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hrlgst · 9 December 2009, 04:49 AM

The words "Swiss Made" appear at the 6 o'clock position on a Rolex dial. Was the single world "Swiss" ever used instead?

Numismatist · 9 December 2009, 04:50 AM

Yes, particularly on older models. My Cellini has only SWISS

hrlgst · 9 December 2009, 04:55 AM

What about on a Submariner made in 2000 with serial number beginning with "P"?

The GMT Master · 9 December 2009, 05:00 AM

It could potentially be a Luminova dial, it sounds to be around the right kind of time, but I don't know for sure

mike · 9 December 2009, 05:00 AM

Yes. As both posts above state, older references did indeed say "SWISS" only and for a time when luminova first appeared said only "SWISS", and,...to muddy the waters even more service replacement dial of superluminova can also say "SWISS" only.

Don't ya love Rolex.

hrlgst · 9 December 2009, 05:02 AM

Thanks so very much to all for your help!!!

Tools · 9 December 2009, 05:03 AM

Rolex changed over from Tritium dials (Swiss T<25) to Luminova dials in the 98/99 timeframe, so you will find P's A's and U's with a "Swiss" dial, which was used until "Swiss Made" started being the standard in ~2000.

Radium dials before 1960 also had Swiss, and some replacement service dials say Swiss, so you may find later serviced watches that way too...

edit:...Yeah...Just like MIke, the faster typist said..........!!! :)

SLS · 9 December 2009, 05:05 AM

Here is a chart that may help.
Luminous Materials

“Swiss”
luminous material Radium
used until 1960
radioactive

“Swiss T - < 25”
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 925 MBq (25 mCi)

“T Swiss T”
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 277 MBq (7,5 mCi)

“Swiss”
luminous material luminova
used from 1998 until 2000
not radioactive

“Swiss Made”
luminous material Superluminova
used from 2000
not radioactive

Scott

Nicko · 9 December 2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

Here is a chart that may help.
Luminous Materials

“Swiss”
luminous material Radium
used until 1960
radioactive

“Swiss T - < 25”
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 925 MBq (25 mCi)

“T Swiss T”
luminous material Tritium
used from 1960 until 1998
radioactive, radioactivity less than 277 MBq (7,5 mCi)

“Swiss”
luminous material luminova
used from 1998 until 2000
not radioactive

“Swiss Made”
luminous material Superluminova
used from 2000
not radioactive

Scott

Thanks for posting this.

SDDS · 9 December 2009, 06:30 AM

good info

1watchaholic · 9 December 2009, 08:13 AM

Very good information to have. Thanks!

volkersports · 15 December 2009, 04:13 PM

Scott, thanks for the chart. My 57 DJ has SWISS. But, since it doesn't glow in the dark anymore, I figure I won't either.

Alcan · 15 December 2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COMBAT

Does anybody know if a 1979 OYSTERQUARTZ should have a dial with the marking
T SWISS MADE T

Thanks in advance, COMBAT

Mine from 1979 had T SWISS T:

9 December 2009, 04:49 AM	#1
hrlgst "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 130	Urgent Question The words "Swiss Made" appear at the 6 o'clock position on a Rolex dial. Was the single world "Swiss" ever used instead?

9 December 2009, 04:50 AM	#2
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Yes, particularly on older models. My Cellini has only SWISS __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

9 December 2009, 04:55 AM	#3
hrlgst "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 130	What about on a Submariner made in 2000 with serial number beginning with "P"? Last edited by hrlgst; 9 December 2009 at 04:58 AM.. Reason: Incomplete question

9 December 2009, 05:03 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,502	Rolex changed over from Tritium dials (Swiss T<25) to Luminova dials in the 98/99 timeframe, so you will find P's A's and U's with a "Swiss" dial, which was used until "Swiss Made" started being the standard in ~2000. Radium dials before 1960 also had Swiss, and some replacement service dials say Swiss, so you may find later serviced watches that way too... edit:...Yeah...Just like MIke, the faster typist said..........!!! :) __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

9 December 2009, 05:05 AM	#8
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Here is a chart that may help. Luminous Materials “Swiss” luminous material Radium used until 1960 radioactive “Swiss T - < 25” luminous material Tritium used from 1960 until 1998 radioactive, radioactivity less than 925 MBq (25 mCi) “T Swiss T” luminous material Tritium used from 1960 until 1998 radioactive, radioactivity less than 277 MBq (7,5 mCi) “Swiss” luminous material luminova used from 1998 until 2000 not radioactive “Swiss Made” luminous material Superluminova used from 2000 not radioactive Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

9 December 2009, 05:00 AM	#4
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	It could potentially be a Luminova dial, it sounds to be around the right kind of time, but I don't know for sure

9 December 2009, 05:00 AM	#5
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Yes. As both posts above state, older references did indeed say "SWISS" only and for a time when luminova first appeared said only "SWISS", and,...to muddy the waters even more service replacement dial of superluminova can also say "SWISS" only. Don't ya love Rolex.

9 December 2009, 05:02 AM	#6
hrlgst "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 130	Thanks so very much to all for your help!!!

9 December 2009, 06:30 AM	#10
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	good info __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

9 December 2009, 08:13 AM	#11
1watchaholic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub Serti Posts: 557	Very good information to have. Thanks!

15 December 2009, 04:13 PM	#12
volkersports Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 132	Scott, thanks for the chart. My 57 DJ has SWISS. But, since it doesn't glow in the dark anymore, I figure I won't either.

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