Is it the color Green? Or just being different.

[m j b]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

But can you tell me; what is the reason that makes this watch so coveted (and more expensive).

Maybe you can tell me this: why does a guy with nearly 17,000 posts have to ask this question?

I'll answer your question though: marketing.

[RJRJRJ]

I bought mine back when they were available in the case. I'd never paid much attention to them, or even seen one in person. But when I saw it sitting there in real life it was very much a "well I'm definitely buying that" moment.

[Max 66]

I understand that someone might love green, but behind this success there is, as usual, an expected economic return.
Why did little people buy the IWC Portugieser green dial or the Moser green dial and prefer the other dial colors? Because everyone knows that if you need to sell a green watch you have less potential buyers; but because with Rolex it works exactly the other way around, everyone wants the green Rolex because they are within the list of the most sought after Rolex. 
On top of this, the more a Rolex is hard to get the more it is requested.

[Tensai]

It's amusing to see people try to convince themselves they like a green watch, because it's worth a few k more than than usual sub. But let the hype machine play on!

[JParm]

Originally Posted by Tensai

It's amusing to see people try to convince themselves they like a green watch, because it's worth a few k more than than usual sub. But let the hype machine play on!

What a ridiculous comment.

I've had mine since 2016, when you could buy them at any AD (I purchased mine pre-owned for $7600). I like variety in my collection, as you can see in my signature line, and the Hulk has ALWAYS interested me more than the regular sub.

Let's keep an open mind around here. General statements like above are the sort of stupid comments that get on my nerves.

[Uggi]

Originally Posted by Tensai

It's amusing to see people try to convince themselves they like a green watch, because it's worth a few k more than than usual sub. But let the hype machine play on!

Pah - you've just convinced yourself you don't like green watches.
If you knew yourself better you'd realise this.

[Mystro]

I purchased my LVc before the hype (below msrp). I took shots on the forum that it was ugly, etc...
That said, it is a lot of green. You must like the color green a lot. If you do, the watch will never leave your wrist. I personally got tired of so much green as I am more of a blue or black fan. It a personal style preference. I also had a issue with the milky green ceramic bezel. I always felt the ceramic green should have been darker.
I will never see the LVc as anything more than a green Sub. While owning my LVc and the hype starting to churn prices upward, I deemed it not a $10k watch. I cant see it being worth more than $10k when I bought it below msrp in the low $8k. Its the same movement as the black model. I need more than a color change to pony up significantly more money on a Rolex. I feel the same about the Daytona, SkyDweller, etc....

[Sothy]

To each their own. Some of the green dials (olive dial day dates, Daytona dial, etc.), look fabulous to me. Some of the green ones not as much (I honestly prefer the new LN sub to the LV sub; but if it were available, I’d definitely want the shade of green of the original Kermit (if the ceramic bezel were that shade I mean)).

So I find myself liking some hyped colours (I think that the Batman doesn’t look as good as the Pepsi), but I also prefer the look of yellow gold (generally less popular these days it seems) to other precious metals. Hopefully my tastes change and I end up liking all of the “less desirable” models one day!

[Sothy]

ps. Mystro, amazing pic as always! (I still remember your cigar/two tone GMT pics, they were great too)

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by m j b

Maybe you can tell me this: why does a guy with nearly 17,000 posts have to ask this question?

I'll answer your question though: marketing.

Good point...

[fishingbear]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

I bought mine back when they were available in the case. I'd never paid much attention to them, or even seen one in person. But when I saw it sitting there in real life it was very much a "well I'm definitely buying that" moment.

Same experience with the six digit. I bought the 16610LV at MSRP from my AD back in 2004 just because it was a 50th anniversary Rolex Sub.

[1995akcoop]

Definitely more hype of the color than actual love for the color. I’d liked to think owners of the green sub own nothing else green lol


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[peterpl]

Originally Posted by 1995akcoop

Definitely more hype of the color than actual love for the color. I’d liked to think owners of the green sub own nothing else green lol
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That was me!!! LOL

I tried to love the Hulk many times. Just could not to be honest. And you are 100000% correct I didnt have a single other green thing at all. Only the green sub when I used to own it.

