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amanda · 20 February 2007, 08:56 PM

Hey photo experts

I went to Williamstown a few days ago and tried shooting some night scenes of the bay with the city in the background.. oh and a few boats too. I only had the kit lens on me so zoom not sooo great... anyone that knows this spot can vouch how far the city is from where I was standing...

Now the boats are a bit blurry due to the long shutter time... thats cool I get that.

Now the bit I'm not sure about is the large rings around the lights... is this a lens flare/dirty lens issue or to do with the exposure? The rings were visible regardless of what I shot and at what exposure... I've never had them appear this bad before - lens???

I've been practising for my HK trip on March 3rd.. gotta get some good Hong Kong Habour shots in!!!!

Here's another one

GerardoG · 21 February 2007, 01:49 AM

Hi there. I am no photo expert but like your pics!

charles · 21 February 2007, 01:59 AM

Hey Amanda...that's a flare...usually caused by one or more of lower end lens/glass, no lens hood, lens filter, etc. You can read some more about it here...
http://www.assap.org/newsite/htmlfiles/Mists.html
Nice shot...you can easily clean out the flare in Photoshop or the like if you want. I'd say straighten the horizon, up the exposure slightly with a curve and sharpen. Happy to take a pass at it for you if you'd like. Just let me know...

21 February 2007, 02:08 AM

They are very nice and I actually don't mind the flare that much.....gives it an artsy sort of look.

SLRdude · 21 February 2007, 02:09 AM

I kinda like the flares myself.
But like Charles said, 5 minutes in Photoshop can get rid of them if you want to.

SLRdude · 21 February 2007, 02:23 AM

vcm_dj · 21 February 2007, 02:30 AM

Hey there Chip, I looked at your other pics - Excellent work! Gotta ask you about your avatar: is Yoda a Mac guy? If he is, then I suspect you are too? I do my work on a dual 2GHz G5... Greetings from Austin! How's Big D?

-V

The Dude · 21 February 2007, 02:41 AM

Do you have a UV filter on your lens?

SLRdude · 21 February 2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vcm_dj

Hey there Chip, I looked at your other pics - Excellent work! Gotta ask you about your avatar: is Yoda a Mac guy? If he is, then I suspect you are too? I do my work on a dual 2GHz G5... Greetings from Austin! How's Big D?

-V

Mac all the way Brother!!

GerardoG · 21 February 2007, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by comatox

Mac all the way Brother!!

...so you mean there are other computers that are not Mac's??!?

Poor people, it's like owning a 2T Blue sub instead of the real deal; the 2T BLACK sub.

JJ Irani · 21 February 2007, 04:15 AM

fat-sam · 21 February 2007, 04:20 AM

i think it looks cool- i would have pretended i did it in purpose

vcm_dj · 21 February 2007, 04:32 AM

ALLRIGHT!!! Mac-Rolex Guys IN THE HOUSE!!

-V

GerardoG · 21 February 2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vcm_dj

ALLRIGHT!!! Mac-Rolex Guys IN THE HOUSE!!

-V

BEST of two worlds!

diablojota · 21 February 2007, 05:24 AM

I've got my MacBook Pro and my iMac G5 with iSight (which I am selling).

diablojota · 21 February 2007, 05:25 AM

I've got my MacBook Pro and my iMac G5 with iSight (which I am selling). I've been a Mac user since the first macintosh.

astcell · 21 February 2007, 05:30 AM

Over Christmas I got the $1999 MacBook Pro because I had a 25% off coupon. Who can pass that up!

Otis · 21 February 2007, 07:45 AM

hmm... interesting shots amanda, I like them! Especially the one with the tilted boat.
I wouldn't worry about the flares too much, but as patrick said try sticking a UV filter on your lens. Also, try doing a few spot-metered off the water shots, you will need a tripod as it's going to be an 4-8 second exposure, but you'd be amazed at how much colour there is in the world at night.

now show us more!

amanda · 21 February 2007, 09:16 AM

Thaks for all the comments guys.... to answer the questions/comments

I posted them exactly as they came out of the camera, knew the horizon was slopey but didnt bother fixing it! Call it lazy ...

No, no UV filter. Had a lens hood (but at night that wouldnt make any difference would it?) on and had the camera mounted on a Tripod...

These exposures were long.. most of them were 10+ seconds.. maybe a bit too long?

I really need to get my screen calibrated.. I'm looking at them at work now and they look totally different than at home. The second shot especially looks darker than I remembered it!

I am thinking of getting a Macbook when my current PC lease expires... given I only surf the net and am more interested in the photo stuff.. a Mac would probably be better for me. I dont play PC games or use PC specific software

amanda · 21 February 2007, 09:23 AM

OH CRAP I forgot to respond to Chip - Thanks Chip, your amendments make a huge difference to the shot!!!

nko51 · 25 February 2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by amanda

Hey photo experts

I went to Williamstown a few days ago and tried shooting some night scenes of the bay with the city in the background.. oh and a few boats too. I only had the kit lens on me so zoom not sooo great... anyone that knows this spot can vouch how far the city is from where I was standing...

Now the boats are a bit blurry due to the long shutter time... thats cool I get that.

Now the bit I'm not sure about is the large rings around the lights... is this a lens flare/dirty lens issue or to do with the exposure? The rings were visible regardless of what I shot and at what exposure... I've never had them appear this bad before - lens???

I've been practising for my HK trip on March 3rd.. gotta get some good Hong Kong Habour shots in!!!!

