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Old 10 July 2023, 02:51 PM   #31
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I haven’t read a single reply to the OP that doesn’t reinforce my sentiments.
Your post categorizing an entire country as a place you might not come back from comes across as insulting to a lot of Mexicans. It’s a big country with a lot of variety in every aspect including safety. I’m curious what “utopia” you live in. It’s easy to be a keyboard warrior and throw daggers at far away places you only know about from the internet. Someone could make a similar ill-informed comment about NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago, or San Francisco just the same. Perhaps you live on Palm Beach Island or Singapore and never leave the bubble in which I would better understand where this is coming from besides racial bias.

People get their watches stolen in Miami and Las Vegas all the time but no one says to leave your watch at home when traveling there. Yes, DF (district federal) has risks and it will be more risky than the comfort zone of many visitors. But they have Rolex ADs in Mexico City that sell watches. So those watches are moving around town. Mexico City is huge, and Polanco/Roma/Condessa is a lot different than Doctores/Garibaldi in terms of safety.
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Old 10 July 2023, 11:20 PM   #32
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I live in Monterrey, in Nuevo Leon in Mexico and am totally comfortable walking around and wearing some nicer pieces. None are overly flashy though. I definitely wouldn't wear solid gold etc.
Ballsy IMO. I travel to MTY for work and feel pretty sketch being chauffered through Monterrey in an E class or 3 series to get to the gated manufacturing plant complex.

That said, we stay in a hotel in San Pedro near the Bentley dealer and I would have no problems with my Rolex there, though my driver even says don't go even a couple blocks in any direction off the main strip at night, so IDK. Driver said it's the wealthiest county in Latin America, and seems like it could be, but even there I was advised by a local to be careful. Plenty of total babes at the Starbucks there though, lol.
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Old 10 July 2023, 11:23 PM   #33
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Ballsy IMO. I travel to MTY for work and feel pretty sketch being chauffered through Monterrey in an E class or 3 series to get to the gated manufacturing plant complex.

That said, we stay in a hotel in San Pedro near the Bentley dealer and I would have no problems with my Rolex there, though my driver even says don't go even a couple blocks in any direction off the main strip at night, so IDK. Driver said it's the wealthiest county in Latin America, and seems like it could be, but even there I was advised by a local to be careful. Plenty of total babes at the Starbucks there though, lol.
Yes I live in San Jeronimo which is like 5 min away from San Pedro. Both areas are great! :)

Our plant is in Guadalupe, and it's a secured complex + we have onsite security...so nbd.
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Old 11 July 2023, 02:54 AM   #34
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I love seeing these threads made by mostly American members, who whilst being very quick to slate other countries (with Mexico being the fan's favourite) live in a crime ridden metropolitan areas in US, places that most of us Europeans would describe as shitholes...
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Old 11 July 2023, 04:01 AM   #35
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I have no interest in going anywhere in Mexico, never mind wearing a Rolex. Hope you have a good trip, back.
This is like someone saying they have no interest going to NYC or Philadelphia because of things they've read about what goes down in Trenton and Newark, and suggesting that by going to New Jersey you're somehow risking your life. Thousands of people enter Mexico from the US every single day. Similar to what someone else said, I find this comment ridiculous.
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Old 11 July 2023, 04:09 AM   #36
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This is like someone saying they have no interest going to NYC or Philadelphia because of things they've read about what goes down in Trenton and Newark, and suggesting that by going to New Jersey you're somehow risking your life. Thousands of people enter Mexico from the US every single day. Similar to what someone else said, I find this comment ridiculous.
we really comparing nyc to mexico city now? these threads are wild. i get your point but it's not really applicable to nyc and jersey...
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“Mexico City like all of Mexico is very lawless and corrupt. And that’s just the police.” So very true. Mexico has become a failed, lawless, violent narco state, and it’s getting worse year by year. So *don’t* be a naive fool — that’s a good way to get robbed (or much worse) at gunpoint. Wear a cheap Timex beater.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:00 AM   #38
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we really comparing nyc to mexico city now? these threads are wild. i get your point but it's not really applicable to nyc and jersey...
There are some parts of Mexico City that are 100% safer than some parts of NYC. That is why I take issue with these sort of blanket statements thrown over a whole country as being unsafe to visit if one values their life. When you go to CDMX you can stay at the JW or the W hotel in Polanco. You can go dine at Pujol and you can walk there from your hotel wearing a Rolex at night, and you will walk past a Bentley dealership on the way.

