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watchlover135 · 31 March 2016, 11:40 PM

So many have such different views. Some think AP is a one watch wonder (Royal oak). Some swear by AP as the very best out there, some say AP is on a much higher level than Rolex. Some say Rolex is #1 and always will be. What are your thought as to which wins out in quality, design, reliability, durability, and holding of value ?

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JP Chestnut · 31 March 2016, 11:48 PM

I think that the all metal APs scratch if you look at them sideways. Seeing all those marks on the amazingly finished case would drive me crazy. For that reason alone, Rolex would be my choice for an everyday watch.

Bulldog21 · 1 April 2016, 12:11 AM

I have never owned an Audemars Piguet, but many of my friends have left Rolex to become part of the AP community. They told me when they left Rolex behind, it was not because they weren't amazing watches, they just felt AP was a notch above. In 2 years time, they are all back to Rolex. At the end of they day, it is in the eyes of the beholder but it seems people always come back to Rolex.

WJGESQ · 1 April 2016, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog21

I have never owned an Audemars Piguet, but many of my friends have left Rolex to become part of the AP community. They told me when they left Rolex behind, it was not because they weren't amazing watches, they just felt AP was a notch above. In 2 years time, they are all back to Rolex. At the end of they day, it is in the eyes of the beholder but it seems people always come back to Rolex.

AP. Fad watch at best?

Rocco21 · 1 April 2016, 12:08 AM

Not into aps at all,i appreciate there quality but as far as looks not a fan at all.as far as im concerned rolex are the best looking watches period and in my eyes the most rugged as well.

Baco Noir · 1 April 2016, 12:11 AM

Buy what you like and stop worrying about what others think.

Chadridv · 1 April 2016, 12:13 AM

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

Bulldog21 · 1 April 2016, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

Beautiful

ppalasthira · 1 April 2016, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

Love the grey waffle dial!

I once had a black AP RO 15300. But flipped it cuz of my small wrist. There was a gap around the end links. The bracelet didn't hug my wrist very well. But truly miss it though. The craftsmanship is just on another level.

JP Chestnut · 1 April 2016, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ppalasthira

I once had a black AP RO 15300. But flipped it cuz of my small wrist. There was a gap around the end links. The bracelet didn't hug my wrist very well. But truly miss it though. The craftsmanship is just on another level.

This is something that everyone with a smallish wrist needs to beware of, when it comes to watches with integrated cases and bracelets. These bracelets often don't articulate as well as a regular Rolex/Omega/etc. bracelet. I was rather sad to find that I could never where the Jumbo APRO for this reason. The Patek Nautilus was fine though - trying before buying is smart with this style of watch.

Islatate · 1 April 2016, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

Like a drop dead gorgeous brunette, your Grey Themes makes my knees weak Chadri! Incredible photo bro.

mrchrisx69 · 1 April 2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets.

I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability.

Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style.

She sure is pretty ;)

How much?

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Mainewatchman · 1 April 2016, 12:26 AM

I am in a different boat then most seeing I got my AP first then got my Rolex. When I look at the two there is no comparison which I would choose over the other if I had to keep one, AP! There is not that much that excites me about my Rolex but everything excites me about my AP.

This has been debated many times in the past but one reference keeps coming back to me every time I think about it. Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end).

For the record my AP does not have one scratch! Can't say that about my Rolex.

Bulldog21 · 1 April 2016, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jhutch

Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end).

Hmmmm..... Not sure all would agree on this statement.

Chadridv · 1 April 2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog21

Hmmmm..... Not sure all would agree on this statement.

Yeah I know it sounds ridiculous but Rolex is almost more like Lexus or Acura. Super reliable, well made, meant to be used every day forever.

Mercedes are beautiful and extremely well designed (especially recently IMO), but not exactly 'last forever' material.

joli160 · 1 April 2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

Yeah I know it sounds ridiculous but Rolex is almost more like Lexus or Acura. Super reliable, well made, meant to be used every day forever.

Mercedes are beautiful and extremely well designed (especially recently IMO), but not exactly 'last forever' material.

True, they rust in the showroom.

On topic, the AP models don't do it for me, will never buy one.

Saoirse32 · 1 April 2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog21

Hmmmm..... Not sure all would agree on this statement.

Nope, me neither

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Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end).

Abdullah71601 · 1 April 2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jhutch

I am in a different boat then most seeing I got my AP first then got my Rolex. When I look at the two there is no comparison which I would choose over the other if I had to keep one, AP! There is not that much that excites me about my Rolex but everything excites me about my AP.

