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joeychitwood · 4 May 2010, 07:18 AM

If I hear Conan O'Brien whine one more time about how poorly he was treated by NBC and Jay Leno, I'm going to be sick. Come on Conan, NBC gave you 30 million dollars to go away. Your ratings were in the toilet as the host of The Tonight Show, and if I was Leno, I wouldn't talk to you either. Get over it. No one feels sorry for you. QUIT WHINING!

Mockingbird · 4 May 2010, 07:24 AM

Ugh, how does he have any right to complain about anything? He's getting paid 30,000,000 NOT TO WORK!!!!!!

joeychitwood · 4 May 2010, 07:41 AM

His interview on 60 Minutes last evening was actually pathetic. He (and his wife) sat forlornly and recited yet again how he had been wronged, and he looks like he expects sympathy for his circumstances. I'm sure most of us could find a way to move on with our 30 million.

1000ftSub · 4 May 2010, 07:45 AM

I never thought Conan was funny.

Idle Swede · 4 May 2010, 08:09 AM

Never liked him, much less now.

Omega_Precision · 4 May 2010, 08:23 AM

Conan is hilarious.

Conan's demographics are younger and Leno's are older. I think NBC made a mistake in the long run.

sakuraba · 4 May 2010, 08:30 AM

A bit embarrassing for someone to pay you money to stop making jokes.

Taffi Abernathy · 4 May 2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I'm sure most of us could find a way to move on with our 30 million.

That's true enough . . . for most of us that is. But Conan has been entertaining for years and already brings to the table multimillionaire status. I don't think this is at all about money (at least primarily for Conan). He was usurped from a show doing relatively well (if it hadn't done well he would not have been offered an earlier timespot). The new show didn't fare well and now he will soon be gone from the public eye, a virtual kiss of death for an entertainer. While I'm not excusing his whining, he has some valid points. Recall the treatment Letterman got from NBC when they chose Leno as Carson's successor. Again, I'm not condoning the way in which Conan has dealt with this situation, but I do understand why he's unhappy.

walds11 · 4 May 2010, 08:30 AM

I agree, Conan is hilarious. I just never got Leno.

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Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

Conan is hilarious.

Conan's demographics are younger and Leno's are older. I think NBC made a mistake in the long run.

Omega_Precision · 4 May 2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sakuraba

A bit embarrassing for someone to pay you money to stop making jokes.

The joke is on NBC.

30 million anyone?

sakuraba · 4 May 2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

The joke is on NBC.

30 million anyone?

true

joeychitwood · 4 May 2010, 08:35 AM

I actually don't watch any of the late night shows, and I live in the Central time zone. I don't understand how those of you on the East Coast can stay up until 11:35 to watch them.

Taffi Abernathy · 4 May 2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I don't understand how those of you on the East Coast can stay up until 11:35 to watch them.

The ability to stay up night after night to view these "late shows" is a prerequisite to obtaining East Coast citizenship.

Pep04 · 4 May 2010, 08:52 AM

OK guys, lets take a second to see what happened here. The execs at NBC basically fired Jay Leno. Leno, which lowered himself in my opinion, took a 10 pm prime time slot. He took all the grade A celebrities first and had Conan competing with Letterman using 2nd grade celebrities. And, when Leno was done interviewing the A listers, then Conan had to interview the same guest on the same network.

Furthermore, Conan always said that it was going to be a huge step for him to take over that show. He conducted himself with humbleness and class.

Leno, as a snake in the grass, went crawling back to his original slot.

Lets, get one thing straight. I used to love Jay Leno. I rarely missed his show. When he got fired (and lets face it he WAS fired from the tonight show), the right thing to do was to leave the network. Not degrade himself the way he did.

And Conan is only upset at the way they treated him. He himself said that he would love the opportunity, but thought he was still a little green. The fact is that Conan's audience are people in the college age groups. And his week point is the 35- 54 segment. The same group of people that watch the 11:30 slot.

Yes, he received millions. But he is only upset because he was happy and content at his 12:30 slot and they "talked him into" taking the 11:30. They didn't tell him the he would be interviewing the same guest that he was at 1 am. You can't take a knife to a gun fight.

Cut the guy some slack. He was betrayed by the executives and by who he thought was a friend in Leno.

train-time · 4 May 2010, 08:54 AM

Some people just don't get it!

