Something loose inside my sub??!

[cdweller]

When I shake my sub, it sounds like there is something "clicking" or moving around, almost to the same effect as when you shake a can of spray paint. Now I know that the rotor is moving around to power the watch, but I am not sure if this sound is indicitive of a potential problem or not. Can anybody else comment - does their watch make this sound? The watch in question keeps good time (+3 secs/day). It was purchased brand new from an AD. Thanks for the advice in advance!!

[sakuraba]

I've never encountered this on any of my watches.

Did it make this sound before? How long has it been doing this?

I would take it to an AD/ watchmaker.

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Probably your rotor ax that needs replacing .

[lordcon]

Its probably the bracelet.

[cdweller]

I bought it new 7 months ago. I am pretty sure that it has made this noise the entire time, but I didn't really notice it until a month or two ago. I don't think it is the bracelet - the noise sounds localized to the head of the watch. Would a rotor axe need replacing this soon? It is a V-serial subLV so was probably produced in 2008 or 2009...

[sakuraba]

Since it's still under warranty, I'd send it back.

[Kokyuryoku]

To quote from JJ,

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Don't panic, Bro

The same thing happens with BOTH my Rollies. It's NOT the watch - it's the connecting lug-pin which has a certain amount of play within the lug space!!

Best way is to take off the bracelet and then shake the watch by ITSELF - NO CLICKING NOISE!!

Now relax!!

Here's the thread

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=22134

BTW, I thought the same thing when I bought my Sub, so I actually took it in to the RSC and they took the bracelet off and showed me. Congrats on the Sub

[Safetrends]

Check and see if the ETA movement came loose inside the case!

[cdweller]

Great idea, I will take off the bracelet tonight and report back... Thanks!

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

since it's still under warranty, i'd send it back.

x2

[kokota]

Originally Posted by cdweller

When I shake my sub, it sounds like there is something "clicking" or moving around, almost to the same effect as when you shake a can of spray paint. Now I know that the rotor is moving around to power the watch, but I am not sure if this sound is indicitive of a potential problem or not. Can anybody else comment - does their watch make this sound? The watch in question keeps good time (+3 secs/day). It was purchased brand new from an AD. Thanks for the advice in advance!!

Don't do anything!
It's perfectly normal and I'll tell you why....
I too purchased a V serial Sub LV a couple of months ago new from my AD. I noticed the same noise you speak of within 48 hrs of owning the watch and was also concerned.
My Sub functions properly and keeps almost perfect time.
Being the psycho that I am, stopped by another AD and asked to see the SS SubDate on display (V serial). I shook it and heard the identical noise!!!
Just to confirm I visited yet another AD and did the same thing , again with another V serial SS SubDate and there was that same sound again.

Interestingly enough, I've owned a Z serial and an M serial Sub LV in the past but never hear this noise. Never listened for it either to be honest.

Now...is that noise good or bad, I don't know, but I can tell you its not only yours

[mcubed]

my 14060 also makes this noise, which sounds like a slightly noisy rotor. Silent on the wrist, but I can hear it clatter next to my ear. When it happened I scoured the forums and people seemed split 50-50. One camp is the "there should be no rotor noise on a Rolex, so it MUST go in for service" the other camp was the "what are you talking about, all my subs make this noise" camp. and NO it is not the bracelet (in my case).

I have decided to take a "what would a normal (non-wis) person do?" attitude. I realized that a normal person would not a) obsessively shake their watch next to their ear or b) have ever heard the "silent rotor-worn axle argument". A normal person would put their watch on their wrist, then admire it, and maybe get it pressure tested every year. Incidentally, I also realized that a normal person would start the "service clock" when they purchased a watch, not from the serial (which a normal person would know nothing about), so a 3 year old watch from an AD does not need a service right away. So now I just take the advice of my very experienced and respected watchmaker "when it starts acting up, bring it back".

[BASSETHOUNDS]

[QUOTE=Kokyuryoku;1866538]To quote from JJ,

Great , use a quote from a man that has never heard a new bracelet squeak , but he hears a lug pin in the lug holes ???

[cdweller]

I am in no way a technical wiz when it comes to watches, but wouldn't this noise indicate that metal is hitting metal? And wouldn't this be a bad thing, especially over time?? I am just nervous to let it go and then find out it is a problem after the warranty runs out. Are many other people noticing this sound in their subs??

