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scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 09:57 AM

There has been some talk recently about Rolex "taking us for a ride" with the new ceramic bezels. I am only aware of one broken bezel since October and that one was not due to a "brittle" issue with the bezel, but with a "swinging set of keys" hitting it. If you have broken a ceramic bezel, let us know and describe in detail how you did it please. I am curious just how many broken bezels there are out there and exactly how they were broken.

......and if you have a ceramic bezel and have done things to it that you would have thought would have damaged it, but didn't, please explain that in detail too. Based on the responses, we should be able to determine if the ceramic bezels are "brittle" or are strong.

STEELINOX · 1 January 2010, 10:00 AM

Why, whats the point at this very moment to start another thread about what is clearly been "burnt out" or has "ran its course" ??

Playdrv4me · 1 January 2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Why, whats the point at this very moment to start another thread about what is clearly been "burnt out" or has "ran its course" ??

Well, I'm ALL for a thread that aims to get some actual facts on this rather than just pie in the sky theories and accusations toward Rolex. More importantly, I like the idea of finding out instances where someone THOUGHT the bezel SHOULD have broken and it did not as well. The only way this might have been improved a bit is with a poll as well.

scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 10:09 AM

Because JJ's recent thread basically says that the ceramic bezels are "brittle" and maybe shouldn't have even been produced, but the overwhelming majority of ceramic owners, including myself, seem to show that the bezel is extremely tough and worthy. I personally have only heard of one case of a broken bezel in my 3 months of being on TRF and wanted to find out if there were a "lot" more cases that I didn't know about to support JJ's claim.

Basically, I want to get to the bottom of the issue and get some actual numbers and examples to either prove or disprove the "brittle" theory!

scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

Well, I'm ALL for a thread that aims to get some actual facts on this rather than just pie in the sky theories and accusations toward Rolex. More importantly, I like the idea of finding out instances where someone THOUGHT the bezel SHOULD have broken and it did not as well. The only way this might have been improved a bit is with a poll as well.

Good idea, I just started one!

spuds · 1 January 2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Why, whats the point at this very moment to start another thread about what is clearly been "burnt out" or has "ran its course" ??

to be honest (& especially as I've got a £500 deposit down on one) I think it's a good thread & valid question....
as Playdrv4me (what the hell kinda name is that?!) said I'm keen to learn of actual first hand experiences from owners (good and bad) rather than just 'opinions & speculation'.

(incidentally I'd also like to hear of any problems with the bezel becoming detached rather than the insert becoming damaged, as well as any problems experienced with the clasp..... I recollect someone saying the 'joints' were weak or something??)

onkyo · 1 January 2010, 10:57 AM

I am interested in this thread as well.

Who has had their bezel break????

I can tell you I hit mine hard on a metal door and it survived perfectly intact. I do not believe the 'brittle' theory.

scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Why, whats the point at this very moment to start another thread about what is clearly been "burnt out" or has "ran its course" ??

I'm not sure why you say it's a "burnt out" issue anyway. As far as I know, there is very little evidence to support JJ's claim, which he just made in a thread today.

sleddog · 1 January 2010, 11:03 AM

I would just like to add that I am very carefull with all my watches but I have had one hard impact on the ceramic and it stood up to the hit with flying colours!!!! IMO,its a great bezel!!!

Just my short

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scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 11:50 AM

We've yet to get a broken bezel story. Has everybody checked out my poll on the issue?

WWIIBuff · 1 January 2010, 12:39 PM

There was a guy on another forum a few months back that said he broke his bezel. He said it was like $1200 to replace it. That is the only one I know of.

scl6118 · 1 January 2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WWIIBuff

There was a guy on another forum a few months back that said he broke his bezel. He said it was like $1200 to replace it. That is the only one I know of.

$12hundy?!!!!! Damn, that's crazy!

scl6118 · 2 January 2010, 02:19 PM

Ok, there's 20 people that voted in my poll that the ceramic bezel is "brittle" because their bezels are damaged already, but there's not one person that's willing to tell us about how they damaged it? Hmm.........