Earl · 4 May 2010, 09:07 AM

me: to bed by 9:30 p.m. and up at 4:55 a.m. Conan / Jay I could care less but, what does amaze me is these ppl were paid that much! I am in the wrong business.

joeychitwood · 4 May 2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

The ability to stay up night after night to view these "late shows" is a prerequisite to obtaining East Coast citizenship.

You all must sleep until about 8:30 in the morning, huh.

ducatidoc · 4 May 2010, 09:17 AM

Ain't none of 'em could ever hold a candle to Carson. They're all lightweights.

East Bay Rider · 4 May 2010, 09:25 AM

It was embarrassing to watch.

gmh1013 · 4 May 2010, 10:07 AM

I could not stand Conan....of course im old ...he never said one thing that was funny to me....
But after 30 million to go away and to hear him going on how he was wronged etc....what sack of dumb s**t
What a prick

Watchdog · 4 May 2010, 11:27 AM

I remember watching Conan when he first debuted. It was completely boring and almost embarrasingly not funny. I actually cringed for him. I could not believe they let him stay on the television. Tuned in a few years later, and I felt the same way. Tuned in a few years after that and felt the same way.

Many folks disagree with my belief, and I respect their opinions. Humor, as with most things, is subjective. But I honestly find him to be one of the most non-funny individuals I have ever seen on T.V.--sad because he seems like a very nice person of strong character (of course, I could be wrong on this account, too

).

Chipmunk · 4 May 2010, 11:51 AM

Yeah, shut up already...

diversified · 4 May 2010, 12:33 PM

I never got Conan and still think Jimmy Kimmel is the best late nighter out there!

rkb · 4 May 2010, 12:39 PM

Never cared much for Leno, maybe because I loved Carson so much. Dave was my favorite for many years when he was more zany than political. Even though Letterman and I share many of the same ideologies when I watch late night TV I don't want politics- even if I agree with it. What I want to see is someone dropping stuff off the top of the building, I want to see stunts like the giant velcro suit.

Coco took the reigns where Dave left off and while I didn't laugh at every gag I sure liked Conan better than Leno. That said, I watched the interview and thought that O'Brien looked a bit needy and pathetic- I know the deal was raw but 30mil is a hell of a bandaid!

Omega_Precision · 4 May 2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ducatidoc

Ain't none of 'em could ever hold a candle to Carson. They're all lightweights.

I can't stand Carson Daly.

If anyone is boring it's him.

dukester · 4 May 2010, 01:00 PM

I am young (or atleast I think I am).......and I was never a fan of Conan. I do like Jay and am happy for him to be back in the 11:35 pm slot!!!!

bobp315 · 4 May 2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

I can't stand Carson Daly.

If anyone is boring it's him.

Man, I'm pretty sure he meant Johnny Carson. JC was the one who started this whole late night tv thing.

Idle Swede · 4 May 2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobp315

Man, I'm pretty sure he meant Johnny Carson. JC was the one who started this whole late night tv thing.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny.

ducatidoc · 4 May 2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobp315

Man, I'm pretty sure he meant Johnny Carson. JC was the one who started this whole late night tv thing.

Of course I meant Johnny, Henry was just being...well...Henry !

But I do believe that Steve Allen debuted the Tonight Show, and he too was a very funny, as well as classy guy.

Dan Pierce · 4 May 2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ducatidoc

Of course I meant Johnny, Henry was just being...well...Henry !

But I do believe that Steve Allen debuted the Tonight Show, and he too was a very funny, as well as classy guy.

Agreed.

The Johnny Carson standard will never be seen again, I'm afraid.

As before, the late night show wars made everyone involved look bad.

dP

4 May 2010, 07:18 AM	#1
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	Hey Conan, quit your whining. Please! If I hear Conan O'Brien whine one more time about how poorly he was treated by NBC and Jay Leno, I'm going to be sick. Come on Conan, NBC gave you 30 million dollars to go away. Your ratings were in the toilet as the host of The Tonight Show, and if I was Leno, I wouldn't talk to you either. Get over it. No one feels sorry for you. QUIT WHINING!

