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HFLO · 2 April 2010, 02:59 PM

with box/paper, seller claims watch is new, unworn (?), asking $2200+

good offer? reasonable? high?

any other comment?

thks !

Earl Camembert · 2 April 2010, 04:06 PM

I need a link so I can buy it.

HFLO · 2 April 2010, 06:01 PM

ha ha...

I happened to know this guy (seller) and he gives me an offer.

I post it here asking for comment whetehr it is genunie and if the asking price is reasonable.

Earl Camembert · 2 April 2010, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HFLO

ha ha...

I happened to know this guy (seller) and he gives me an offer.

I post it here asking for comment whetehr it is genunie and if the asking price is reasonable.

OK to be honest; it appears to be what he claims it be. That said cut $500 off the price and you will have a TRF deal.

idk01 · 2 April 2010, 09:45 PM

New unworn?? with a 2000 serial???, looks the part to me, box and accessories look all above board, can you get some better photos of the watch, check all the ref numbers, (endlinks and clasp codes)

TimeToGo · 2 April 2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

OK to be honest; it appears to be what he claims it be. That said cut $500 off the price and you will have a TRF deal.

It looks very nice, but this is a no-date... Price appears a bit high.

Kapture1 · 2 April 2010, 10:32 PM

looks good, price too is reasonable too. I would honestly pay that amount for an unworn Air-King any day of the week.

HFLO · 3 April 2010, 02:38 AM

thks, guys

ask seller for more photo/info... awaiting (if he) reply...

TimeToGo · 3 April 2010, 05:54 AM

Here is the link!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:AAQ:US:1123

HFLO · 3 April 2010, 05:18 PM

yes, but according to seller, he had another 'unworn' and of 'variation' (but he did not mention what is the variation). I posted the photo that seller mail me.

I also contacted a 'friend' who bought from same seller, and buyer confirmed watch is authentic.

what puzzle me is that seller seems to mail me the 'same' photo, see number on paper

interesting, ha ?

TimeToGo · 3 April 2010, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HFLO

yes, but according to seller, he had another 'unworn' and of 'variation' (but he did not mention what is the variation). I posted the photo that seller mail me.

I also contacted a 'friend' who bought from same seller, and buyer confirmed watch is authentic.

what puzzle me is that seller seems to mail me the 'same' photo, see number on paper

interesting, ha ?

Please be careful!

The serial numbers of the items are the same!

HFLO · 3 April 2010, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Please be careful!

The serial numbers of the items are the same!

exactly, that's what worries me

ask seller regarding the number, he normally take 2~3 days to reply. may be too many questions to handle

TimeToGo · 3 April 2010, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HFLO

exactly, that's what worries me

ask seller regarding the number, he normally take 2~3 days to reply. may be too many questions to handle

Count the red flags...

If you get to......ONE..... stop and move on!

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Here is the link!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:AAQ:US:1123

Seller's sold 3 Rolex watches in short order. All are NIB yet early 2000's by serial letter. Y, K and (listing removed by eBay......... VERY INTERESTING !!!) The last issue tells me that the first buyer by sale date filed a claim very quickly with Pay Pal back in January. This seller's running a Ponzi scheme. Never empties his account so as long as PayPal continues to recover their funds, any excess the seller keeps. I'm sure the seller is making money on the shipping charges too. Until the negative feedback builds up, this seller will keep on going. He is banking on the embarrassment factor from keeping a buyer leaving negative feed back as must will not admit they were scammed as long as they get restitution.

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 02:08 AM

see below reply from seller, so what should I do next ? ask for a photo showing 8 on 8 (I learnt this in TRF)???

>>>
If you look at the model and serial number of the watch you found on the other Internet web site, you will notice they are exactly the same as mine.
The model number: 14000 and the serial number P839585, are identical to the one on the paperwork in the picture I sent you.
You have done me a great favor, as this person is attempting to sell my watch. He may either be trying to buy it from me, then sell it again at a higher price.

I now ask you for your help - 1.) How much is he asking for the watch and 2.) What Internet web site is he listing it on?

You may have helped me so much, I may let you have it at a greatly reduced price!!!
>>

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 02:26 AM

HFLO, at this point, I think I'd go to someone like Bodybump (Oscar) or DavidSW on our forum. As it stands, there are three sellers of the same watch by serial number, using the same photos. One on TRF and two on eBay. The one on TRF has just barely met the required number of posts required to sell. The two on eBay have very low feedback numbers. This whole thing smells like stink !

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyTX

...One on TRF and two on eBay. The one on TRF has just barely met the required number of posts required to sell. The two on eBay have very low feedback numbers...

I 'think' the one on TRF is 'legitimate', he probably bought it from this 'seller' and had the watch checked.

let see how it goes...

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 02:46 AM

Did you read his listing on TRF ? He states it was bought in 2004 for a hiking trip and has been a safe queen ever since. Yet, didn't he in another thread mention he just bought the damn watch off eBay ?

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyTX

.. He states it was bought in 2004 for a hiking trip and has been a safe queen ever since. Yet, didn't he in another thread mention he just bought the damn watch off eBay ?

bought in 2004 refers to the 'original seller' in eBay

and that 'original seller' is the seller that offer and send me photo

hmm.. why should I answer for the TRF seller, you should ask him yah?

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 03:52 AM

The whole thing gives me a bad feeling. Just my .02

Earl Camembert · 4 April 2010, 05:28 AM

A question for the OP do you know how much a shill buyer with a long history on eBay gets for a buy?

spuds · 4 April 2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

A question for the OP do you know how much a shill buyer with a long history on eBay gets for a buy?

Please excuse my ignorance but I too saw this watch for sale on TRF & am just watching from the sidelines.......

but I have no idea what you're asking in the above!

