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Old 14 April 2020, 08:16 PM   #1
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Tired of hearing about slimmer lugs

I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?

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Old 14 April 2020, 08:23 PM   #2
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i dont understand either, lets invent a time machine and go back to the 50s

The Rolex just released the 114060 submariner. Believe it or not. All the divers will love this watch.

Super strong lugs, durable ceramics.

This is not a jewelry, Rolex Submariner is the ultimate automatic tool watch.

A tool watch needs to be strong, that lugs are strong.

However one thing I hate is the 4 line on the watch dial. Am I reading a poetry or what?

Just leave it Submariner and depth rating thats it.
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Old 14 April 2020, 08:24 PM   #3
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
Because this is a forum whose primary function is to provide a platform for people to discuss and opine about Rolex watches.
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Old 14 April 2020, 08:38 PM   #4
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i dont understand either, lets invent a time machine and go back to the 50s

The Rolex just released the 114060 submariner. Believe it or not. All the divers will love this watch.

Super strong lugs, durable ceramics.

This is not a jewelry, Rolex Submariner is the ultimate automatic tool watch.

A tool watch needs to be strong, that lugs are strong.

However one thing I hate is the 4 line on the watch dial. Am I reading a poetry or what?

Just leave it Submariner and depth rating thats it.
I am not I diver and I like and own Sub's for more than 30 years. But me neither embrace those fat lugs " that much".
Just my opinion.
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Old 14 April 2020, 08:53 PM   #5
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The lugs of the 6 digits look perfect to me. The design actually harkens back to earlier references.

I think Rolex simply tweaked design cues from these, which is what they've always done ... subtle nuanced changes.

Anyway, I agree, there's something for everyone thankfully and if you think its got ugly lugs, there's a 5 digit out there for you

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Old 14 April 2020, 08:59 PM   #6
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Compare the shape of the current Sub to the current Sea Dweller. The fat lugs on the Sub were just added to make the watch wear slightly bigger. The SD lugs are perfect and you don't get the blocky appearance you do with the Subs.
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
Well without slimmer lugs,alignment points,minute font or colour changes,watch running one or two seconds over or under marketing spec etc.Or if I buy this or that will it go up in value what else has today's Rolex owner going to moan about.
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Lug comparo - Sub vs. GMT. Difference is marginal.
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Old 14 April 2020, 10:07 PM   #9
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and mine is that the latest models have lost their elegance.
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They should have applied a 22mm bracelet to 6 digit references rather than the 20mm bracelet.
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Old 14 April 2020, 10:12 PM   #12
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The lugs of the 6 digits look perfect to me. The design actually harkens back to earlier references.

I think Rolex simply tweaked design cues from these, which is what they've always done ... subtle nuanced changes.

Anyway, I agree, there's something for everyone thankfully and if you think its got ugly lugs, there's a 5 digit out there for you

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Old 14 April 2020, 10:21 PM   #13
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Lug comparo - Sub vs. GMT. Difference is marginal.
I disagree that the difference is marginal. That is like saying a line of red text is insignificant, or difference between a blro mk1/mk2/mk3 is insignificant.
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Old 14 April 2020, 10:34 PM   #14
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A matter of personal preference. I think the six digit submariners are great and I have owned four and five digit submariners.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:02 PM   #15
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
That's exactly my plan... but it would be nice to have the option to get a brand new Sub with slimmer lugs. I'm not a fan of the new 6 digit case on any of the watches, except maybe the DJ and OP, but even then, I think they are a touch fat. So sorry your'e tired of hearing about it. Stop reading forums?
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:05 PM   #16
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My guess is if you could have the lugs from the 5 digits and get all the benefits of the 6 digits (ie. improved bracelet, etc) you would see less complaints....an example of that to me is the SD43. Now, people will always find something to complain about so if it's not the lugs it'll be something else.