Sonny Crockett · 2 January 2010, 02:34 PM

That's because it is not brittle ! it is mighty strong, I have banged my new DSSD against the door knob while walking and swung my arm with the watch taking the hit right on the bezel and Nothing not even a scratch. It is solid! thats my opinion. Rolex has not taken anyone for a ride thats not their style

scl6118 · 2 January 2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett

That's because it is not brittle ! it is mighty strong, I have banged my new DSSD against the door knob while walking and swung my arm with the watch taking the hit right on the bezel and Nothing not even a scratch. It is solid! thats my opinion. Rolex has not taken anyone for a ride thats not their style

I totally agree!

Andad · 2 January 2010, 02:40 PM

My Bezel is tougher than your Bezel.

JJ Irani · 2 January 2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

My Bezel is tougher than your Bezel.

Nice pic, Eddie......wearing mine even as we speak!!

petesjag · 2 January 2010, 08:33 PM

I heard about a little old lady in Tallahassee who broke one......lol...
sorry, could'nt help it...
pete

Beto · 2 January 2010, 08:43 PM

loved my gmt ceramic bezel, and will continue to hopefuly

bounce · 2 January 2010, 10:07 PM

When I owned my GMT IIc I smashed it against the metal frame of a water polo goal, expecting to see it in peices I was very pleased to find there was not a mark on it.
I personally think they will stand up to a fair amount of punishment & you would have to be unlucky to break it.

Nods · 2 January 2010, 10:48 PM

I have swung mine against brick walls and heard the grating noise. Not a scratch on the case crystal or bezel. Left a mark on the wall once, but nothing on the watch. The bracelet however does tend to pick up scratches.

browngo1 · 3 January 2010, 12:07 AM

I've had mine for over 9 months now and have also hit it hard a few times. (door handles, metal gates, etc.)

Each time, I too was scared to look, but it is absolutely fine. (And after polishing some minor scuffs from the clasp, it looks almost as good as the day I bought it!)

Regarding the unfortunate accident with the bunch of keys, this was obviously a freak incident and I would bet that it would be very difficult to replicate the damage even using the same bunch of keys!

STEELINOX · 9 January 2010, 01:58 AM

2th Dr · 9 January 2010, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

My Bezel is tougher than your Bezel.

Stunning pic!

bokmeipai · 9 January 2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

I am interested in this thread as well.

Who has had their bezel break????

I can tell you I hit mine hard on a metal door and it survived perfectly intact. I do not believe the 'brittle' theory.

It might have been a fluke. I never had any problems in all my years with my rolex with steel bezel, I always thought the newer ceramic bezel is more harder and virtually indestructible.

bokmeipai · 9 January 2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

wow, thats a nasty hit.

brady · 9 January 2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bokmeipai

wow, thats a nasty hit.

That is a nasty hit. Can you elaborate?

Ebruner · 9 January 2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Is this anything you can attest to first hand, OR is it a pic you pulled of the internet somewhere??

-Eddie

STEELINOX · 9 January 2010, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebruner

Is this anything you can attest to first hand, OR is it a pic you pulled of the internet somewhere??

-Eddie

Here's the episode of the continuing saga of "BEZEL WOES" and how it influences your future with ROLEX !

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...deep+sea+bezel

RFXMM · 9 January 2010, 03:39 AM

If it will break, I can break it. 3 months and nothing yet. My 16710 went through 4 or 5 over the last 8 years. Stay tuned for my "LNIBB ( Like Now I Broke my Bezel )" post.

1 January 2010, 09:57 AM	#1
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	Who has broken a GMT IIC bezel and how did you do it? There has been some talk recently about Rolex "taking us for a ride" with the new ceramic bezels. I am only aware of one broken bezel since October and that one was not due to a "brittle" issue with the bezel, but with a "swinging set of keys" hitting it. If you have broken a ceramic bezel, let us know and describe in detail how you did it please. I am curious just how many broken bezels there are out there and exactly how they were broken. ......and if you have a ceramic bezel and have done things to it that you would have thought would have damaged it, but didn't, please explain that in detail too. Based on the responses, we should be able to determine if the ceramic bezels are "brittle" or are strong. __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

1 January 2010, 10:00 AM	#2
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	Why, whats the point at this very moment to start another thread about what is clearly been "burnt out" or has "ran its course" ?? __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