This has been debated many times in the past but one reference keeps coming back to me every time I think about it. Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end).

For the record my AP does not have one scratch! Can't say that about my Rolex.

In your experience, how would you compare long term costs of ownership? Is AP as durable as Rolex over time? Are the service costs comparable over time?

Flstfirider · 1 April 2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

In your experience, how would you compare long term costs of ownership? Is AP as durable as Rolex over time? Are the service costs comparable over time?

The very reason I sold my JLC's....Rolex has a much more pleasant service experience.

Le Chef · 1 April 2016, 12:26 AM

There are a number of armchair "experts" here who will slag off any other brand than Rolex, yet they have absolutely zero personal experience with owning another brand. They just happen to have an opinion, based on something someone once said to them, whatever that is worth. If you want the truth ask an owner, not an armchair expert, what their real experiences are. And that applies to any brand from AP to Zenith.

beshannon · 1 April 2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

There are a number of armchair "experts" here who will slag off any other brand than Rolex, yet they have absolutely zero personal experience with owning another brand. They just happen to have an opinion, based on something someone once said to them, whatever that is worth. If you want the truth ask an owner, not an armchair expert, what their real experiences are. And that applies to any brand from AP to Zenith.

Well said

nick c · 1 April 2016, 12:34 AM

Both are great companies

Chadridv · 1 April 2016, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

There are a number of armchair "experts" here who will slag off any other brand than Rolex, yet they have absolutely zero personal experience with owning another brand. They just happen to have an opinion, based on something someone once said to them, whatever that is worth. If you want the truth ask an owner, not an armchair expert, what their real experiences are. And that applies to any brand from AP to Zenith.

Can't disagree with this, except to say... Isn't that kind of what the OP is doing? Who is the "armchair experts"? He didn't walk into the Casio Boutique asking this question. Plenty of Rolex and AP owners around these parts.

Le Chef · 1 April 2016, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

Can't disagree with this, except to say... Isn't that kind of what the OP is doing? Who is the "armchair experts"? He didn't walk into the Casio Boutique asking this question. Plenty of Rolex and AP owners around these parts.

You would post on the AP forum: greater likelihood that AP owners also own Rolex, than Rolex owners owning AP.

FremStar · 1 April 2016, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

You would post on the AP forum: greater likelihood that AP owners also own Rolex, than Rolex owners owning AP.

False statement... There is absolutely NOTHING special about both brands. Offline the tally of Rolex owners that comb this forum that don't post also own a handful of AP, Patek, JLC watches. Don't let this specific forum taint your thought process... i'm saying this as I have read tons of your post throughout the years yet never responded to you directly...

salvadorsantana · 1 April 2016, 01:39 AM

AP: since 1875
Rolex: since 1905

Own both brands, they are different watches. Rolex does have a larger selection of "conservative" not to loud watches over AP and the Royal Oak line, I have had Royal Oak Offshore but meh I prefer the comfort of the Royal Oak or any GMT, Sub, DJII, DD, etc from Rolex. Easy example is when an AP RO SS it is priced the same as a WG, YG Rolex, thats how can you tell why AP stands above Rolex over quality, history, etc. At the end of the day I like both of them.

ROLEX4EvEr · 1 April 2016, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

False statement... There is absolutely NOTHING special about both brands. Offline the tally of Rolex owners that comb this forum that don't post also own a handful of AP, Patek, JLC watches. Don't let this specific forum taint your thought process... i'm saying this as I have read tons of your post throughout the years yet never responded to you directly...

true indeed

tmehanna · 1 April 2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

You would post on the AP forum: greater likelihood that AP owners also own Rolex, than Rolex owners owning AP.

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Originally Posted by FremStar

False statement... There is absolutely NOTHING special about both brands. Offline the tally of Rolex owners that comb this forum that don't post also own a handful of AP, Patek, JLC watches. Don't let this specific forum taint your thought process... i'm saying this as I have read tons of your post throughout the years yet never responded to you directly...

I see nothing wrong with the original statement. There is indeed more likelihood of AP owners owning a Rolex than the other way around. Not that one brand is good or better than the other but given the average prices and production numbers of both brands. I am not even going to cite recognition because while any Joe Blow will know Rolex but may not have heard of AP, watch forum members are not the average Joe.

Chadridv · 1 April 2016, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

There are a number of armchair "experts" here who will slag off any other brand than Rolex, yet they have absolutely zero personal experience with owning another brand. They just happen to have an opinion, based on something someone once said to them, whatever that is worth. If you want the truth ask an owner, not an armchair expert, what their real experiences are. And that applies to any brand from AP to Zenith.