Some people may not feel it's worth the risk, but it's safer than walking around the South Bronx near Yankee stadium at night. That is why I hate these zero helpful zero context statements that say an entire city of like 20mm+ people is entirely unsafe. I have been to Mexico City a half dozen times on business, and ridden the subway to f1 and never had a problem. Not saying there's no risk, but this notion that going there is risking life and limb is just plain silly.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:10 AM   #39
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Your post categorizing an entire country as a place you might not come back from comes across as insulting to a lot of Mexicans. It’s a big country with a lot of variety in every aspect including safety. I’m curious what “utopia” you live in. It’s easy to be a keyboard warrior and throw daggers at far away places you only know about from the internet. Someone could make a similar ill-informed comment about NYC, LA, Houston, Chicago, or San Francisco just the same. Perhaps you live on Palm Beach Island or Singapore and never leave the bubble in which I would better understand where this is coming from besides racial bias.

People get their watches stolen in Miami and Las Vegas all the time but no one says to leave your watch at home when traveling there. Yes, DF (district federal) has risks and it will be more risky than the comfort zone of many visitors. But they have Rolex ADs in Mexico City that sell watches. So those watches are moving around town. Mexico City is huge, and Polanco/Roma/Condessa is a lot different than Doctores/Garibaldi in terms of safety.
None of my comments made any mention of crime, never mind race. I simply said I have no interest in going to Mexico, the insinuations are yours.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:11 AM   #40
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“Mexico City like all of Mexico is very lawless and corrupt. And that’s just the police.” So very true. Mexico has become a failed, lawless, violent narco state, and it’s getting worse year by year. So *don’t* be a naive fool — that’s a good way to get robbed (or much worse) at gunpoint. Wear a cheap Timex beater.
people say similar about visiting SF. if you believe everything you read. then you will expect to get mugged and stabbed the second your BART train reaches the city. I am there most days in downtown for work and while there are unpleasant aspects, the notion that you will immediately be killed by a crackhead looking to rob you for $5 is so overblown. And while I am discrete I have zero hesitation wearing 5 and 6 figure timepieces in downtown.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:15 AM   #41
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I have no interest in going anywhere in Mexico, never mind wearing a Rolex. Hope you have a good trip, back.
You wished the OP your hope that he makes it back, suggesting visiting any part of Mexico is a risk to his life. If I have misunderstood than my apologies.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:40 AM   #42
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There are some parts of Mexico City that are 100% safer than some parts of NYC. That is why I take issue with these sort of blanket statements thrown over a whole country as being unsafe to visit if one values their life. When you go to CDMX you can stay at the JW or the W hotel in Polanco. You can go dine at Pujol and you can walk there from your hotel wearing a Rolex at night, and you will walk past a Bentley dealership on the way.

Some people may not feel it's worth the risk, but it's safer than walking around the South Bronx near Yankee stadium at night. That is why I hate these zero helpful zero context statements that say an entire city of like 20mm+ people is entirely unsafe. I have been to Mexico City a half dozen times on business, and ridden the subway to f1 and never had a problem. Not saying there's no risk, but this notion that going there is risking life and limb is just plain silly.
that's a fair point and i agree with your overall point but the majority of tourists won't be roaming around south bronx or into areas of other boroughs that could have threats. i don't know the geography of mexico city but tourists are for the most part very safe in nyc regardless of what happens in adjacent boroughs/states. there's not really such a thing as bad neighborhoods in manhattan unless you go way up north, which tourists wouldn't. so even if east new york is one of the worst neighborhoods in america imo it has no impact on what you'd see when visiting manhattan. from what i've read the criminal activity spreads all over in mexico city, but i've never been so that's all i can go by

also i'm sure it helps if you've been there before and know where to go, so that's kinda my point. in nyc it's fairly straight forward because most people just stay on the island which is fine
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:52 AM   #43
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Such useless posts and I’m still in awe that mods allow such a thing here again and again. If you didn’t know better you would think people with a bit of common sense would use this type of forums because of “Rolex watches” but every once in a while the ignorance appears and you can see that it doesn’t matter if you have/want and expensive watch, ignorance reaches all types of people.
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Old 11 July 2023, 05:58 AM   #44
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that's a fair point and i agree with your overall point but the majority of tourists won't be roaming around south bronx or into areas of other boroughs that could have threats. i don't know the geography of mexico city but tourists are for the most part very safe in nyc regardless of what happens in adjacent boroughs/states. there's not really such a thing as bad neighborhoods in manhattan unless you go way up north, which tourists wouldn't. so even if east new york is one of the worst neighborhoods in america imo it has no impact on what you'd see when visiting manhattan. from what i've read the criminal activity spreads all over in mexico city, but i've never been so that's all i can go by
i would encourage you to go. it's one of my favorite cities to watch f1. stay in polanco, get a reservation at pujol for dinner. go to contramar and get the red and green fish for lunch. have brunch at maximo bistro. stick to roma/condessa/polanco mostly. watch the race at the track. it's world class stuff and your pre conceived notions will be blown away. i've dined al fresco there countless times, yet to be held up! the biggest annoyance for me is that the city is being overrun by ex tech/twitter employees from san francisco living out their severance packages in the high end areas! and don't expect to get lucky at Ultra Jewels, the Rolex AD, unless you're keen to bundle bundles there.
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Old 11 July 2023, 08:09 AM   #45
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I’ve gotten to the point where I try and generally avoid these threads because of what they become.