1 January 2010, 10:09 AM	#4
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	Because JJ's recent thread basically says that the ceramic bezels are "brittle" and maybe shouldn't have even been produced, but the overwhelming majority of ceramic owners, including myself, seem to show that the bezel is extremely tough and worthy. I personally have only heard of one case of a broken bezel in my 3 months of being on TRF and wanted to find out if there were a "lot" more cases that I didn't know about to support JJ's claim. Basically, I want to get to the bottom of the issue and get some actual numbers and examples to either prove or disprove the "brittle" theory! __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

1 January 2010, 11:03 AM	#9
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	I would just like to add that I am very carefull with all my watches but I have had one hard impact on the ceramic and it stood up to the hit with flying colours!!!! IMO,its a great bezel!!! Just my short ....... __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

1 January 2010, 11:50 AM	#10
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	We've yet to get a broken bezel story. Has everybody checked out my poll on the issue? __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

1 January 2010, 10:57 AM	#7
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	I am interested in this thread as well. Who has had their bezel break???? I can tell you I hit mine hard on a metal door and it survived perfectly intact. I do not believe the 'brittle' theory.

1 January 2010, 12:39 PM	#11
WWIIBuff Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Tim Location: Tampa, FL Watch: JLC Master Moon Posts: 35	There was a guy on another forum a few months back that said he broke his bezel. He said it was like $1200 to replace it. That is the only one I know of.

2 January 2010, 02:19 PM	#13
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	Ok, there's 20 people that voted in my poll that the ceramic bezel is "brittle" because their bezels are damaged already, but there's not one person that's willing to tell us about how they damaged it? Hmm......... __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

2 January 2010, 02:34 PM	#14
Sonny Crockett Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fla Watch: TT Yacht Master Posts: 309	That's because it is not brittle ! it is mighty strong, I have banged my new DSSD against the door knob while walking and swung my arm with the watch taking the hit right on the bezel and Nothing not even a scratch. It is solid! thats my opinion. Rolex has not taken anyone for a ride thats not their style

2 January 2010, 02:40 PM	#16
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	My Bezel is tougher than your Bezel. Attached Images __________________ E

2 January 2010, 08:33 PM	#18
petesjag "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,177	I heard about a little old lady in Tallahassee who broke one......lol... sorry, could'nt help it... pete Last edited by petesjag; 2 January 2010 at 08:33 PM.. Reason: sp

2 January 2010, 08:43 PM	#19
Beto Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Toby Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 50	loved my gmt ceramic bezel, and will continue to hopefuly

2 January 2010, 10:07 PM	#20
bounce Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: kent Posts: 234	When I owned my GMT IIc I smashed it against the metal frame of a water polo goal, expecting to see it in peices I was very pleased to find there was not a mark on it. I personally think they will stand up to a fair amount of punishment & you would have to be unlucky to break it.

2 January 2010, 10:48 PM	#21
Nods Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Lionel Wylie Location: Australia Watch: Rolex GMT SS Posts: 277	I have swung mine against brick walls and heard the grating noise. Not a scratch on the case crystal or bezel. Left a mark on the wall once, but nothing on the watch. The bracelet however does tend to pick up scratches.

3 January 2010, 12:07 AM	#22
browngo1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Gordon Location: Irvine, Scotland Watch: SS DJ, SS GMTIIC Posts: 339	I've had mine for over 9 months now and have also hit it hard a few times. (door handles, metal gates, etc.) Each time, I too was scared to look, but it is absolutely fine. (And after polishing some minor scuffs from the clasp, it looks almost as good as the day I bought it!) Regarding the unfortunate accident with the bunch of keys, this was obviously a freak incident and I would bet that it would be very difficult to replicate the damage even using the same bunch of keys! __________________

9 January 2010, 01:58 AM	#23
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	__________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

9 January 2010, 03:39 AM	#30
RFXMM "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Atl Watch: 16710 Posts: 654	If it will break, I can break it. 3 months and nothing yet. My 16710 went through 4 or 5 over the last 8 years. Stay tuned for my "LNIBB ( Like Now I Broke my Bezel )" post. __________________ No I'm not! I had mine removed.

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