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Old 15 April 2020, 12:18 AM   #31
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I would love slimmer lugs on the newer models, because I have small wrists, and because I don't want to buy an old reference.
Have you considered the Yacht-Master? The YM case is the closest thing to a five digit Sub in the current lineup, and IMO is even superior to the five digit Sub's case in the way that the lugs turn downward and wrap around the wrist.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:19 AM   #32
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
You are right. There are millions upon millions of Submariner buyers excluding those here on a forum that have no issue with nor most likely dwell upon something so silly as the case lugs. Those wanting to live in the past should simply own an older Submariner model. And if you have small, girly wrists a 40mm Submariner will be too big regardless of lug size.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:28 AM   #33
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To me the 6 digit Submariner case *almost* looks like a cushion case with the bracelet.

Once I got my 2nd Gen blnr, I was satisfied. Modern watch, 1st owner, newest technology, and lug proportions that I like. I have since sold my sub date.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:30 AM   #34
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Well without slimmer lugs,alignment points,minute font or colour changes,watch running one or two seconds over or under marketing spec etc.Or if I buy this or that will it go up in value what else has today's Rolex owner going to moan about.
But Without all of those topics what else would today’s TRF forum mods have to moan about?
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:35 AM   #35
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I love the 6 digit lugs. I think it sets the SubC apart from "homages" etc. It also makes it feel as tuff as a Rolex is known to be. It's a sport watch after all!
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:43 AM   #36
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I’ll tell you why. Because the move to larger lugs was a massive change and perhaps the biggest ever by Rolex at one time. It changed the entire lines of the watch. A circle on square appearance and a bracelet that no longer seamlessly blends into the case, but rather a disjointed and out of proportion hodgepodge of design style for no other functional purpose other than to increase wrist presence. It also took away from the versatility of the watches moving from a tool watch when needed to being inconspicuous when not needed into something that stands out like a sore thumb. That’s why.
Yet they sell all they make with people asking for more. Not sure that’s a bad move on Rolex’s part. I own a 114060 and love it. “Thick lugs” is overblown by pics on the internet and don’t really appear that out of place in reality. The bigger issue to me is the size of the crown guards, but I can live wit it.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:45 AM   #37
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
I didn't know Rolex were still producing them. Would be great if you could point us to the link on their website.

Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy your soap bar

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Old 15 April 2020, 12:52 AM   #38
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I like the fatter ones of the 6 digit models. Many people don't. I don't need to understand why people prefer slimmer lugs.

There are people out there who don't like everything I like. There are people out there with different views to mine. Wow! Who knew?

If one is sick of reading such posts/threads, then don't read them.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:56 AM   #39
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To each their own preference, that's what makes us watch lovers unique.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:56 AM   #40
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
Because there are changes other than the lugs which people might see as an improvement? I own a 5 digit Explorer II and a 114060. I think the lugs are too big on the 114060. But it’s not as bad as the crown guard, which imho is worse looking. I think Rolex sports watch design got worse from the 5 digit to 6 digit generations. But that’s just my opinion.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:57 AM   #41
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Yet they sell all they make with people asking for more. Not sure that’s a bad move on Rolex’s part. I own a 114060 and love it. “Thick lugs” is overblown by pics on the internet and don’t really appear that out of place in reality. The bigger issue to me is the size of the crown guards, but I can live wit it.
If anything with this current generation of Subs Rolex made them MORE of a "tool watch," which is what many here seem to pine for. As I mentioned above if you're looking for a "dressy diver" then take a look at the YM 40.

I 100% agree that in real life these considerations diminish quickly once you actually see them in the metal. I was a long-time "hater" of the ceramic bezel and the super case/maxi dial until I saw my 114060 in person.
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:58 AM   #42
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I didn't know Rolex were still producing them. Would be great if you could point us to the link on their website.

Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy your soap bar

Lousy photo shop job to enhance the lugs on this one.
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For real diving, the current Subs are too shiny. They can attract Barracuda attacks!
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:12 AM   #44
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I think it's time to slim down the lugs on the GMTs and the Subs, etc.

It's inevitable that lugs will become slimmer, as that is the way of the universe.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:17 AM   #45
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I think it's time to slim down the lugs on the GMTs and the Subs, etc.