4 May 2010, 08:30 AM	#7
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	A bit embarrassing for someone to pay you money to stop making jokes. __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

4 May 2010, 08:52 AM	#14
Pep04 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Pep Location: Miami Watch: GMTIIc, Pam320 Posts: 2,773	OK guys, lets take a second to see what happened here. The execs at NBC basically fired Jay Leno. Leno, which lowered himself in my opinion, took a 10 pm prime time slot. He took all the grade A celebrities first and had Conan competing with Letterman using 2nd grade celebrities. And, when Leno was done interviewing the A listers, then Conan had to interview the same guest on the same network. Furthermore, Conan always said that it was going to be a huge step for him to take over that show. He conducted himself with humbleness and class. Leno, as a snake in the grass, went crawling back to his original slot. Lets, get one thing straight. I used to love Jay Leno. I rarely missed his show. When he got fired (and lets face it he WAS fired from the tonight show), the right thing to do was to leave the network. Not degrade himself the way he did. And Conan is only upset at the way they treated him. He himself said that he would love the opportunity, but thought he was still a little green. The fact is that Conan's audience are people in the college age groups. And his week point is the 35- 54 segment. The same group of people that watch the 11:30 slot. Yes, he received millions. But he is only upset because he was happy and content at his 12:30 slot and they "talked him into" taking the 11:30. They didn't tell him the he would be interviewing the same guest that he was at 1 am. You can't take a knife to a gun fight. Cut the guy some slack. He was betrayed by the executives and by who he thought was a friend in Leno. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin Prick #8

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4 May 2010, 07:24 AM	#2
Mockingbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: -- Posts: 2,097	Ugh, how does he have any right to complain about anything? He's getting paid 30,000,000 NOT TO WORK!!!!!!

4 May 2010, 07:41 AM	#3
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	His interview on 60 Minutes last evening was actually pathetic. He (and his wife) sat forlornly and recited yet again how he had been wronged, and he looks like he expects sympathy for his circumstances. I'm sure most of us could find a way to move on with our 30 million.

4 May 2010, 07:45 AM	#4
1000ftSub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Orlando Posts: 2,471	I never thought Conan was funny.

4 May 2010, 08:09 AM	#5
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	Never liked him, much less now.

4 May 2010, 08:23 AM	#6
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Conan is hilarious. Conan's demographics are younger and Leno's are older. I think NBC made a mistake in the long run.

4 May 2010, 08:35 AM	#12
joeychitwood "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Way Up North USA Watch: Rolexes & Tudors Posts: 6,361	I actually don't watch any of the late night shows, and I live in the Central time zone. I don't understand how those of you on the East Coast can stay up until 11:35 to watch them.

4 May 2010, 09:07 AM	#16
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	me: to bed by 9:30 p.m. and up at 4:55 a.m. Conan / Jay I could care less but, what does amaze me is these ppl were paid that much! I am in the wrong business.

4 May 2010, 10:07 AM	#20
gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,703	I could not stand Conan....of course im old ...he never said one thing that was funny to me.... But after 30 million to go away and to hear him going on how he was wronged etc....what sack of dumb s**t What a prick

4 May 2010, 11:27 AM	#21
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,822	I remember watching Conan when he first debuted. It was completely boring and almost embarrasingly not funny. I actually cringed for him. I could not believe they let him stay on the television. Tuned in a few years later, and I felt the same way. Tuned in a few years after that and felt the same way. Many folks disagree with my belief, and I respect their opinions. Humor, as with most things, is subjective. But I honestly find him to be one of the most non-funny individuals I have ever seen on T.V.--sad because he seems like a very nice person of strong character (of course, I could be wrong on this account, too).

4 May 2010, 11:51 AM	#22
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	Yeah, shut up already... __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

4 May 2010, 12:33 PM	#23
diversified "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: State College PA Posts: 1,694	I never got Conan and still think Jimmy Kimmel is the best late nighter out there!

4 May 2010, 12:39 PM	#24
rkb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Russell Location: Seattle Metro Watch: EXPORER II Posts: 605	Never cared much for Leno, maybe because I loved Carson so much. Dave was my favorite for many years when he was more zany than political. Even though Letterman and I share many of the same ideologies when I watch late night TV I don't want politics- even if I agree with it. What I want to see is someone dropping stuff off the top of the building, I want to see stunts like the giant velcro suit. Coco took the reigns where Dave left off and while I didn't laugh at every gag I sure liked Conan better than Leno. That said, I watched the interview and thought that O'Brien looked a bit needy and pathetic- I know the deal was raw but 30mil is a hell of a bandaid! __________________

4 May 2010, 01:00 PM	#26
dukester "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Nick Location: Los Angeles Watch: 2 SS Daytonas(W&B) Posts: 542	I am young (or atleast I think I am).......and I was never a fan of Conan. I do like Jay and am happy for him to be back in the 11:35 pm slot!!!!

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