Tudor BB Pro thickness

[khalifam]

Compared with 126710

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[MHB]

My Pelagos FXD has a L2L of 52mm. It doesn't wear that large by any means.

I would try the BB Pro on before dismissing it.

[Av8or3]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Tudor watches are crippled to avoid cannibalising Rolex watches.

Couldn't have said it any better. I believe they purposely hold it back so that you will still aspire to own a Rolex.

[14060man]

Not sure how many folks aspire to own a Rolex Explorer II 226570. Rolex killed off the Explorer II for many when they injected it with steroids back in 2011.

Now the 42mm Explorer II is just another oversized-watch-bandwagon-jumpin’, contrived-scarcity-confected, multi-year-waitlisted, pawn-shop-flipped-price-bubble-inflated, $1,000-annual-price-list-increasin’, horological train wreck.

[Tricolore66]

I find the 42mm ExpII wears quite small and is exceptionally comfortable, even on my smallish wrist. I think it wears far smaller to the Tudor GMT is also wear.

[SAAS]

I wish it was thicker. My AD told me I’m in for a wait on a bracelet but a strap could happen quickly. The bracelet with T clasp is worth the wait.

Would be great if everyone got out of line to focus on skinny watches.

[Cloud Palms]

its a cool watch but the problem with doing all these homage watches is that when the actual watch its mimicking is only reasonably more expensive then I'd rather go for that one. This 16570 goes for around 6-7k, even the 216570 can be had for around 10-11k.

I'm a big Tudor fan, i have the panda Chrono which the Rolex version is 50k plus and the GMT, which 16710 is around 15k and 126710BLRO is 27k. For these, buying a homage version is an easier call.

But whats next from Tudor, a lightning bolt seconds hand?

[GBD]

I really like the Pro overall. Sure it could be thinner, bit it actually doesn't look too thick visually, to my eye. Plus, the t clasp will help it stay put with a comfy fit. I'm not crazy about fauxtina, but even that doesn't look too egregious.

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[csong825]

Originally Posted by Cloud Palms

its a cool watch but the problem with doing all these homage watches is that when the actual watch its mimicking is only reasonably more expensive then I'd rather go for that one. This 16570 goes for around 6-7k, even the 216570 can be had for around 10-11k.

I'm a big Tudor fan, i have the panda Chrono which the Rolex version is 50k plus and the GMT, which 16710 is around 15k and 126710BLRO is 27k. For these, buying a homage version is an easier call.

But whats next from Tudor, a lightning bolt seconds hand?

Where can you buy a 16570 for $6-7k?


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[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by scurfa

It has the look of the vintage explorer and the new crown goes really well


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The new crown is amazing, I love how it looks and how big it is.

I'm positive the regular BB58 will get the new updated T-style clasp (from the bronze boutique model and on this BB pro) and hopefully this bigger crown as well.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by csong825

Where can you buy a 16570 for $6-7k?


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Yea, cheapest i see on chrono24 is $8400, so more than double the bb pro on bracelet . With that said, I’d rather pay double for a 16570 than the bb pro (the thickness of the *case* kills it for me)


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[Kram In Oz]

The thickness of this Tudor is the main reason why I'd never buy one. I find 13mm borderline too much on my 22cm/8.7" wrist.

[14060man]

The 3570.50 Speedmaster moonwatch and 1680 Submariner are both about 14.5 mm in thickness. And many folks consider them to be classic references.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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Great pics, thanks for sharing.

Did you buy it?

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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Very nice! How big is your wrist?


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[khalifam]

It's fine folks

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[GW44]

Beautiful watch and pics. Enjoy your new BB Pro!

Tudor nailed this new release and can’t believe all the negative forum comments (from those that have not tried it out) on the case thickness.

[yngshr]

Originally Posted by johnwigan

Tudor watches are crippled to avoid cannibalising Rolex watches.

Crippled or just built cheaper? I mean, look at the actual costs of the watches compared to one another. Of course the Tudor BB Pro is "gimped" - it costs (less than) half the price (well, at MSRP) of the Explorer II. The Black Bay costs less than half the price of a Submariner.

When you price the Tudors out versus other watches in a similar price range, I don't find them to be all that far off when you compare something like Rolex and another brand in a similar price range.

Basically, you get what you pay for.

[Cloud Palms]

Originally Posted by yngshr

Crippled or just built cheaper? I mean, look at the actual costs of the watches compared to one another. Of course the Tudor BB Pro is "gimped" - it costs (less than) half the price (well, at MSRP) of the Explorer II. The Black Bay costs less than half the price of a Submariner.



When you price the Tudors out versus other watches in a similar price range, I don't find them to be all that far off when you compare something like Rolex and another brand in a similar price range.



Basically, you get what you pay for.

Crippled, not even Rolex build cost is even half of what they're asking for. Tudor purposely makes these tweaks strategically to not upstage big brother. They don't want to even give one dollar from big to little brother, even though I think it benefits both brands to make the best watch as could be. Nobody buying a Tudor is not going to not want a Rolex later.

For example you can't tell me it costs more to make a non-rivet bracelet than a rivet one, yet they took away the non-rivet bracelet for almost all their models. Or make a pelagos in SS rather titanium.

Even cheaper brands can do thinner movements and Tudor proven they can with the bb58 which costs the same.

[Cloud Palms]

Originally Posted by GW44

Beautiful watch and pics. Enjoy your new BB Pro!



Tudor nailed this new release and can’t believe all the negative forum comments (from those that have not tried it out) on the case thickness.