[JJ Irani]

[QUOTE=BASSETHOUNDS;1866820]

Originally Posted by Kokyuryoku

To quote from JJ,

Great , use a quote from a man that has never heard a new bracelet squeak , but he hears a lug pin in the lug holes ???

After 26 Rolexes over 30 years, I have yet to hear even one of my bracelets squeak!!

[tgoose1]

Put a finger from opposite hand between watch clasp and your wrist to take any slack out of band links etc. Shake to test for results, should sound different--alot quieter.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by cdweller

I am in no way a technical wiz when it comes to watches, but wouldn't this noise indicate that metal is hitting metal? And wouldn't this be a bad thing, especially over time?? I am just nervous to let it go and then find out it is a problem after the warranty runs out. Are many other people noticing this sound in their subs??

Like I said, RELAX. My brand new recent SS Sub-date also makes this clickety noise when I hold it firmly and shake it.

Read my quote above. That's exactly what it is!!

[cdweller]

Originally Posted by tgoose1

Put a finger from opposite hand between watch clasp and your wrist to take any slack out of band links etc. Shake to test for results, should sound different--alot quieter.

Nope, it sounds the same.

JJ, I will take the bracelet off tonight and give it a shake to test your theory. I gotta tell you though, the bracelet on this watch squeaked for the first 5 months of ownership!!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by cdweller

Nope, it sounds the same.

JJ, I will take the bracelet off tonight and give it a shake to test your theory. I gotta tell you though, the bracelet on this watch squeaked for the first 5 months of ownership!!

Yes, the best way to get total peace of mind, is to take off the entire bracelet and then shake only the watch. There will be no noise. Trust me, been there.........done that!!

[AndersB]

And if you find that the sound comes from inside the watch itself - it's probably ok anyway. Depends on how loud it is but I've heard a sound similar to what you described (a sort of clicking) from several Rolexes (with bracelets removed) including new ones. Shouldn't be too loud though. The sound I refer to probably can't be heard from more than say 50cm away from your ear.

[Kokyuryoku]

Originally Posted by cdweller

Nope, it sounds the same.

JJ, I will take the bracelet off tonight and give it a shake to test your theory. I gotta tell you though, the bracelet on this watch squeaked for the first 5 months of ownership!!

A squeaking bracelet is usually caused by dirt/dust build up, so it just needs a clean. Btw, the amount of build up is different for everyone

[Safetrends]

Maybe the bearings need to be lubed?

[andrew79]

JJ is right.. it's the bracelet. try to grab the bracelet tight and shake it.... you don't hear the noise anymore.

[mcubed]

Originally Posted by andrew79

JJ is right.. it's the bracelet. try to grab the bracelet tight and shake it.... you don't hear the noise anymore.

That might be true. But there is a rotor noise some of us hear that has 100% absolutely nothing to do with the bracelet.

[andrew79]

I tought so too at the first 2 weeks after the purchase... i thought something was off in the movement !!! I brought it back to the AD, they said nothing wrong with it.... several days after, I held the bracelet tight and shake it..... there was no that "particular" sound clicking noise anymore.... after that, i don't mind having the noise on my wrist, it keeps perfect time since i bought it a month ago ....
My GMT ii c doesn't make any noise at all, but it loses a few seconds everyday.... so... got me think real hard there LOL

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by andrew79

JJ is right.. it's the bracelet. try to grab the bracelet tight and shake it.... you don't hear the noise anymore.

Not necessarily!!

Even after holding the bracelet real right, the pins still go clickey-click!!

For 100% surity, you need to take off the bracelet and shake only the watch head.

JJ

[Kokyuryoku]

Originally Posted by mcubed

That might be true. But there is a rotor noise some of us hear that has 100% absolutely nothing to do with the bracelet.

Hmmmm interesting. I always thought that if you could hear the rotor, then that was an indication that the watch was .....










You must have great hearing The only thing I can hear is the pretty tick tick tick

[cdweller]

Well I went home and took the bracelet off last night and shook only the watch head.... and..............




....it still makes the clicking noise!! So it is definitely NOT the bracelet. Maybe I should take it into the AD just to be sure? Although this AD really didn't impress me, so my prediction is they will send me away, telling me it is normal. It sounds like a lot of people have experienced this, with no harm to their watches, so maybe I should relax. I just want to get all the "bugs" out before the warranty expires...

[ayres]

this is a rotor issue, and regardless of whether or not it harms the movement, the noise heard and felt when gently rocking the watch back-and-forth is not normal. just because it is still keeping accurate time is no reason to ignore it. have it taken care of...

[Andad]

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