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

You would post on the AP forum: greater likelihood that AP owners also own Rolex, than Rolex owners owning AP.

would you get more AP owners in the AP forum? definitely. but there seems to be no shortage of both so far here. and i still don't understand why by starting the thread here, you feel the OP has asked for the opinions of "armchair experts".

Le Chef · 1 April 2016, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chadridv

would you get more AP owners in the AP forum? definitely. but there seems to be no shortage of both so far here. and i still don't understand why by starting the thread here, you feel the OP has asked for the opinions of "armchair experts".

My point is to avoid "armchair experts" and go to people who have real ownership experience.

1 April 2016, 12:11 AM	#6
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1 April 2016, 12:26 AM	#20
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	Try before you decide There are a number of armchair "experts" here who will slag off any other brand than Rolex, yet they have absolutely zero personal experience with owning another brand. They just happen to have an opinion, based on something someone once said to them, whatever that is worth. If you want the truth ask an owner, not an armchair expert, what their real experiences are. And that applies to any brand from AP to Zenith.

1 April 2016, 01:39 AM	#26
salvadorsantana "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Orlando Watch: AP/R O L E X Posts: 187	AP: since 1875 Rolex: since 1905 Own both brands, they are different watches. Rolex does have a larger selection of "conservative" not to loud watches over AP and the Royal Oak line, I have had Royal Oak Offshore but meh I prefer the comfort of the Royal Oak or any GMT, Sub, DJII, DD, etc from Rolex. Easy example is when an AP RO SS it is priced the same as a WG, YG Rolex, thats how can you tell why AP stands above Rolex over quality, history, etc. At the end of the day I like both of them. __________________ Quality over Quantity

31 March 2016, 11:40 PM	#1
watchlover135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 124	Rolex vs AP So many have such different views. Some think AP is a one watch wonder (Royal oak). Some swear by AP as the very best out there, some say AP is on a much higher level than Rolex. Some say Rolex is #1 and always will be. What are your thought as to which wins out in quality, design, reliability, durability, and holding of value ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 March 2016, 11:48 PM	#2
JP Chestnut Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ann Arbor MI Watch: Rolex Ref 16600 Posts: 3,908	I think that the all metal APs scratch if you look at them sideways. Seeing all those marks on the amazingly finished case would drive me crazy. For that reason alone, Rolex would be my choice for an everyday watch.

1 April 2016, 12:11 AM	#3
Bulldog21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Matt Location: Frisco, Tx Watch: Daytona/BLRO/SkyD Posts: 471	I have never owned an Audemars Piguet, but many of my friends have left Rolex to become part of the AP community. They told me when they left Rolex behind, it was not because they weren't amazing watches, they just felt AP was a notch above. In 2 years time, they are all back to Rolex. At the end of they day, it is in the eyes of the beholder but it seems people always come back to Rolex.

1 April 2016, 12:08 AM	#5
Rocco21 Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Rob Location: Cape Cod Watch: 126660,126600 Posts: 1,324	Not into aps at all,i appreciate there quality but as far as looks not a fan at all.as far as im concerned rolex are the best looking watches period and in my eyes the most rugged as well.

1 April 2016, 12:13 AM	#7
Chadridv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,357	I recently bought my first AP and I'm absolutely in love with it. I trade a Yacht-master 2 to fund it and I have no regrets. I will say though, as much as I love my new AP it has made me appreciate Rolex even more. I have no desire to flip my AP, but I certainly appreciate the ruggedness and reliability of a Rolex. To me Rolex is the perfect combination of beauty, design and reliability. Funny thing though is that in 6 weeks I've worn my AP more than I wore my YM2 after 5 months. Especially on the rubber strap my ROO is just more versatile for my style. She sure is pretty ;)

1 April 2016, 12:26 AM	#13
Mainewatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Jason Location: Maine Watch: AP & Patek Posts: 462	I am in a different boat then most seeing I got my AP first then got my Rolex. When I look at the two there is no comparison which I would choose over the other if I had to keep one, AP! There is not that much that excites me about my Rolex but everything excites me about my AP. This has been debated many times in the past but one reference keeps coming back to me every time I think about it. Rolex = Mercedes (they have lower end and really high end models) AP = Bentley (they have only high end). For the record my AP does not have one scratch! Can't say that about my Rolex.

1 April 2016, 12:34 AM	#22
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Both are great companies

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