In my opinion almost anywhere is safe if you know the area and practice awareness. It’s a watch; a wrist accessory nothing more and 99% of people don’t care what is on your wrist. Risk exists to an extent everywhere to specify or call MX any worse than many places (places within the US included) is not a particularly fair statement. But then again I suppose no generalization is really.

IMO wear it where you want and enjoy it. It’s a wrist watch that’s kind of the point. Just know where you are, who your interacting with, what to avoid, and limit exposure. Just reduce the risk multipliers listed essentially and there really ceases to be much risk. This is especially true in many of the safer areas of a city such as CDMX.

I’ve worn mine in far worse places than CDMX. I spend a lot of time in MX each year. That being said, as it’s the same locations, I tend to have a familiarity of my surroundings quite a bit, and understand what is truly risky, and what is happening in my travels. I’ve worn far flashier things than an Explorer as well (not knocking it in any way great watch) with no one even batting an eye.
(Que the guy that insists he knows all of MX and I’m just lucky)

Additionally the majority of people in MX are far more humble, caring and giving than one would typically experience on their own soil. There are a lot of bad entities don’t get me wrong I’m not oblivious, but the generalizations of a whole country are wrong indeed.
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Old 11 July 2023, 12:07 PM   #46
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Lots of negative comments on this but I say if you must ask then you probably shouldn't wear it. I've been multiple times and have never once not worn any of my watches. The place you will be staying is a nicer part of the city and usually lots of tourist and very friendly area. I live in LA and I feel more uneasy at times wearing my watches here than while traveling. Good luck out there and enjoy a very special city.
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Old 11 July 2023, 01:22 PM   #47
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You mean... by Mexican standards? Because it is most certainly a high crime city where I would never wear a Rolex, a watch that represents many months of salary for the average person, while walking around the streets https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Mexico-City

It basically makes you a walking, and relatively easy payday, with low chance of reprisals for the thief.

Some of the members of this forum (I'm guessing mostly boomer generations) appear to be delusional about real-world risks just because so far they didn't get burnt. I hope it doesn't get them in serious trouble one day.

It should be nothing but common sense to not make yourself a juicy target in countries where human life is cheap and where people are routinely kidnapped, tortured and/or killed.
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I’ve gotten to the point where I try and generally avoid these threads because of what they become.

In my opinion almost anywhere is safe if you know the area and practice awareness. It’s a watch; a wrist accessory nothing more and 99% of people don’t care what is on your wrist..
Another naive person who lacks awareness and self-preservation instincs!
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Old 11 July 2023, 09:38 PM   #49
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I have the same model. Two types of people will recognize it: watch enthusiasts like us and folks who target higher end watches for profit. If you even have to think twice about who’s watching you or whether to roll your sleeve up in a crowded area, why bother? Leave it home and enjoy your trip.
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Another naive person who lacks awareness and self-preservation instincs!
Edit:Called it before the response essentially. I believe you missed the context of a lot of what was said
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Another naive person who lacks awareness and self-preservation instincs!
what are you talking about? His comments were spot on.

I've travelled all around Europe. I find Amsterdam and London as one of the safest cities, been to Barcelona and no one tried to chop off my hand and you know why? Because of there are some very simple rules to follow - blend in, don't stand out, act like local and nothing will happen. I can spot American from 100 meters, any thief will spot his prey from half a kilometre away, because some of you stick out like sore thumb.
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For me I’d be staying away from Mexico City with a watch that would clearly stand out……why take the risk?
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Wouldn't even risk a £10 Casio in Mexico City. Wander in to the wrong area and your done for..!!
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what are you talking about? His comments were spot on.

I've travelled all around Europe. I find Amsterdam and London as one of the safest cities, been to Barcelona and no one tried to chop off my hand and you know why? Because of there are some very simple rules to follow - blend in, don't stand out, act like local and nothing will happen. I can spot American from 100 meters, any thief will spot his prey from half a kilometre away, because some of you stick out like sore thumb.
Amazingly easy to spot a European in Florida.
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Amazingly easy to spot a European in Florida.

Could be that someone who is aware of his surroundings, doesn’t wear khakis, polo shirt or beige sweater, isn’t as loud as train whistle sticks out as a sore thumb in Florida. But then again is Florida considered as a criminal hotspot of the world?
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To me it really depends where someone is going and probably more importantly, for how long and how well they can blend in.

A week and you look like a fish out of water that doesn't know the language or culture? Leave it at home, you look like a mark.

6+ months and you know how things work and can speak the language a bit such that you blend in? I'd be more inclined to take it, but still be smart about when and where I wear it.
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