It's inevitable that lugs will become slimmer, as that is the way of the universe.
Considering Rolex kept the case of the Submariner relatively static for a period of 50 years prior to the current generation, I'm not sure how inevitable it is...
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:28 AM   #46
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I think it's time to slim down the lugs on the GMTs and the Subs, etc.

It's inevitable that lugs will become slimmer, as that is the way of the universe.
"Inevitable" is a purely subjective and speculative term on your part.
Truth is you nor anyone here knows anything about what Rolex may or may not do as far as Submariner refinements in the future.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:29 AM   #47
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I didn't know Rolex were still producing them. Would be great if you could point us to the link on their website.

Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy your soap bar

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Old 15 April 2020, 01:38 AM   #48
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I actually love the new case design
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:39 AM   #49
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I really like the case proportions of my six digit Exp II. The lugs may be big but they are slim in relation to the larger dial/bezel dimensions. They also taper slightly from the band to the outside.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:42 AM   #50
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yep, that’s what I did actually. Got rid off the 116610LN and 116710BLNR, kept the 16610LV and 16710 pepsi.


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Old 15 April 2020, 01:44 AM   #51
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i dont understand either, lets invent a time machine and go back to the 50s

The Rolex just released the 114060 submariner. Believe it or not. All the divers will love this watch.

Super strong lugs, durable ceramics.

This is not a jewelry, Rolex Submariner is the ultimate automatic tool watch.

A tool watch needs to be strong, that lugs are strong.

However one thing I hate is the 4 line on the watch dial. Am I reading a poetry or what?

Just leave it Submariner and depth rating thats it.

Make my day reading the “ am I reading poetry or what ?”


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Old 15 April 2020, 01:45 AM   #52
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Well without slimmer lugs,alignment points,minute font or colour changes,watch running one or two seconds over or under marketing spec etc.Or if I buy this or that will it go up in value what else has today's Rolex owner going to moan about.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:55 AM   #53
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The newer case design with thicker lugs does make the watch appear more squared off. I think it all has to do with wrist size. Anyone with smaller than 7" wrist prefers thinner lugs, while wrists larger than 7" prefer the thicker lugs.

Then newer 6 digit reference offers much better upgrades though like the maxi-dial, ceramic bezel insert, solid bracelet links, and hugely upgraded clasp.

I'm just curious if anyone has every considered polishing down a current 6 digit reference enough for it to resemble a 5-digit thinner lug reference? I don't see why not.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:57 AM   #54
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You have to understand that for years and years a lot of us were programmed to understand that a Sub looks like that, and the supercase just doesn't.
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Old 15 April 2020, 01:59 AM   #55
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Sorry guys, I am a slimmer lug fan, I think the large ones look less refined and out of proportion.
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:09 AM   #56
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There’s obviously no wrong or right. Nothing wrong with discussing it, but there will never be an “improvement” down the road, just as going from the 5 digit case to the six digit case was neither an “improvement” or a “regression”. Increasing a power reserve from let’s say 48 hours to 72 hours is almost undoubtedly an improvement, but with design choices, there will always be people that like it and people that don’t. Again, no right or wrong.

I personally love them both!
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:13 AM   #57
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There’s obviously no wrong or right. Nothing wrong with discussing it, but there will never be an “improvement” down the road, just as going from the 5 digit case to the six digit case was neither an “improvement” or a “regression”. Increasing a power reserve from let’s say 48 hours to 72 hours is almost undoubtedly an improvement, but with design choices, there will always be people that like it and people that don’t. Again, no right or wrong.

I personally love them both!
Same here. I absolutely love the look of the five digit and earlier Subs but there are things I love about the current gen as well. Personally I think it was a very bold and courageous choice by Rolex to change the case of one of the most iconic watches ever made.
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:16 AM   #58
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:19 AM   #59
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I LOVE the current generation of beefier and meatier lug designs... I just wish they could manufacture MORE PRECISE endlinks so that the lugs do not protrude by that millimeter. more flush is more better
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Old 15 April 2020, 02:20 AM   #60
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They had the perfect case shape. I'll never forget when I first saw the new one. I had no idea. Needless to say I won't be buying any watch with it.
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