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Old 6 January 2010, 12:05 PM   #1
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...here's one for comment...

...me TINKS it comes from da FUGAZAI factory..what say YOU??

...seller: borjlouzir

"Rolex U.S MARINE Submariner Ref.1690. Rolex 1570 movem

Rolex U.S MARINE PROTOTYPE Vintage Submariner Ref. 1690. Rolex Movement 1570. The Watch is in exellent Condition and runs wery good. Ref Number is 1980 and the serial is 3141XXX. Shipping worldwide by Fedex 75$.

On Jan-05-10 at 16:04:41 PST, seller added the following information:

Sorry the Ref. Number is 1690."

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Old 6 January 2010, 12:14 PM   #2
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If this is legit its worth a bit of coin -

U.S. Marines Prototype Rolex

This is one of the most unusual Rolex prototypes I have ever seen. This watch is NOT a Submariner it is an Oyster Perpetual Date, U.S. Marine, Superlative Chonometer that is Officially Certified. Apparently Rolex only made two prototypes which you can see here.


This watch never went into production. It features a jumbo body with a 12-hour graduated revolving stainless steel bezel. In the photo above the bezel looks black but it is steel. This watch has a Triplock winding-crown in the 4 o'clock position which is protected by a massive crown-guard. It features a domed crystal with elongated lugs with detachable hoods. This watch is 44mm in circumference and 58mm from lug-end to lug end.


The two photos above were taken by Hannes who is a co-owner of the German R-L-X.de forum and the photo below was from an Antiquorum Auction and the dials are completely different. Also the one on top has a cyclops lens and the one below does not. The one above has red number on the bezel and the one below has black. The one below has a riveted Oyster bracelet and the one below does not.

The Antiquorum describes the watch below:

"This is the first watch known to be sold at auction, with dial marked "U.S.Marine". The case of this watch is perfectly engineered for heavy military use. Its large size ensures that the wrist will be completely covered, thereby preventing the injuries sometimes caused by violent impacts to smaller watches, the winding crown positioned at 4 o’clock, with its sloping crown guard, affords better protection than the standard configuration of crown and guard at 3. The rounded hoods covering the lugs reduce the possibility of the watch’s becoming caught in equipment and also act as locks for the bezel. The steel rotating 12-hour bezel effectively gives an hour and minute recorder which is invaluable in military excercises. Overall, this watch was designed for only one purpose, to tell time in some of the harshest environments and under the most extreme conditions, the types of activity that are synonymous with the U.S. Marine Corps. According to unofficial information from Rolex, two similar prototypes by Tudor were offered to the U.S. Navy. One of these Tudor prototypes was sold by Antiquorum NY in May 1998, lot 36. The present watch will be illustrated in the upcoming book on Rolex, soon to be published by Guido Mondani."

The watch below pictured below was successfully auction by Antiquorum on April 24, 2004 for 124,500 Swiss Francs which today equals $103,000 U.S.

These U.S. Military Rolex Prototypes are very unusual and interesting looking watches.


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Old 6 January 2010, 12:25 PM   #3
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Looking at the amount of info and proof of authenticity on this listing, this has to be a scam!!!! there can't be many of these around, and that start of price
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Old 6 January 2010, 03:30 PM   #4
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there was ALOT that "da fugazai factory" released in 2007-2008 that where
popping up in the nawcc nationals in 2008. there is also a tudor seal type with a
similar case. this one has a REAL? maybe (could be) 1570 movement. IMO,
it is worth the price right now because of the 1570 movement.and that is why in my opinion you see this action on this piece of junk. the ones i saw
had a good ol' fashioned, ever-ready to beat, ETA movement. and some had the
touch of the lock-tight bug, never got a chance to look in them
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This watch, should I say fake Rolex, has been around for a while. It is a total fabrication. One week you see it outfitted as a Tudor, another it is a Rolex. Antiquorum has been conned before, and this won't be the last one.
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