Rolex vs AP

[bio guyver]

2nd enough for rolex that all the people who knows about watches and people who don't know about watches they know one high end luxury brand watch roooooooooooolex

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

would you get more AP owners in the AP forum? definitely. but there seems to be no shortage of both so far here. and i still don't understand why by starting the thread here, you feel the OP has asked for the opinions of "armchair experts".

My point is to avoid "armchair experts" and go to people who have real ownership experience.

[Islatate]

Originally Posted by kneedeep

Thank goodness for options. It'd be a very boring watch world if we all had to buy and wear the same thing.

I'll drink to that sentiment!

[tmehanna]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

You would post on the AP forum: greater likelihood that AP owners also own Rolex, than Rolex owners owning AP.

Originally Posted by FremStar

False statement... There is absolutely NOTHING special about both brands. Offline the tally of Rolex owners that comb this forum that don't post also own a handful of AP, Patek, JLC watches. Don't let this specific forum taint your thought process... i'm saying this as I have read tons of your post throughout the years yet never responded to you directly...

I see nothing wrong with the original statement. There is indeed more likelihood of AP owners owning a Rolex than the other way around. Not that one brand is good or better than the other but given the average prices and production numbers of both brands. I am not even going to cite recognition because while any Joe Blow will know Rolex but may not have heard of AP, watch forum members are not the average Joe.

[bio guyver]

And let us be honest if you own a company what is your major issue is to sell more even if you have to reduce the price of the watch or whatever although your watch can be sell in much higher price this is one way to take the market from your competitors after that when you have a lot of customers addicted to your brand then booom increase as you like because they already addicted.

[Tvall13]

Many have mentioned that Rolex is more durable than AP. Have people had reliability and durability issues with AP that they could give examples of? I'm curious as I love both brands and would love to add an AP at some point down the road.

[bio guyver]

Rolex way he he he rolex wins in the end sorry Ap sorry Pp.

[tmehanna]

Originally Posted by Tvall13

Many have mentioned that Rolex is more durable than AP. Have people had reliability and durability issues with AP that they could give examples of? I'm curious as I love both brands and would love to add an AP at some point down the road.

While you cannot base reliability record on a few bad experiences, I know someone with a two year old AP ROO that has gone back TWICE to AP in Switzerland for the same repair. It just stops. Personally, I haven't had any reliability issues with the ROO that I once owned for a couple of years though I had to replace the black rubber bezel because it was severely scarred by a mishap that would have probably just left a tiny scratch on a Rolex's bezel. It is my understanding however that the rubber bezel has been replaced by a ceramic in recent years.

[gwalker]

I had an AP ROO and it was sold for one reason and one reason only and I was going through a divorce and needed to liquid some funds. I'll be back to the AP world soon I hope. Rolex is amazing and perfect everyday but AP just seems so much more special. Like someone really cared about crafting that time piece. Rolex sport models are rugged but don't sell the ROO short on ruggedness bc it is. I wear my SD4k daily now but boy do I miss my AP sometimes. I would bet almost all of those that say AP isn't as rugged have never owned one. There are tons of my Rolex quit working threads on here.



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[gwalker]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

Rolex is rolex I'm sure 100% no one can say it not a luxury and high end watch you know one thing if rolex want to buy Ap they will do it and its easy for them but Ap can't afford to buy rolex company if they want to beat up Ap they can do it instantly it's more powerful than Ap who wins in the end rolex they sell more resale value is more than Ap . So they beat Ap any time.

And look at all the company's that Volkswagen owns...... By your definition the VW Beetle must be better than Lamborghini and Bugatti bc VW bought them.......

[tmehanna]

Originally Posted by gwalker

And look at all the company's that Volkswagen owns...... By your definition the VW Beetle must be better than Lamborghini and Bugatti bc VW bought them.......

True but the analogy is even better with the Swatch Group!

[gwalker]

Originally Posted by tmehanna

True but the analogy is even better with the Swatch Group!

What I thought Swatch>Omega...... ROFL

[Rachaphon]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

Rolex is rolex I'm sure 100% no one can say it not a luxury and high end watch you know one thing if rolex want to buy Ap they will do it and its easy for them but Ap can't afford to buy rolex company if they want to beat up Ap they can do it instantly it's more powerful than Ap who wins in the end rolex they sell more resale value is more than Ap . So they beat Ap any time.

Come on now! That's not the topic. That's just trash talking.

[Rachaphon]

In my humble opinion, I think they are made with different purpose in mind. I own both brands and they are amazing. For daily use, I usually go with Rolex, but when I have to go to a fancier events, I wear my AP.

Rolex = Durablilty
AP = Superior finish and exclusivity

It really is a matter of personal preference and it's great if you have both in the collection.