Could you explain/re-phrase it for the uneducated amongst us please?

(Thanks).

Earl Camembert · 4 April 2010, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds

but I have no idea what you're asking in the above!

I have noticed some long time buyers buy high end watches from low feedback sellers and give them a positive feedback, they buy a couple of watches a month. I was just wondering how much they get paid to do shill buying.

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds

Please excuse my ignorance but I too saw this watch for sale on TRF & am just watching from the sidelines.......

but I have no idea what you're asking in the above!

Could you explain/re-phrase it for the uneducated amongst us please?

(Thanks).

The watch in question was listed on eBay by two different sellers. Subsequently bought by a new TRF member that in turn has listed it for sale on TRF just as soon as he reached the required number of posts to be able to list in the for sale section.

Kind of makes one wonder doesn't it ?

RolexPete32 · 4 April 2010, 11:47 AM

OK OK OK all of you please see all the photoes from this guys post for this air-king. Look at the 4th picture down and you will see the common fake Rolex hologram sticker. To me this confirms a fake watch and futher more the whole thing stinks anyway. Why would you have this watch not wear it then sell it. Bottom line fake look at the caseback sticker.

RolexPete32 · 4 April 2010, 11:55 AM

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=122911

4th picture down see caseback sticker. We all should know this is an example of the knock off one.

MikeyTX · 4 April 2010, 12:03 PM

Violated the 48 hr bump rule today.

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyTX

The watch in question was listed on eBay by two different sellers.

I didn't notice there're 2 different sellers, can you point the 2 links?

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blendhpi

OK OK OK all of you please see all the photoes from this guys post for this air-king. Look at the 4th picture down and you will see the common fake Rolex hologram sticker...

I thought some Rolex do have hologram sitcker? may be MOD should check on it (the FS)? need more opinions from other.

HFLO · 4 April 2010, 01:41 PM

below another photo from 'original' seller, see closer and you can see the seller hand in the reflection... does that mean anything?

2 April 2010, 02:59 PM	#1
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	comment on this Air King with box/paper, seller claims watch is new, unworn (?), asking $2200+ good offer? reasonable? high? any other comment? thks ! Attached Images __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

2 April 2010, 06:01 PM	#3
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	ha ha... I happened to know this guy (seller) and he gives me an offer. I post it here asking for comment whetehr it is genunie and if the asking price is reasonable. __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

2 April 2010, 09:45 PM	#5
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	New unworn?? with a 2000 serial???, looks the part to me, box and accessories look all above board, can you get some better photos of the watch, check all the ref numbers, (endlinks and clasp codes) __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

2 April 2010, 10:32 PM	#7
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	looks good, price too is reasonable too. I would honestly pay that amount for an unworn Air-King any day of the week. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

3 April 2010, 02:38 AM	#8
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	thks, guys ask seller for more photo/info... awaiting (if he) reply... __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

2 April 2010, 04:06 PM	#2
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	I need a link so I can buy it.

3 April 2010, 05:54 AM	#9
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Here is the link! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=120205 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:AAQ:US:1123

3 April 2010, 05:18 PM	#10
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	yes, but according to seller, he had another 'unworn' and of 'variation' (but he did not mention what is the variation). I posted the photo that seller mail me. I also contacted a 'friend' who bought from same seller, and buyer confirmed watch is authentic. what puzzle me is that seller seems to mail me the 'same' photo, see number on paper interesting, ha ? __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

4 April 2010, 02:08 AM	#15
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	see below reply from seller, so what should I do next ? ask for a photo showing 8 on 8 (I learnt this in TRF)??? >>> If you look at the model and serial number of the watch you found on the other Internet web site, you will notice they are exactly the same as mine. The model number: 14000 and the serial number P839585, are identical to the one on the paperwork in the picture I sent you. You have done me a great favor, as this person is attempting to sell my watch. He may either be trying to buy it from me, then sell it again at a higher price. I now ask you for your help - 1.) How much is he asking for the watch and 2.) What Internet web site is he listing it on? You may have helped me so much, I may let you have it at a greatly reduced price!!! >> __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

4 April 2010, 02:26 AM	#16
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	HFLO, at this point, I think I'd go to someone like Bodybump (Oscar) or DavidSW on our forum. As it stands, there are three sellers of the same watch by serial number, using the same photos. One on TRF and two on eBay. The one on TRF has just barely met the required number of posts required to sell. The two on eBay have very low feedback numbers. This whole thing smells like stink ! __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

4 April 2010, 02:46 AM	#18
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	Did you read his listing on TRF ? He states it was bought in 2004 for a hiking trip and has been a safe queen ever since. Yet, didn't he in another thread mention he just bought the damn watch off eBay ? __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

4 April 2010, 03:52 AM	#20
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	The whole thing gives me a bad feeling. Just my .02 __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

4 April 2010, 05:28 AM	#21
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	A question for the OP do you know how much a shill buyer with a long history on eBay gets for a buy?

4 April 2010, 11:47 AM	#25
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	OK OK OK all of you please see all the photoes from this guys post for this air-king. Look at the 4th picture down and you will see the common fake Rolex hologram sticker. To me this confirms a fake watch and futher more the whole thing stinks anyway. Why would you have this watch not wear it then sell it. Bottom line fake look at the caseback sticker.

4 April 2010, 11:55 AM	#26
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=122911 4th picture down see caseback sticker. We all should know this is an example of the knock off one.

4 April 2010, 12:03 PM	#27
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	And on top of all that .................. Violated the 48 hr bump rule today. __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

4 April 2010, 01:41 PM	#30
HFLO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: 1803 DD Posts: 377	below another photo from 'original' seller, see closer and you can see the seller hand in the reflection... does that mean anything? Attached Images __________________ time is what a clock measures . . . especially ROLEX !

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