman stock will try to convince the market that the price will go up now that it has been discontinued. The greys will also justify selling the new Batman at a much higher premium because of the new movement, jubilee bracelet and long wait list. Given the choice, I’ll go for the new Batman with the 70hr PR.

[Rrpdc]

Well. Not selling my oyster Blnr

[101031-28]

Originally Posted by ak797

greys won't lower prices ever, not unless demand falls off a cliff.

+1

[tng11]

Too much speculation. What happened to actually buying what you like and enjoying the watch? I have my BLNR on Oyster, it's the perfect complement to my BLRO on Jubilee. I would have a harder time justifying both on Jubilee. I was totally wrong that the price of the Oyster BLNR would come down a bit, but either way it doesn't really matter to me as I have no intention of selling.

[HappyFish]

As you study Chrono24 (what is a good global indicator for prices and trends) you will find about 40 pieces as you search for "Rolex BLNR 116710 new" as you search for "Rolex Batman new" you will find around 90 ads! As you enter "Rolex 126710 BLRO new" its about 190 pieces and for "Rolex 126710 Pepsi new" 85 offers!

My assumptions:

1: The 116710 BLNR was produced for 6 years - the 126710 BLRO only for 1 year- but there `re
ways more new BLRO`s at the market than from the BLNR which has been produced
for 6 years -....learn your lesson, hear the voice!

2: The nickname "Batman" is already ways more cult than "Pepsi" - in the Rolex world!

3. Wishfull bullshit about floodings from 116710 BLNR`s

4. The 126710 BLRO seems to be a Flipper watch....

Dreamers or Trolls IMO!

[Rafabond]

my thought is that the new Batman jubilee with the new movement will only be 1 year in production, to pass in Basel 2020 to the new Coke dial. the new Batman would be revalued very much by only having 1 year of life. the same thing that happened with the rolex 16710 caliber 3186, which was only very short time.

[HappyFish]

Originally Posted by Rafabond

my thought is that the new Batman jubilee with the new movement will only be 1 year in production, to pass in Basel 2020 to the new Coke dial. the new Batman would be revalued very much by only having 1 year of life. the same thing that happened with the rolex 16710 caliber 3186, which was only very short time.

Yes, i also believe it wont be for long in the catalogue - 2-3 years maybe!

[Old Geezer]

I have the BLNR on oyster. Hopefully soon I'll get the call on the BLRO on jubilee. I don't think I would want to have both on the same bracelet. The 70 hr power reserve is a nice upgrade though.

[Spartacus]

I prefer the oyster.

[Steel28]

Don’t forget, OG discontinuined BLNR also has MK1 dial and will always be higher in value.

[Steel28]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

Give it a year or two and the BLNR fetish is going to tail right off. There’s been too much hype surrounding it, especially here on trf.
If the LN has truly been removed from the line up, it will take a lot of heat from anyone who’s on the fence about BLNR or LN in the pre-owned market, as BLNr’s can still be had by placing an order at an AD, a LN can’t and lets face it, everyone wants what they can’t have and that been evident since Baselworld where we’ve seen a significant jump in the LN’s price and boat loads of incomings of newly acquired LN’s all of a sudden.
There’s was always going to be a new desirable piece in the GMT line up and right now I’d say the BLRO and the CHNR are making the BLNR probably the least desirable of the three to a new buyer.

Forgot to quote this one...BLNR can be had by placing an order from AD?

[henrylee]

^ haha true let us know the AD where you can place an order for the BLNR. I want another one.

[georgekart]

Originally Posted by Skyrider01

So the BLNR does not look nice on the Jubilee but the BLRO does? It's the same watch, just a different color bezel.

I don't understand all the craze for the BLRO and now a black and blue version comes out and all of a sudden the one on the Oyster bracelet is better.

I have a BLNR on Oyster which I bought almost 5 years ago. I also have a DJ41 on Jubilee. The Oyster bracelet has more of a tool watch look, but I love the Jubilee bracelet. I find it more comfortable and better looking. If I had a choice right now between the old BLNR and the new one, I would pick the new one on Jubilee.

Yes, it's just a different bezel and 24h hand color. And yet one works with Jubilee and another one doesn't. BLNR looks more plain due to dark blue and black bezel, so Oyster suits it better. On Jubilee it looks out of place. Same as if you look for LN or black Sub on Jubilee, they just look off. There are people who put them on Jubilee because they like it, but for me it doesn't work.

BLRO is colorful enough to the point where it looks well on Jubilee. MK1 also looks better to me than MK2, possibly because lighter colors work better with Jubilee. Additionally would explain why I think Hulk looks nice on Jubilee, but black Sub doesn't.

To add, DJ41 looks great on Jubilee, but I would say plain black and white dial versions don't look nice on Jubilee to me. Jubilee watch gotta be colorful, at least for me. Maybe because if it isn't, bracelet steals attention away from the watch head itself. Maybe because I'm just weird. I'd say at this point it's 50/50