The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 7 March 2010, 02:09 PM   #1
DRMOVIE1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beverly Hills
Watch: PT/SS YM
Posts: 165
Why should you get a Daytona over the AP Royal Oak Off Shore?

Already having a rolex would you choose to experiment with a watch as highly regarded as the AP?

What are pro cons to each?
DRMOVIE1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 02:34 PM   #2
Tools
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
Tools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,514
There really are no pros and cons when deciding on high-end watches.. It all boils down to what you want to wear on your wrist............

For me, I simply do not like the looks of the AP .......... Daytona, all the way..
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....)
NAWCC Member
Tools is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 02:48 PM   #3
Clogger
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SE Asia
Watch: SS Sub Date
Posts: 431
Well I am seriously considering an AP Royal Oak Chrono for my next high end purchase, it's slightly smaller than the Offshore but has similar looks.

While I love the Daytona, I am just not willing to pay over MSRP or wait 2+ years on a list.

I really like the look of the AP's, but I guess you should just get the one you prefer, the Daytona is one hell of a watch.
Clogger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 03:04 PM   #4
ducatidoc
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: the doc side
Watch: zenith
Posts: 3,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clogger View Post
Well I am seriously considering an AP Royal Oak Chrono for my next high end purchase, it's slightly smaller than the Offshore but has similar looks.

While I love the Daytona, I am just not willing to pay over MSRP or wait 2+ years on a list.

I really like the look of the AP's, but I guess you should just get the one you prefer, the Daytona is one hell of a watch.
Daytona is a really pretty watch, no doubt. In any metal or combo. But it's just getting too popular to maintain any kind of unique "wow" factor, IMO. I mean, when you start seeing Ellen Degeneres sporting one, and fashionable Holly-trash women with them loosely bangling on their wrists, you know it's just too much of a female fashion staple.. Just sayin'...
__________________
The payments remain long after the novelty has worn off.

# 26371
NAWCC Member
ducatidoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 03:15 PM   #5
everose
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: World Citizen
Posts: 593
It never worries me who else is buying the watch,how many are buying it,what they are doing with it or reasons why they buy it!!

For me it is entirely about me and the watch...(That is complex enough for my brain!!!!!).

everose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 03:35 PM   #6
ducatidoc
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: the doc side
Watch: zenith
Posts: 3,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by everose View Post
It never worries me who else is buying the watch,how many are buying it,what they are doing with it or reasons why they buy it!!

For me it is entirely about me and the watch...(That is complex enough for my brain!!!!!).

I know, I really shouldn't let it bother me, but it just pains me to see a man's race inspired iconic watch being so casually slung around like a Gucci or Louis Vuitton purse
__________________
The payments remain long after the novelty has worn off.

# 26371
NAWCC Member
ducatidoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 March 2010, 11:31 AM   #7
Klokke
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 125
I hear you but just get the black dial SS Daytona

Quote:
Originally Posted by ducatidoc View Post
I know, I really shouldn't let it bother me, but it just pains me to see a man's race inspired iconic watch being so casually slung around like a Gucci or Louis Vuitton purse
Anytime I've seen a female (celebrity or not) with a SS Daytona, she's had the white dial version. Get the black dial version and you probably will remain in more exclusive company for a while. Maybe that's why in many parts of the world the black dial commands a slight premium over the white.

I sort of doubt there really are many females (celebrities or not) with their own SS Daytona that they wear regularly. I just think we WIS-folk tend to notice such things more when it does occur. It really is without a doubt a men's watch no matter who wears it.

But I see how it can be annoying. We discovery the Rolex modern grail wathc and celebs and others jump on the bandwagon with no idea why they are doing it. They just know it's really hard to get with a long waitlist.
Klokke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 03:46 PM   #8
DRMOVIE1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beverly Hills
Watch: PT/SS YM
Posts: 165
Is one known to be more accurate then the other? What type of myth does the AP movement carry with it? (rolex movements having that blue hairspring)

AP has been around.. one of the oldest 3 watch makers if im not mistaken?

anyone here own one?
DRMOVIE1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 06:27 PM   #9
Joey_V
"TRF" Member
 
Joey_V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Real Name: Joey
Location: Dallas, TX
Watch: SS Sub 16610 M
Posts: 3,824
Quote:
Originally Posted by ducatidoc View Post
I know, I really shouldn't let it bother me, but it just pains me to see a man's race inspired iconic watch being so casually slung around like a Gucci or Louis Vuitton purse
I know... I hear ya. But whatcha gonna do? One man's hard earned, iconic timepiece is another's chump change.


