How do you remove this rivet pin from the 91350 Clasp?

[subgmt]

Pic helps.

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/watchma...bracelet_9.jpg (Borrowed)

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/watchma...racelet_10.jpg (borrowed)

How do you remove this wire from the Sub 91350 clasp and change it?

steel bar ('rivet pin') that holds the flip lock clasp assembly

The pin will worn over years. RSC will ask you to change the whole clasp and will not service it. Anyway to take out and put back? Looks like you need some special tool.

[Tools]

It's a rivet..

You grind off the end, punch it out; put a new one in and hammer over (re-rivet) the ends........

[Safetrends]

I had to replace my clasp, someone tried to remove the rivet pin and caused damage.

I did not know the clasp was damaged until I got a real close up view (under a loupe) of the clasp.

[subgmt]

Originally Posted by Tools

It's a rivet..

You grind off the end, punch it out; put a new one in and hammer over (re-rivet) the ends........

Goodness....this sound tough for a Rolex owner......:)

Not sure how i can make the rivet as perfect as rolex does...... where do we get the rivet ends after we grind off....

Larry, any tutorial for this? Show us with pictures....you have provided superb technical knowledge of changing many parts....Please show how to rivet back...cutting sounds easier

Maybe a replacement clasp works better.

[Rikki]

The way it's done at Rolex is the steel rod that goes through the parts to be riveted is just a straight s/s pin and they use a pneumatic riveter with the proper round end piece to make the rivet and mushroom the pin. If you do not have one of these pneumatic hand riveters you will no t be able to do it properly without bending or warping the pin. Just a word of warning. Rikki

[Tools]

Originally Posted by subgmt

Goodness....this sound tough for a Rolex owner......:)

Not sure how i can make the rivet as perfect as rolex does...... where do we get the rivet ends after we grind off....

Larry, any tutorial for this? Show us with pictures....you have provided superb technical knowledge of changing many parts....Please show how to rivet back...cutting sounds easier

Maybe a replacement clasp works better.

I've actually been looking for an older bracelet and clasp to do a couple of DIY repairs..removal of a perm link, rivet replacement, etc.....

But so far, I haven't been able to dig up a donor bracelet and clasp..

[subgmt]

Originally Posted by Rikki

The way it's done at Rolex is the steel rod that goes through the parts to be riveted is just a straight s/s pin and they use a pneumatic riveter with the proper round end piece to make the rivet and mushroom the pin. If you do not have one of these pneumatic hand riveters you will no t be able to do it properly without bending or warping the pin. Just a word of warning. Rikki

That is a good advice. thanks. I wont be trying out then...

RSC will never repair it.

Can we just use any plier to clamp down this eroded pin so that it is tighter and no more wear?

I probably will just live with a thinner pin till it breaks in another 10 years and go Nato strap........

[Tools]

I'll bet that a good manufacturing jeweler (not just the mall sales shops) can repair it for a modest sum...

They are used to repairing jewelry clasps, insets, laser welding, and basic metal work....

[Rikki]

Well actually there's a 3 part rivet system that works quite well. You would need to make a few unnoticeable alterations it uses a s/s tube and 2 end pins that are tapered you hammer them together after the alterations and they work and seem to last as long as the original pin. Rik

[subgmt]

Originally Posted by Rikki

Well actually there's a 3 part rivet system that works quite well. You would need to make a few unnoticeable alterations it uses a s/s tube and 2 end pins that are tapered you hammer them together after the alterations and they work and seem to last as long as the original pin. Rik

This seems to be a common problem for all 9135 and 91350 bracelets.

Its the weakest link for all vintage bracelet.

For Jubilee, we can simply replace this pin. Due to the rivet, there is nothing we can do unless we have strong technical skills to mod and change this. thanks...if there are picture to illustrate the 3 part rivet, it will help.

[Juggernaut]

Any idea where I find the rivet pins and tube that holds the folding clasp to the buckle?

[rmfnla]

Finding replacement parts will probably be the hardest part!

[David Woo]

I used to do a lot of (solid and hollow) rivet work when restoring old land rovers, they're full of them in the bodywork. Places like McMaster Carr have the various sized rivets, and most good tool stores will carry the pneumatic tools for installing the rivets. I assume a squeezer was used for the bracelet rivet.
Myself, I'd probably buy a new clasp as the repair will be tedious.
DW

[rmfnla]

I'd rather repair a Rolex clasp than a Land Rover!

[TattooedGQ]

Originally Posted by rmfnla

I'd rather repair a Rolex clasp than a Land Rover!

Na, Land Rovers break all the time.....the tech's are accustomed to it by now.









I crack myself up.

[Rikki]

The folding clasp can be purchased separately from Rolex comes with 2 stainless pins with a rivet already on one side of the pin you need a steel ball peen hammer or Pneumatic riveter to install. Rik

[rmfnla]

Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

Na, Land Rovers break all the time.....the tech's are accustomed to it by now.









I crack myself up.

I get it; I've had plenty of English cars. Joseph Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!

[tudorman8276]

...AND, Rolex used to differentiate the 9315 and 93150 safety levers and rivets.

...HOWEVER, Rolex NO LONGER has the 9315 safety levers. They send a 93150 safety lever and pin/rivet for BOTH models now.

...the earlier replacement 9315 safety lever and pin were relatively easy to replace. INSTEAD of trying to hammer the head of the pin, I found that a CRIMP just inside the rivet works perfectly!!

...having used the 93150 safety lever to replace a worn out 9315 safety lever/rivet, you have to be handy with a dremel tool and CAREFULLY remove metal to shape the safety lever to the buckle.

...it should be noted that it gives an unusual look, as you now have a 93150 safety lever on a 9315 band and you have two little line design present. I am sure the UNKNOWING collector/person would think counterfeit, but that would NOT be the case.

[sailmed]

Originally Posted by rmfnla

I get it; I've had plenty of English cars. Joseph Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!

The English stopped making wristwatches because they could not get them to leak oil.

[rmfnla]

So true! I wish I'd said that!!!

[esspee1200]

sounds a bit more complicated than i thought!!

[30Cal]

Is the safety bar kit something you order through a dealer? The 93150 on my dad's is missing the bar but looks otherwise servicible.

[DoubleRedRolex]

This is what you need. Not sure if this is the right size diameter etc, but this will work.

You can get these on ebay for about $2.
Search for "pins with tubes s/steel"




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280215976279&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Poohsan]

Originally Posted by DoubleRedRolex

This is what you need. Not sure if this is the right size diameter etc, but this will work.

You can get these on ebay for about $2.
Search for "pins with tubes s/steel"




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280215976279&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

If the rivet pin on a 9315 is replaced with this type of 3 part pin will it greatly affect the value of the clasp/bracelet?

[esspee1200]

removing and replacing rivets on a 93150, etc. should only be brought to a watchmaker/RSC center to have it done.

[RLX-lvr]

Check out Otto Frei for rivets.

http://www.ofrei.com/shop-bin/sc/pro...2fec69a4cc40b9

Great watchmakers site.
I get lost for hours when I visit the site.

[SALTY]

My 16710 suffers from the same problem. Thank you for this informative thread.

[Seamaster5]

What size pin would I need to get?

[JohnBaker3]

Originally Posted by rmfnla

I get it; I've had plenty of English cars. Joseph Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!

LOL....Lucas Electrical switches have 3 positions:

ON....OFF....FLICKER....

[2ar2c1]

Originally Posted by JohnBaker3

LOL....Lucas Electrical switches have 3 positions:

ON....OFF....FLICKER....

Lol, so true.