To me the Hulk you must really really really like green to love this watch over a long period of time. That and the bezel pastel color is not so nice. The dial is wonderful though.

[Singslinger]

Originally Posted by Freespeach

I must be a butt man...cause I love to stare at my hulk.
The starburst green dial....mesmerizing.

Yup me too. The Hulk is so much nicer than the new version that has a green bezel and black dial.

[Andad]

We need to be specific about which LV we are discussing?

The original SubDate LV is the 16610lv.

We have had two more ceramic versions since then.
One is all too green and the other is sort of green.

Can we find names for the new guys so that we can identify them and not confuse them or use model numbers?

Paul’s first post doesn’t tell me the Rolex he is referring to.

Hey Paul, which one was it?

I don’t think it was this LV or LN?

[Manu74]

Love the green, every time I look at the Hulk dial, it feels like a special watch IMHO.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Andad

We need to be specific about which LV we are discussing?

The original SubDate LV is the 16610lv.

We have had two more ceramic versions since then.
One is all too green and the other is sort of green.

Can we find names for the new guys so that we can identify them and not confuse them or use model numbers?

Paul’s first post doesn’t tell me the Rolex he is referring to.

Hey Paul, which one was it?


I don’t think it was this LV or LN?

126610 LV versus the 126610 LN.

Personally I like the LN, nothing against the green, but I just like the look of the black bezel better... it is definitely more subtle. When I was telling TRFers I got a new sub, (126610) everyone was asking (excitedly) “Did you get the Green!?” When I explained it was the LN, it seems there was a lot of disappointment, like I shouldn’t even have bothered Hey, I was (am) excited about my new sub, if your sub has to have the green bezel, then more power to you, I just was trying to understand was it because it’s the color green, or just because it’s different. Like I was asking, would a Red-Bezel Submariner be sought-after as much as the 126610LV?

[Goin2drt]

For me I am a Sub date fan first and foremost. I liked the looks of the green so I got one at MSRP. Honestly I would have never bought it for more as to the original post don’t feel just the color is worth much more than the black. Honestly if they came out with a SS blue one I would like that as well but again wouldn’t pay much more than a black one.

I for one could care less about the value, the limited production etc etc. I buy, I wear, I don’t sell.

[YGRLX]

I passed on the Hulk more times than I can remember. I also guarantee that most first time Rolex buyers who coveted the Hulk or the new Green bezel have originally longed for the black LN when they decided “hey I’m going to save for a new Rolex” 5 or 10 years ago.

[Manamana]

I feel it's a Rolex policy now to limit production numbers of a reference in each model and make the rest more available. GMT Pepsi vs Batgirl, Sub Kermit vs Black, Sky Dweller Blue vs other colors, DJ Blue vs other colors, Explorer Polar vs Black, Green Daytona vs Other colors, OP41 Turquoise vs others, even the black Daytona is more available than white

[Brny11]

The Sub in general is iconic. There is always that. The LN is on many wrists where the LV is a bit more speciality and “rare” (not rare per se but less common). Combine iconic with specialty and you typically have a winner.

Also, if you haven’t seen the 116610lv in person, I’d respectfully tell you to hold your judgement. In person it ranges from very subtle, to very vibrant and everywhere in between depending on the lighting situation. The sun burst dial, regardless of color, is always an incredible aesthetic.

I always wondered about the hypocrisy with fat lugs being an issue on 116610ln and 114060 but not the GMTs or hulk. I now realize the interesting attributes on the latter pieces just out shine the “negatives” and the hulk really is just a winner all the way around.

I do think the “hype” drives prices up and greys know exactly what they are doing in the current market. I personally don’t have any interest in a hulk and would much prefer the 126610lv. Regardless, I fully understand the overwhelming interest in it.