Quote:
Originally Posted by everose View Post
It never worries me who else is buying the watch,how many are buying it,what they are doing with it or reasons why they buy it!!

For me it is entirely about me and the watch...(That is complex enough for my brain!!!!!).

Yup yup.
__________________

Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015
Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L
Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD
Joey_V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 06:40 PM   #10
Starwalker
"TRF" Member
 
Starwalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: aroundtheworld
Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK
Posts: 2,261
I love the AP Royal Oak Chronograph (NOT the offshore), i think its a beautiful watch.

However when it comes to the ROO, i'm not too big of a fan. If you seriously like both watches....i'd say go for the daytona...while its relatively more easily attainable than before, the AP is always around....i'm not sure what AP's price increases are like..but someone at Rolex is smoking somthing strong and has been increasing prices like crazy over the last few years as though they were trying to fund the coke habit of a baby elephant.
__________________
116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds
Starwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 08:50 PM   #11
HL65
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
HL65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Ken
Location: SW Florida
Watch: One on my wrist.
Posts: 64,006
I won them both--they are both amazing watches. They are both very different--the Daytona is my work watch--The AP is a weekend watch. It all depends on what you like.
Name:  AP RC 1.jpg
Views: 403
Size:  52.1 KB

Name:  Panda new.jpg
Views: 401
Size:  56.8 KB
__________________

SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT
HL65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 March 2010, 10:12 AM   #12
ersnyder
2024 Pledge Member
 
ersnyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Real Name: Eric
Location: Long Beach CA USA
Watch: Rolex Explorer II
Posts: 4,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965 View Post
I won them both--they are both amazing watches. They are both very different--the Daytona is my work watch--The AP is a weekend watch. It all depends on what you like.
Attachment 120970

Attachment 120971
Nice shots Ken, real beauties; both of them!
ersnyder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7 March 2010, 09:22 PM   #13
daveathall
"TRF" Member
 
daveathall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Dave
Location: England.
Watch: Various
Posts: 7,305
I think that they are both very desirable watches, both stunning "in house" movements, IMHO styling wise they are very far apart, to my eyes the AP looks more "workman like" and, dare I say it, more day to day wear, the Daytona is, again IMHO, a more beautiful watch, to me, it all depends on when and where one would wear the watch and how it looks on the wrist.

If I was given either watch, I wouldn't be disappointed.

Great problem to have though.
__________________
KINDEST REGARDS

DAVE


daveathall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 01:30 AM   #14
wcl884
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 353
The only reasons I would not buy AP ROC is resale value and WR at 50m. Both watches will sell used at about the same price range. This is not the case when you buy new.

...and the AP is better if you don't want the "Ooh is that a Rolex?" comments.
wcl884 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:19 AM   #15
snowbird
"TRF" Member
 
snowbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600
Posts: 2,157
If you're indifferent between the two, the Daytona is a lot cheaper - isn't the list on the ROO around $20k?
snowbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:25 AM   #16
HL65
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
HL65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Ken
Location: SW Florida
Watch: One on my wrist.
Posts: 64,006
You can get an AP for 13,500-14k BNIB. The Rubber clads not common used on the market--once in a while and if a G--newer one--they usually go for 12k plus.
__________________

SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT
HL65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:49 AM   #17
padi56
"TRF" Life Patron
 
padi56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,062
Not a huge fan of the modern daytona even the less of any of the RO line up .Great movement but IMHO its just a shame about the strap case dial.
__________________

ICom Pro3

All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only.

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever."
Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again.

www.mc0yad.club

Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder
padi56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 04:30 AM   #18
Ck8
"TRF" Member
 
Ck8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Real Name: Mark 哥
Location: UK
Posts: 860
SS Daytona is still cheaper than AP RO and IMHO Daytona is a much better looking watch. AP does not do anything for me.
Ck8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 04:54 AM   #19
ghormley
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: TEXAS
Watch: AP/Rolex
Posts: 222
Get the AP!!!
ghormley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 04:58 AM   #20
DRMOVIE1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beverly Hills
Watch: PT/SS YM
Posts: 165
is there a difference in movements between the Royal Oak Chronograph and the Offshore
DRMOVIE1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 06:40 AM   #21
LawMan
"TRF" Member
 
LawMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Another Planet
Posts: 228
Offshore is the watch to get as it holds it value better than a regular royal oak. I have an offshore rose gold and of all the watches i have bought and sold i am unable to part with the rose gold offshore. Very hefty watch with very low production numbers. I think the total annual production for all AP watches is around 20k watches. Check the Ap forum on TZ and you will have all your questions answered pretty quick.
Your original question was why one watch over the other? Sorry but there is no right answer, if you can afford it try both. No question there is a place in a collection for both.
LawMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 07:03 AM   #22
envuks
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
envuks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 3,741
Personally, I prefer the ROC to the Daytona. Very similar watches, but the ROC has a date and is pretty neat. It's also a watch that most people won't recognize as a high end watch which is nice too. I don't care for the offshore models, just the good old 40mm ROCs.... Really, either way you cannot go wrong!
envuks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:22 PM   #23
Dr. Robert
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Dr. Robert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Real Name: Bob
Location: U.S.A.
Watch: 1655
Posts: 64,260
My vote is for the Daytona....it won't go out of style.
Dr. Robert is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 09:26 AM   #24
DRMOVIE1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beverly Hills
Watch: PT/SS YM
Posts: 165
Off shore = 44mm? Where as Royal oaks are all 40mm?
DRMOVIE1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 09:49 AM   #25
DaytonaG
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: FL
Watch: Yacht Master 16622
Posts: 18
I'm a mile away from the speedway, so I might be the wrong person to give my 2 cents. DAYTONA!
DaytonaG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:04 PM   #26
scl6118
"TRF" Member
 
scl6118's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Shawn
Location: United States
Watch: SS GMT IIC
Posts: 1,624
Quite simply, the Rolex is gorgeous and the AP is hideous looking!
__________________

Current: SS GMT IIC
Former: Panerai 114
Former: Breitling Hercules

:
scl6118 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 March 2010, 08:57 AM   #27
HL65
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
HL65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Ken
Location: SW Florida
Watch: One on my wrist.
Posts: 64,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by scl6118 View Post
Quite simply, the Rolex is gorgeous and the AP is hideous looking!
Hideous looking---think not--They are without a doubt one of the top 3 watchmakers in the world. I own both a Daytona and AP ROO-different--yes--hideuous--no. Taste is subjective--many people think Rolexes lack quality--me not being one of them--though many highend dealers would disagree with me and often do. If they were hideous they would not be regarded as they are!
My 2 favorite watches I own: Daytona and AP ROO:
Name:  AP RC 1.jpg
Views: 79
Size:  52.1 KB

Name:  Panda new.jpg
Views: 78
Size:  56.8 KB
__________________

SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT
HL65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9 March 2010, 01:42 PM   #28
scl6118
"TRF" Member
 
scl6118's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Shawn
Location: United States
Watch: SS GMT IIC
Posts: 1,624
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965 View Post
Hideous looking---think not--They are without a doubt one of the top 3 watchmakers in the world. I own both a Daytona and AP ROO-different--yes--hideuous--no. Taste is subjective--many people think Rolexes lack quality--me not being one of them--though many highend dealers would disagree with me and often do. If they were hideous they would not be regarded as they are!
My 2 favorite watches I own: Daytona and AP ROO:
Attachment 121443

Attachment 121444
Just offering my opinion on the looks of the ROO, not disputing the reputation of AP. I think the ROO is one of the ugliest watches around. I try to see the uniqueness and beauty of every watch, but the ROO makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I see it. Sorry.
__________________

Current: SS GMT IIC
Former: Panerai 114
Former: Breitling Hercules

:
scl6118 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 02:20 PM   #29
scottschoe
"TRF" Member
 
scottschoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 3,295
Having had Zenith and in-house Daytonas before, I can say the ROO is just a totally different animal. PM me if you have specific questions.
__________________
__________________
scottschoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8 March 2010, 03:12 PM   #30
timeisfathaoftruth
"TRF" Member
 
timeisfathaoftruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Ed
Location: New England
Watch: Sub,Daytona,GMT,YM
Posts: 997
In my opinion they are oh so different in looks......Would seem to me, that it should be real easy for one to know which is more appealing to that person....For me it is easily the looks of the Daytona.

Only other senario, is when someone loves the looks of both; then the question isn't which to buy, but rather which to buy first.
timeisfathaoftruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

My Watch LLC

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.