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7 April 2023, 10:39 PM | #31 |
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The AD having a say/opinion on what I do with my personal property is a joke. With that being said…. I also hate flippers…. Bit of a pickle
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7 April 2023, 10:43 PM | #32 |
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If you have it, show it. Then have a conversation about it not being a one way street and give you the watch you have requested. Better yet, ask them to let you look in the safe while you are showing them the watch you bought from them. If the watch you desire is in the safe, they must sell it to you. They will not let you look in the safe because this is a one way street when it comes to truthfulness. Depending on how they handle this I would evaluate my relationship with them and my own personal self respect and dignity. If I had any.
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7 April 2023, 10:49 PM | #33 | |
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There is nothing wrong with the AD wanting to ensure you haven't flipped a watch they have previous sold you. My SA has told me they are very sensitive about flippers. In fact, I am high on my AD's list because they know I am a true watch enthusiast and not a flipper and he has told me as such. |
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8 April 2023, 12:31 AM | #34 |
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Sure, why not. I don’t see it being a problem whatsoever! Maybe they don’t know you well and trying to ensure you are not a flipper.
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8 April 2023, 12:42 AM | #35 |
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I told my AD I sold my black ceramic Daytona. It's too similar to my black 116520. He offered me a white Daytona. My AD doesn't cares what you do after purchase. It will depend on relationships and AD policy.
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8 April 2023, 12:53 AM | #36 | |
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8 April 2023, 01:02 AM | #37 |
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Interesting situation. I guess it depends on how you value the relationship and just how symbiotic the relationship is with your AD. If there are no other AD options, then I guess you have no choice but to comply. Although it kind of rubs me the wrong way.
If I sold one of the watches that I got from my AD, he would take it personally and it would definitely impact the relationship down the road. He generally doesn't ask about pieces that he sold me. I suspect that he is way too busy and has too many clients to keep them straight -- thank God! |
8 April 2023, 01:11 AM | #38 |
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Up to you if you want to be the trained seal and do tricks for the AD in hopes you get to spend thousands to put a trinket on your wrist. You have to prove yourself but the AD is free to continually lie about what they have in stock.
Play the games or don't. Those are your choices. |
8 April 2023, 01:16 AM | #39 |
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8 April 2023, 01:30 AM | #40 |
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I have no issue with this whatsoever... I regularly wear watches bought from my AD during my ongoing visits - if it helps assure them I'm a watch hoarder and deters the profiteers I'm all for it.
In the many years I've been buying watches I think I've only sold one... and that was to replace the sold watch with exactly the same model but in a larger size. |
8 April 2023, 01:31 AM | #41 | |
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8 April 2023, 01:40 AM | #42 |
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Each to their own of course but I just cannot understand the posters on here saying they would be offended or annoyed at this request. It literally makes no difference to your life at all. Like I said though everyone is different and that’s what makes this world that bit more interesting.
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8 April 2023, 01:44 AM | #43 |
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I’d do it because I’m a glutton and I want the next watch but good grief, what a tacky request by the AD.
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8 April 2023, 01:50 AM | #44 |
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Complain that AD's sell to flippers and grey dealers, but refuse to help them stop. Makes sense.
I'm not sure what to think actually. I haven't been to an AD except killing time at airports in at least 5 years.. |
8 April 2023, 02:03 AM | #45 |
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I'm typically wearing the watches I purchased from them on rotation but if they asked to see a specific watch, I would have no issue wearing it
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8 April 2023, 02:05 AM | #46 |
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I always bring a note from my mum. It's forged, but they don't know that.
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8 April 2023, 02:10 AM | #47 | |
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If you're bothered that they don't trust you after several times, gently bring it up. But to jeopardize a sale over whatever they might think of you... it's a little silly, no?
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8 April 2023, 02:12 AM | #48 |
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That’s insulting and unprofessional business IMO. I would be incredibly surprised if a respectable AD would ever ask that of a long term customer. A serious AD should be able to discern the flippers from the collectors. Having said that, if you are being asked it’s because they may believe you are a flipper.
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8 April 2023, 02:13 AM | #49 |
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Of course I'd show it to them. Why wouldn't I? I wouldn't just show it to them, I'd wear it into the store to show that it's in use and not sitting in a safe waiting to be sold.
We all complain about people trying to flip watches, about ADs being complicit in it, about our inability to get specific references because they're going to flippers; but, then, when an AD simply asks us to show that we're not flipping watches, we're high and mighty? |
8 April 2023, 02:30 AM | #50 |
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I might have an issue with it, but ultimately if you want to play you have to learn the rules of the game. It's probably different at every AD.
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8 April 2023, 02:34 AM | #51 |
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TSA asked me if I packed my own bag...I canceled my flight, drove home and wrote them a sternly worded letter.
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8 April 2023, 03:07 AM | #52 |
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I think that once you have a financial capability to purchase one or more Rolex or other luxury timepieces you should not have to prove / demonstrate your possession of said items to anyone including an AD. This is not 'a proof of life' situation. IMHO.
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8 April 2023, 03:14 AM | #53 |
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I have a good relationship with my dealer, I've even passed on a couple so I think he understands I'm not a flipper.
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8 April 2023, 03:14 AM | #54 |
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just show them. not a big deal to me, but I get the frustration.
On the surface it does seem like more of the same "AD Games", but if you actually think about it they're ultimately protecting you and trying to get watches in the right hands. |
8 April 2023, 03:17 AM | #55 | |
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For example, I was sold a TT watch once. My SA really wanted to sell me the watch, I told her I'd owned a TT sports watch in the past and I couldn't bond with it. If I buy it there's a really good chance I won't keep it. She straight up told me that she didn't care what I did with that watch, but if she sold me a watch where that would be an issue she'd say so and we'd get on the same page prior to commitment. |
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8 April 2023, 03:18 AM | #56 |
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Nope, it’s my watch and I can do what I wish with it - unless we had a prior agreement limiting my actions.
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8 April 2023, 03:22 AM | #57 |
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Stephen Covey in his "7 habits of highly effective people" says:
"Seek first to understand" I think this is a perfect example of when to consider using this life-tool. So from their perspective: 1. They don't know you well enough to know you are not a flipper. Perhaps you haven't done your part to maintain a relationship, which is what it takes these days to purchase a Rolex. It's simply the economics of luxury consumerism. 2. They don't know how to ascertain from one's tone of voice, word selection, and other factors whether or not you are a flipper. They've been burned in the past. Why would you take it personally if they don't bow down? Why would it make you "feel bad?" Did you do something wrong to feel bad about? No, of course, you didn't. So don't feel bad. ok? By this time, you know very well the state of the Rolex situation - you've been an active member here for the past few years. Does their response really surprise you? They are trying to help you qualify. I think professional selling is simply helping people get what they want and need. They are trying to help you, and yet you are "frustrated." |
8 April 2023, 03:22 AM | #58 |
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I think I would only be triggered if I somehow knew they were selling out the backdoor to flippers. But if they are asking you that, they probably aren't. Still some decent ADs or at least SAs out there it seems. My SAs at least act like they really want to sell my a Rolex haha.
I get the argument that it's your hard earned money... but this is a different animal. |
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