Here's another one

For night time shot's such as yours, you would do very well with a manual camera on a tripod, with a UV lens filter. A Leica rangefinder would make that look crystal clear. You would have to set your on shutter speed, F/stop, and focus.

amanda · 25 February 2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nko51

For night time shot's such as yours, you would do very well with a manual camera on a tripod, with a UV lens filter. A Leica rangefinder would make that look crystal clear. You would have to set your on shutter speed, F/stop, and focus.

Yep I used a Canon 350D on a tripod nko51 to even get those shots!!!

Gedanken · 25 February 2007, 10:58 AM

I don't mind the rings either, Amanda. Overall, a great shot, but lighting is understandably a challenge.

You would obviously get better results with your 50mm f/1.8 lens. The kit lens' f/4.0 aperture is way too small for that kind of shot IMHO. A filter would help, and also take your shots in RAW and use the bundled Canon software to post-process. That ought to give you an extra two F-stops of brightness, over and above what you get with the 1.8 lens.

amanda · 25 February 2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

I don't mind the rings either, Amanda. Overall, a great shot, but lighting is understandably a challenge.

You would obviously get better results with your 50mm f/1.8 lens. The kit lens' f/4.0 aperture is way too small for that kind of shot IMHO. A filter would help, and also take your shots in RAW and use the bundled Canon software to post-process. That ought to give you an extra two F-stops of brightness, over and above what you get with the 1.8 lens.

Thanks heaps James.. when in HK next weekend I'll give that a go! Hoping to come home with some decent shots

20 February 2007, 08:56 PM	#1
amanda Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,380	Some photo critique required.... Hey photo experts I went to Williamstown a few days ago and tried shooting some night scenes of the bay with the city in the background.. oh and a few boats too. I only had the kit lens on me so zoom not sooo great... anyone that knows this spot can vouch how far the city is from where I was standing... Now the boats are a bit blurry due to the long shutter time... thats cool I get that. Now the bit I'm not sure about is the large rings around the lights... is this a lens flare/dirty lens issue or to do with the exposure? The rings were visible regardless of what I shot and at what exposure... I've never had them appear this bad before - lens??? I've been practising for my HK trip on March 3rd.. gotta get some good Hong Kong Habour shots in!!!! Here's another one Last edited by amanda; 20 February 2007 at 09:03 PM.. Reason: i think my keyboard batteries are dying...

21 February 2007, 02:09 AM	#5
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	I kinda like the flares myself. But like Charles said, 5 minutes in Photoshop can get rid of them if you want to. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

21 February 2007, 02:23 AM	#6
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	__________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

21 February 2007, 02:30 AM	#7
vcm_dj Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Victor Location: Austin Watch: DateJust Posts: 116	May the Mac be with You Hey there Chip, I looked at your other pics - Excellent work! Gotta ask you about your avatar: is Yoda a Mac guy? If he is, then I suspect you are too? I do my work on a dual 2GHz G5... Greetings from Austin! How's Big D? -V

21 February 2007, 02:41 AM	#8
The Dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my own world Posts: 595	pretty cool Do you have a UV filter on your lens?

21 February 2007, 01:49 AM	#2
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Hi there. I am no photo expert but like your pics!

21 February 2007, 01:59 AM	#3
charles Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NC Posts: 445	Hey Amanda...that's a flare...usually caused by one or more of lower end lens/glass, no lens hood, lens filter, etc. You can read some more about it here... http://www.assap.org/newsite/htmlfiles/Mists.html Nice shot...you can easily clean out the flare in Photoshop or the like if you want. I'd say straighten the horizon, up the exposure slightly with a curve and sharpen. Happy to take a pass at it for you if you'd like. Just let me know...

21 February 2007, 02:08 AM	#4
---- Guest Posts: n/a	They are very nice and I actually don't mind the flare that much.....gives it an artsy sort of look.

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21 February 2007, 07:45 AM	#18
Otis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Urs Location: QLD AU Watch: Omega x 2 Posts: 2,046	hmm... interesting shots amanda, I like them! Especially the one with the tilted boat. I wouldn't worry about the flares too much, but as patrick said try sticking a UV filter on your lens. Also, try doing a few spot-metered off the water shots, you will need a tripod as it's going to be an 4-8 second exposure, but you'd be amazed at how much colour there is in the world at night. now show us more! __________________ Rock the Casbah!

21 February 2007, 09:16 AM	#19
amanda Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,380	Thaks for all the comments guys.... to answer the questions/comments I posted them exactly as they came out of the camera, knew the horizon was slopey but didnt bother fixing it! Call it lazy ... No, no UV filter. Had a lens hood (but at night that wouldnt make any difference would it?) on and had the camera mounted on a Tripod... These exposures were long.. most of them were 10+ seconds.. maybe a bit too long? I really need to get my screen calibrated.. I'm looking at them at work now and they look totally different than at home. The second shot especially looks darker than I remembered it! I am thinking of getting a Macbook when my current PC lease expires... given I only surf the net and am more interested in the photo stuff.. a Mac would probably be better for me. I dont play PC games or use PC specific software Last edited by amanda; 21 February 2007 at 09:17 AM.. Reason: added the Mac part

21 February 2007, 09:23 AM	#20
amanda Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,380	OH CRAP I forgot to respond to Chip - Thanks Chip, your amendments make a huge difference to the shot!!!

25 February 2007, 10:58 AM	#23
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	I don't mind the rings either, Amanda. Overall, a great shot, but lighting is understandably a challenge. You would obviously get better results with your 50mm f/1.8 lens. The kit lens' f/4.0 aperture is way too small for that kind of shot IMHO. A filter would help, and also take your shots in RAW and use the bundled Canon software to post-process. That ought to give you an extra two F-stops of brightness, over and above what you get with the 1.8 lens. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

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