How much would you deduct for this?

[tonyp]

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[finance21]

I wouldn't pay 3k for that. It is not worth the hassel IMHO. For about 400-500 more you can find one that hasn't been cut open.

If a jewler cut open a Rolex caseback (or any watch for that matter) perhaps he /she should find a new career.

If the watch is from 2004 why did the case need to be opened? Did he tell you?

[tonyp]

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[finance21]

Also, I just checked out my Explorer II (D serial) and GMT II (F serial) and where the SEL meets the case the openings are rounded. In that picture they look squared which would make me suspect.

Why is that watch stamped with what looks like "798" in that spot? Look into that perhaps someone can add a bit more info.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by finance21

Also, I just checked out my Explorer II (D serial) and GMT II (F serial) and where the SEL meets the case the openings are rounded. In that picture they look squared which would make me suspect.

Why is that watch stamped with what looks like "798" in that spot? Look into that perhaps someone can add a bit more info.

I think that looks like 78630...the part number of the Oyster bracelet.

But you are right....why would a jeweller have to cut open the caseback. Did he not have the proper Rolex tool?

[tonyp]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I think that looks like 78630...the part number of the Oyster bracelet.

But you are right....why would a jeweller have to cut open the caseback. Did he not have the proper Rolex tool?

Yes I caught that too. But wasnt sure. Should this watch have SEL ?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by tonyp

Yes I caught that too. But wasnt sure. Should this watch have SEL ?

Yes...considering the year of manufacture!! In fact, those are SELs. No butterfly wings at the bottom!!

Non-SEL look at the bottom...(lower picture - top picture is SEL)

[finance21]

I would find out why it had to be opened. I just dont think it is worth it. To bad about the divorce but then again not something you should finance!!

[tonyp]

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[finance21]

Any/All jewlers would simply say "I don't have the tool to open this watch, please bring it else where". Rather than just rip it appart. It does not make sense to me.

From personal experiance, when things seem odd they usually are.

[OldSkool]

This sounds fishy....If this guy's brother was truly an Arkansas jeweler, he would have welded a nut to the caseback and used a wrench to open it.

On a serious note, my paperwork shows that Dallas RSC charged $210 for the new caseback for my 'Dweller. Apparently, the original caseback was engraved.

Cheers,
JC

[tonyp]

Originally Posted by OldSkool

This sounds fishy....If this guy's brother was truly an Arkansas jeweler, he would have welded a nut to the caseback and used a wrench to open it.

On a serious note, my paperwork shows that Dallas RSC charged $210 for the new caseback for my 'Dweller. Apparently, the original caseback was engraved.

Cheers,
JC

That so true. Hey im not going to pursue this. I might end up like this guy if my wife were to find out I bought another Rolex!

[mike]

Honestly, I'd pass. Cutting the caseback off is over the top, what might have happened to the threads on the case?
For work done by Rolex, add the cost of service and a bezel.

I wonder about the bracelet. My GMT II has no numbers on the bracelet, should be a 78790 oysterlock.

[C.J.]

I'd skip this one too. Like Mike said, there must have been a problem to have to cut the case back. Now, add a proper service, new case back and bezel to the $3000 and you're paying too much IMHO

[ohlins]

for a 1 piece SEL...which the picture seems to show....there shd not be any marking on the bracelet...

[AJC]

Run,very quickly.You don't buy meat from a Rolex AD.Why should you buy a Rolex from a Butcher.

Aaron

[tonyp]

Not good pics but its all I have.

[lmperra]

"He supposably bought it from one of the pawn shops down from a river boat casino. He took it to her brother because he is a jeweler. Well apparently he has no Rolex tools[/I]."

The deal smells fishy to me.

[mikey]

What do you mean cut the caseback? I can't tell in the pic. Why would someone damage a watch then ask for $3000??

[Flyjet601]

It stinks to me.......run like hell

MY oyster bracelet doesnt have nay numbers in that place. Neither on my GMT or SD


How much would I deduct...$3000-$3000= $0

[tonyp]

Originally Posted by Flyjet601

It stinks to me.......run like hell

MY oyster bracelet doesnt have nay numbers in that place. Neither on my GMT or SD


How much would I deduct...$3000-$3000= $0

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[tonelar]

Oyster bracelet number for a late model GMT II is supposed to be 78790 (mine is 78790A). That watch has SEL, but it looks wrong where it meets the case back. Also, that SWISS MADE looks wrong in the close up picture...

The latest SEL bracelets only have their id numbers inside the SEL... but some had them old style as well as in the SEL. I have 4 SEL watches, two have the numbers there while the newer ones (serial number wise) don't.

I'd definitely pass it up...

[jaycee]

Unless Rolex have made major changes then that watch differs considerably from my 2005 GMT 2. First of all, the ii after GMT master on mine is II, with both characters joined together. The font used for the word "Rolex" doesn't look quite right (especially the R and L), the font for "oyster perpetual date" and "superlative chronometer etc." is completely different (no serifs), the words "swiss made" are in a different position in relation to the minute markers and that etched crown at the 6 o'clock position is simply too easy to see. Mine is hard to find with a 30x21 loupe.

This watch stinks!! Don't go near it!! It's fake.

[tonyp]

Originally Posted by jaycee

Unless Rolex have made major changes then that watch differs considerably from my 2005 GMT 2. First of all, the ii after GMT master on mine is II, with both characters joined together. The font used for the word "Rolex" doesn't look quite right (especially the R and L), the font for "oyster perpetual date" and "superlative chronometer etc." is completely different (no serifs), the words "swiss made" are in a different position in relation to the minute markers and that etched crown at the 6 o'clock position is simply too easy to see. Mine is hard to find with a 30x21 loupe.

This watch stinks!! Don't go near it!! It's fake.

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[Gedanken]

Originally Posted by tonyp

Well now I doubt its a fake!

I wouldn't discount that possibility too quickly, Tony. I do agree with Jaycee about the etched coronet, and I would have thought that the space in "Swiss Made" would be a lot smaller.

Also, looking at the reflection of the clasp in the first photo, the polished bevelled edge of the caseback looks too rounded, and the SEL and springbar look suspect as well.

One way or another, I think you've made a good choice in avoiding it. As a general rule, when a watch comes with a story like that, the best thing to do is get the final word from the RSC - using them as an authorative source also avoids the offence that so often accompanies amateur appraisals.

[tonelar]

Originally Posted by tonyp

Well now I doubt its a fake!

You're of course joking, right? It looks about as good as the other $125 fakes I see online... I'd take $120 off for the lamely handled case opening and you've got a nice $5 paperweight.

[tonyp]

Originally Posted by tonelar

You're of course joking, right? It looks about as good as the other $125 fakes I see online... I'd take $120 off ot for the lamely handled case opening and you've got a nice $5 paperweight.

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[tonyp]

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[montecristo]

You see where it says swiss made? I think the word swiss should starts at the 32nd minute, not in between. The coronet itching is too obvious, the hour hand looks kinda weird, quality wise.

Its something I'd pass even if the guy is trying to let me have it for 1k.

[finance21]

I would not buy that watch. As others have stated the way the lettering lines up on the face of the watch does not make sense. Rolex is a high priced watch and they ensure everything lines up as it should. I personally own a GMT II (D serial) and in all honestly I would say that the watch in those pictures is a fake. Perhaps your neighbor doesn't know it himself, but rest assured the watch is fake.

Montecristo is dead on...mine also starts at 32.....forget about that watch.