IMO it's about the total package, including case and bracelet. I couldn't get over the lugs on my 114060, however slightly taper the lugs and put the watch on a jubilee like the BLRO and I think it looks a lot better.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:06 PM   #17
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I disagree that the difference is marginal. That is like saying a line of red text is insignificant, or difference between a blro mk1/mk2/mk3 is insignificant.
^^^but they are insignificant to the majority of people. This forum is an echo chamber where only here people can wet their pants over a red line of text or a flat four. To the majority, were nuts. Rolex cares most about the majority. They are not going to re design a watch for us, they will do it if it makes business sense.
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Well without slimmer lugs,alignment points,minute font or colour changes,watch running one or two seconds over or under marketing spec etc.Or if I buy this or that will it go up in value what else has today's Rolex owner going to moan about.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:18 PM   #19
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:22 PM   #20
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The lugs of the 6 digits look perfect to me. The design actually harkens back to earlier references.

I think Rolex simply tweaked design cues from these, which is what they've always done ... subtle nuanced changes.

Anyway, I agree, there's something for everyone thankfully and if you think its got ugly lugs, there's a 5 digit out there for you

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Old 14 April 2020, 11:24 PM   #21
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They should have applied a 22mm bracelet to 6 digit references rather than the 20mm bracelet.
Interesting thought Gary I wonder how it would feel with a thicker bracelet?

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My guess is if you could have the lugs from the 5 digits and get all the benefits of the 6 digits (ie. improved bracelet, etc) you would see less complaints....an example of that to me is the SD43. Now, people will always find something to complain about so if it's not the lugs it'll be something else.

IMO it's about the total package, including case and bracelet. I couldn't get over the lugs on my 114060, however slightly taper the lugs and put the watch on a jubilee like the BLRO and I think it looks a lot better.

I agree the slimmer lug profile of the SD43 is beauty for sure, however the lugs of the current Submariner have their appeal, at least to me.

To Gary’s point, I sometimes wonder if the bracelet width of the SD43 contributes to some of the minor discomfort I feel with it on the wrist.

Would a 22 mm work on the current Sub? Perhaps, but then it might suffer from a comfort standpoint. I don’t know Caseback shape aside, a think narrower bracelets in general feel better to me. YMMV
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:31 PM   #23
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Would a 22 mm work on the current Sub? Perhaps, but then it might suffer from a comfort standpoint. I don’t know Caseback shape aside, a think narrower bracelets in general feel better to me. YMMV
I'm with you in that I also prefer a narrower bracelet...I think, for me at least, that's the thing I first notice when I strap a watch on. As long as the bracelet is properly fitted to the wrist I think the weight and size of the watch head can be balanced. With a larger/wider bracelet you are now covering more surface area on the arm and can subtly feel the different in wrist mobility.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:53 PM   #24
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design wise is it me or you people vision the same, I imagine the case and overall design resembles a bulky submarine door.

Over engineered and durable submarine hatch or something like that.

thats why I choice this model.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:56 PM   #25
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I would love slimmer lugs on the newer models, because I have small wrists, and because I don't want to buy an old reference.
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
Maybe because those don’t have the ceramic bezel.
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Old 14 April 2020, 11:59 PM   #27
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Old 15 April 2020, 12:01 AM   #28
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I am just wondering, why people who want slimmer lugs on the sub and GMT II don’t just go for the pre super case models and call it a day?
I’ll tell you why. Because the move to larger lugs was a massive change and perhaps the biggest ever by Rolex at one time. It changed the entire lines of the watch. A circle on square appearance and a bracelet that no longer seamlessly blends into the case, but rather a disjointed and out of proportion hodgepodge of design style for no other functional purpose other than to increase wrist presence. It also took away from the versatility of the watches moving from a tool watch when needed to being inconspicuous when not needed into something that stands out like a sore thumb. That’s why.
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I'm with you in that I also prefer a narrower bracelet...I think, for me at least, that's the thing I first notice when I strap a watch on. As long as the bracelet is properly fitted to the wrist I think the weight and size of the watch head can be balanced. With a larger/wider bracelet you are now covering more surface area on the arm and can subtly feel the different in wrist mobility.
I wish the bracelet didn't taper to 16. It would be a lot more stable if it only went to 18. 16 was probably fine when the lugs were slimmer and the overall weight was less, but if you add weight to the head you should add offsetting weight to the bracelet.

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Everyone has a choice. I for one like the older style more than the chunky new case and the maxidial.

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