It's a good watch but I just don't see much improvement from the GMT other than hour markers. It's a bit thinner than the GMT but still thicker than the Chrono.

When they call something a "Pro", I expect there to be significant improvements not just making a homage in the same style as others non pro. Just name it the black bay steel GMT I'd have less issue.

Don't get me wrong it's a good buy at $4k, I love Tudors in that you can beat them up, look great with scratches, not worry about getting robbed etc, but so is an exp2.

[14060man]

Originally Posted by Cloud Palms

its a cool watch but the problem with doing all these homage watches is that when the actual watch its mimicking is only reasonably more expensive then I'd rather go for that one. This 16570 goes for around 6-7k, even the 216570 can be had for around 10-11k.

I'm a big Tudor fan, i have the panda Chrono which the Rolex version is 50k plus and the GMT, which 16710 is around 15k and 126710BLRO is 27k. For these, buying a homage version is an easier call.

But whats next from Tudor, a lightning bolt seconds hand?

The Black Bay Pro is modeled after the 1655—not the 16570. Reputable sellers price the 1655 at $26,000.

https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/2...39347436126283

The crazy pricing of the 1655 is due in part to the false association with Steve McQueen and the lower production numbers. I have yet to see a photo of Steve McQueen wearing a 1655. He wore the 5512 Sub. But sellers gotta sell so they use the false McQueen association to jack up the price of the 1655s.

Let’s say you drop $26k on a 1655. Then you have a vintage safe queen with non-functional tritium, and it probably has been over polished within an inch of its life. Imagine missing chamfers and spring bars sticking out of the lug holes because so much steel has been polished off the lugs over the decades! And the 1655’s 12 hour hand cannot be set independently from the 24 hour hand. That’s because Rolex didn’t introduce the independent GMT set innovation until the 1980s. From a practical standpoint, the Black Bay Pro bests a vintage 1655 in every way other than Rolex value appreciation, brand cachet and wabi.

While the new Black Bay Pro’s GMT hand won’t pass the “wiggle test” when jumping the 12 hour hand (unlike all 3186 and later Rolex movements), it’s still a more honest interpretation of the 1655 than the 42mm 226570. The 1655 had a matte dial and was bereft of flashy white gold hour surrounds. Same with the Pro!

[Cloud Palms]

Originally Posted by 14060man

The Black Bay Pro is modeled after the 1655—not the 16570. Reputable sellers price these at $26,000.

https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/2...39347436126283

You need to be comparing the current Tudor version with the current Rolex version, not the absolute most rare and valuable version of that watch from decades ago. It would be like comparing the Chrono with one of the Paul Newman's.

[14060man]

Originally Posted by Cloud Palms

You need to be comparing the current Tudor version with the current Rolex version, not the absolute most rare and valuable version of that watch from decades ago. It would be like comparing the Chrono with one of the Paul Newman's.

It’s not like you can walk into an AD and buy a 226570 42mm Explorer II. Manufactured scarcity. Waitlist city. Professional flippers buy from an AD and dump these at grey market resellers. Then a $10k MSRP 42mm Explorer II ends up selling for $18k in grey market land because the flippers gobbled them up from the ADs.

[CarlOver]

Decent looking. Too thick though

[Cloud Palms]

Originally Posted by 14060man

It’s not like you can walk into an AD and buy a 226570 42mm Explorer II. Manufactured scarcity. Waitlist city. Professional flippers buy from an AD and dump these at grey market resellers. Then a $10k MSRP 42mm Explorer II ends up selling for $18k in grey market land because the flippers gobbled them up from the ADs.

So get the almost current version that's going for 10-11k grey which is pretty much the same, or get what many prefer in the older 40mm version at 6-8k.

The 226570 isn't as difficult as you'd think even at AD, list up and wait a bit, it's just a new reference which makes it a bit longer, but exp2s we're never that popular. They're starter Rolexes, my first as well.

And Tudor tries to do manufactured scarcity too in it's first year so if the Pro is as good as we hope it to be you shouldn't be seeing it in cases for the first year either, if it's not then you'll see it in 6 months tops. Let's see where the grey prices are at for this in a couple months.

[Lu..]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Believe me the thickness is not a problem, you need to see it, it’s beautiful




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That’s beautiful…congrats….I just came from the Tudor AD and placed an order.

I’m not a fan of the EXP2s…not a fan of the GMT2s…or the Tudor GMT. I want something subdued that doesn’t stand out when I travel, only need 2 time zones and the vintage vibe that the BB Pro oozes is out of this world.

Can’t wait till she’s on my wrist…hopefully sooner than later…

[No SUBctitute]

I loved the idea of a BB58 GMT.

But I was looking for something more with the aesthetics of the Black Bay GMT 41mm or the Rolex GMT 16710.

[nigelUK]

the moaners keep forgetting the crystal is like 2-2.5 mm at a guess ?

Rolex fan boys just hate the excitement & fun of Tudor releases. Hilarious jealousy

[No SUBctitute]

If the BB Pro is going to be like the old 5-digit Explorer II, the bezel looks too busy with the vertical lines.

Even Christopher Ward's new-ish 39mm Sealander GMT looks a little better than the BB Pro, IMHO.

[nigelUK]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

If the BB Pro is going to be like the old 5-digit Explorer II, the bezel looks too busy with the vertical lines.

Even Christopher Ward's new-ish 39mm Sealander GMT looks a little better than the BB Pro, IMHO.

I've heard it all now