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Tools · 17 October 2020, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul7

Can I ask how lug holes are a stronger bracelet connection?

The spring bars pivots on a through hole case are twice the length and half again as thick.

dazooom · 17 October 2020, 07:26 AM

All things being equal, I'd go with the no holes case because the bracelet has solid end links.

Paul7 · 17 October 2020, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

The spring bars pivots on a through hole case are twice the length and half again as thick.

Thanks, I learned something new.

Sjmoore11 · 17 October 2020, 07:57 AM

Holes! Always holes! (Assuming condition is comparable). I really enjoy holes cases for ease of strap changes.

Onikage · 17 October 2020, 08:27 AM

Yes. Strap changes. ..I never did get that Jubilee. So no holes and stick II. I am biased though.

g_luck · 17 October 2020, 08:55 AM

I have both and prefer the holes case. Stronger, classic, and screams tool watch which is what Rolex used to make.

fania123 · 17 October 2020, 09:07 AM

Holes!

DoctorA · 17 October 2020, 09:08 AM

I believe the no holes had a shorter run and I’m biased!

Onikage · 17 October 2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by g_luck

I have both and prefer the holes case. Stronger, classic, and screams tool watch which is what Rolex used to make.

Yeah but no holes screams last of the great GMTs. I sort of completely agree actually but I'm not buying another one!

996marty · 17 October 2020, 12:59 PM

Either it’s a great watch to own

HiDive · 17 October 2020, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul7

Can I ask how lug holes are a stronger bracelet connection?

They are stronger because the pins used have a larger diameter pin to engage the lug and the pin fits deeper into the lug hole. They also make it much easier to remove and install the bracelet. They also make it less likely to put scratches on the watch lugs. I really do not understand why some people do not like the look of them; to me they are not noticeable and make they no difference visually. I like the added security of them. They are not quite as good as screw bars or fixed bars but they are better than the non-drilled lug springbars.

Thankfully Seiko still has enough sense to use them on their sport watches.

doramas · 17 October 2020, 09:13 PM

I prefer with holes

Sshaughn · 20 October 2020, 02:02 AM

Thanks for all the great input, I appreciate it. Have a great week everyone.

Onequik135i · 20 October 2020, 02:26 AM

Case w holes, plus the chamfers are more pronounced with them as well.

faimag · 20 October 2020, 02:40 AM

Get the best condition you can find, regardless of holes.

JP. · 20 October 2020, 03:07 AM

I have 4 five-digit Rolexes. Three of them are K-serials with holes. ExpII is without holes.

Personally, I prefer the holes. But it's not a big deal, really.

mmaggi · 20 October 2020, 03:26 AM

I have no holes (2004) but I could care less.

koryong · 20 October 2020, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sshaughn

Looking at getting a Pepsi 16710 either 2000-2001 with holes or a 2007 without holes. I like the nostalgia look with holes but the no holes looks more refined. Any input would be great. Thanks in advance

Get both ....

jaychief · 20 October 2020, 04:25 AM

I just got a 2002 no holes... like stated they come with solid links...

jrs146 · 20 October 2020, 04:46 AM

I’ve owned both. I don’t think one stands out more then the other. They both have their charm. I ended up keeping the holes case but not specifically for the holes. I guess what I’m saying is if the watch otherwise is good then I wouldn’t hesitate one way or another.

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GEOR · 20 October 2020, 05:43 AM

I have holes and probably prefer no holes since I don’t plan on changing the bracelet but doesn’t really matter!

Jackie Daytona · 20 October 2020, 05:49 AM

No big deal either way really. I prefer the Vatican City model though with the holy case. (Bad joke I get it...)

Like mentioned it’s no big deal, but I occasionally change the strap on one of mine and I really like how easy it is.

Aterth · 20 October 2020, 06:03 AM

No holes!!

G3Z · 20 October 2020, 06:11 AM

Lug holes just for the more classic look.

Nkun · 20 October 2020, 06:33 AM

Either is good

17 October 2020, 08:27 AM	#35
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Yes. Strap changes. ..I never did get that Jubilee. So no holes and stick II. I am biased though. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

17 October 2020, 09:08 AM	#38
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	I believe the no holes had a shorter run and I’m biased! __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

20 October 2020, 02:02 AM	#43
Sshaughn 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Scott S Location: California Posts: 208	Thanks for all the great input, I appreciate it. Have a great week everyone. __________________ ♛ ROLEX ♛

20 October 2020, 02:26 AM	#44
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,573	Case w holes, plus the chamfers are more pronounced with them as well. __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

20 October 2020, 03:07 AM	#46
JP. "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Juho Location: Finland Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 1,914	I have 4 five-digit Rolexes. Three of them are K-serials with holes. ExpII is without holes. Personally, I prefer the holes. But it's not a big deal, really. __________________ My Luxury Watch Reviews Blog

17 October 2020, 07:26 AM	#32
dazooom "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Watch: Submariner 16800 Posts: 179	All things being equal, I'd go with the no holes case because the bracelet has solid end links.

17 October 2020, 07:57 AM	#34
Sjmoore11 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Ontario Watch: Exp II - old & new Posts: 694	Holes! Always holes! (Assuming condition is comparable). I really enjoy holes cases for ease of strap changes.

17 October 2020, 08:55 AM	#36
g_luck "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 104	I have both and prefer the holes case. Stronger, classic, and screams tool watch which is what Rolex used to make.

17 October 2020, 09:07 AM	#37
fania123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PHILA Posts: 1,725	Holes!

17 October 2020, 12:59 PM	#40
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 4,182	Either it’s a great watch to own

17 October 2020, 09:13 PM	#42
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	I prefer with holes

20 October 2020, 02:40 AM	#45
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	Get the best condition you can find, regardless of holes.

20 October 2020, 03:26 AM	#47
mmaggi Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: Michael Location: Nassau County, NY Watch: 16710 Posts: 889	I have no holes (2004) but I could care less.

20 October 2020, 04:25 AM	#49
jaychief "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: UK Watch: Deepsea Posts: 669	I just got a 2002 no holes... like stated they come with solid links...

20 October 2020, 04:46 AM	#50
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	I’ve owned both. I don’t think one stands out more then the other. They both have their charm. I ended up keeping the holes case but not specifically for the holes. I guess what I’m saying is if the watch otherwise is good then I wouldn’t hesitate one way or another. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

20 October 2020, 05:43 AM	#51
GEOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 38	I have holes and probably prefer no holes since I don’t plan on changing the bracelet but doesn’t really matter!

20 October 2020, 05:49 AM	#52
Jackie Daytona 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Brian Location: Nashville Watch: 16750 Posts: 6,618	No big deal either way really. I prefer the Vatican City model though with the holy case. (Bad joke I get it...) Like mentioned it’s no big deal, but I occasionally change the strap on one of mine and I really like how easy it is. __________________ 16750 \| 6516(wife’s) \| 126334 \| 16570 \| SBGA413 \| SRPE33 \| 126610LV

20 October 2020, 06:03 AM	#53
Aterth Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Posts: 159	No holes!!

20 October 2020, 06:11 AM	#54
G3Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Omega, Rolex etc.. Posts: 316	Lug holes just for the more classic look.

20 October 2020, 06:33 AM	#55
Nkun Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: US Watch: Don't Look Twice Posts: 170	Either is good

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