[subx]

Green is Rolex's brand color. end thread.

[prnceofpersia23]

Pretty much any Rolex with green (except the GMT LN) trades higher than its counterparts.

Green is a color many like (myself included), which I find quite versatile being in the middle of the color spectrum.

Green is the corporate color of Rolex.

Green is often associated with the celebration of a model line on its anniversary.

Hype is definitely a factor, but not the sole driver imho. In the case of the Sub;

It provides some variation in color to the ubiquitous black dial/black bezel.

I assume it's production numbers are far less than the LN.

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[upsidedownbelt]

All luxury brands sell “exotic” “exclusive” colors/patterns of their regular items at a large markup. People pay a premium to have the exclusivity of not your run of the mill black sub.

[coloradojs]

Originally Posted by subx

Green is Rolex's brand color. end thread.

Maybe simplistic , but I agree to a point! Mine should be in any day. In trying it on several times it is much closer to the Rolex (cadmium) green than a forest green like it does on their website. Knowing their color limitations with the cerachrom bezels I’d say this is as close as they can get to their intended Rolex green on a watch. I really like and appreciate that as it makes it feel special since it is literally the color of one of the most iconic brands in the world.

Watching a golf event? Rolex Green. F1? Rolex Green. Then you look down at your watch. Rolex Green. Kinda neat in my eyes.

That being said I don’t believe it makes it more important or valuable , but I do think it makes it more unique as a collector due to it’s color association with the brand and it’s relative scarcity.

[Benzsiam]

Originally Posted by Tensai

It's amusing to see people try to convince themselves they like a green watch, because it's worth a few k more than than usual sub. But let the hype machine play on!

What a laughable comment!

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by YGRLX

I passed on the Hulk more times than I can remember. I also guarantee that most first time Rolex buyers who coveted the Hulk or the new Green bezel have originally longed for the black LN when they decided “hey I’m going to save for a new Rolex” 5 or 10 years ago.

Right, so "more times than you can remember" you have passed on making a cool and easy $9K over night. Man you must have A LOT of disposable income to pass on making that kind of easy money.

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by Tensai

It's amusing to see people try to convince themselves they like a green watch, because it's worth a few k more than than usual sub. But let the hype machine play on!

No convincing here. I like green. I like black. As an owner of both I will be the first to say I would not buy a hulk for that much more than a black one (and I didn't). I do think it is hype. The ONLY thing that maybe makes it worth "a little" more is production numbers. Pretty much anything that is produced in less quantities is usually worth a little more that its exact counter part that is not limited. Cars etc etc.

[Benzsiam]

Originally Posted by Brny11

The Sub in general is iconic. There is always that. The LN is on many wrists where the LV is a bit more speciality and “rare” (not rare per se but less common). Combine iconic with specialty and you typically have a winner.

Also, if you haven’t seen the 116610lv in person, I’d respectfully tell you to hold your judgement. In person it ranges from very subtle, to very vibrant and everywhere in between depending on the lighting situation. The sun burst dial, regardless of color, is always an incredible aesthetic.

I always wondered about the hypocrisy with fat lugs being an issue on 116610ln and 114060 but not the GMTs or hulk. I now realize the interesting attributes on the latter pieces just out shine the “negatives” and the hulk really is just a winner all the way around.

I do think the “hype” drives prices up and greys know exactly what they are doing in the current market. I personally don’t have any interest in a hulk and would much prefer the 126610lv. Regardless, I fully understand the overwhelming interest in it.

Great comment!

[Wcdhtwn]

I think people are hoping the Cermit will someday have a crazy valuation like the Kermit does today. So they are willing to pay more for it... and hoping it’s production numbers are less than the LN.

If the Kermit had a red bezel and was similarly successful as the green (granted it wouldn’t be called the Kermit) and the 126610 also had a red bezel people would be going crazy for it. IMO the color green has little to do with it.