[descartes]

Never "got" AP until I actually tried on a Royal Oak (15300) and the "I have to have this" feeling came over me immediately.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by watchlover135

So many have such different views. Some think AP is a one watch wonder (Royal oak). Some swear by AP as the very best out there, some say AP is on a much higher level than Rolex. Some say Rolex is #1 and always will be. What are your thought as to which wins out in quality, design, reliability, durability, and holding of value ?


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Rolex is #1 in its 'league'...GS,Omega etc

AP PP VC play on a different level

[FTX I]

Not a fan of any AP.

[Baco Noir]

[blue lion]

I've heard AP makes a great watch. I've never seen one I liked.

[Highland Ranger]

Danced with getting a Royal Oak but anecdotal evidence reading here suggests they aren't as robust as a Rolex. For me if there is any chance it fails as a watch, gotta pass. Love the look though.

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[zakattack62]

I love Rolex. It's my favourite brand but Ap is ahead of Rolex and Patek Phillipe is above AP.

[denrusso]

Something I don't understand with the AP ROO is its similarity to the PP Aquanaut/Nautilus. Granted, I'm relatively new, but to me, they look too similar. Once you get into that range then I think 'uniqueness' comes into play and it's just not there for me with AP.

That's me though and I've never tried one on. YVMV and really that all that matters...



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dr

[zakattack62]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

Rolex is #1 in its 'league'...GS,Omega etc

AP PP VC play on a different level

Someone who knows watches. This statement is 100 percent true IMHO.
Although as I have said before Rolex is my favourite brand.

[Rachaphon]

Originally Posted by denrusso

Something I don't understand with the AP ROO is its similarity to the PP Aquanaut/Nautilus. Granted, I'm relatively new, but to me, they look too similar. Once you get into that range then I think 'uniqueness' comes into play and it's just not there for me with AP.

That's me though and I've never tried one on. YVMV and really that all that matters...



Thanks,
dr

They are design by the late Gerald Genta, that's why they are pretty similar. Just a matter of personal preference really between Nautilus and Royal Oak!

[mrchrisx69]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

How much?

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[singe89]

Originally Posted by denrusso

Something I don't understand with the AP ROO is its similarity to the PP Aquanaut/Nautilus. Granted, I'm relatively new, but to me, they look too similar. Once you get into that range then I think 'uniqueness' comes into play and it's just not there for me with AP.

That's me though and I've never tried one on. YVMV and really that all that matters...



Thanks,
dr

As was stated Gerald Genta designed both. He first designed the royal oak in 1972 and then the nautilus in 1976. I'm sure he drew inspiration from his original design.

It's also worth noting that Jean Claude Biver drew inspiration for Hublot from his time spent at AP and the RO.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by Bulldog21

I have never owned an Audemars Piguet, but many of my friends have left Rolex to become part of the AP community. They told me when they left Rolex behind, it was not because they weren't amazing watches, they just felt AP was a notch above. In 2 years time, they are all back to Rolex. At the end of they day, it is in the eyes of the beholder but it seems people always come back to Rolex.

AP. Fad watch at best?

[Saoirse32]

Originally Posted by Bulldog21

Hmmmm..... Not sure all would agree on this statement.

Nope, me neither

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Originally Posted by jhutch View Post
Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end).

[srvrf]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I really think that people exaggerate the fragility of AP and the durability of Rolex. I've said this before but it's all predetermined in our minds and is at least partially influenced by years of Rolex advertising. When you look at a Rolex with scratches like Dr. Tom's Daytonas it's a badge of honor and symbol of Rolex durability. But when you look at an AP with similar scratches it's a sign of AP's fragility. Any mechanical watch can have its problems, but AP, Rolex, and Patek are probably at the pinnacle of watchmaking right now.


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[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by srvrf

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I really think that people exaggerate the fragility of AP and the durability of Rolex. I've said this before but it's all predetermined in our minds and is at least partially influenced by years of Rolex advertising. When you look at a Rolex with scratches like Dr. Tom's Daytonas it's a badge of honor and symbol of Rolex durability. But when you look at an AP with similar scratches it's a sign of AP's fragility. Any mechanical watch can have its problems, but AP, Rolex, and Patek are probably at the pinnacle of watchmaking right now.


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You might have edit this but could have sworn it said "modern day trinity of watchmaking" or something like that, in regards to Rolex, AP and Patek. It's funny though cause I've always heard that the Vacheron Overseas is kind of like a tougher version of a royal oak. Landing its durability somewhere between Rolex and AP. But I guess VC (an original member of the watchmaking holy trinity) didn't make the top of the mountain.

Never owned one myself but have always been interested to.