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Old 11 August 2010, 08:22 PM   #1
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Replacement Case

I need thoughts, opinions, arguments...anything on the topic of buying a Rolex with a replacement case.

My point is I'm looking at a 16750 all original except the case has been replaced, no papers.

No serial number......but it had an "R" with 3 numbers in place of the serial number.

How does Rolex authenticate/service/repair watches with replacement cases?

Anyone have any experience with this. What should you look for?

Most threads on the forum are about all original watches.......

thanks in advance
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Old 11 August 2010, 08:27 PM   #2
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Be real carefull!

Replacement cases are usually marked 4.4 or 4.7 million serials.

Also a replacement case without the paperwork to prove it makes the watch worth less a tremendous ammount of money.
In fact it won't have more value than the value of its movement, bezel and bracelet.

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Old 11 August 2010, 08:52 PM   #3
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Old 11 August 2010, 09:32 PM   #4
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Without full documentation from RSC I would not be interested. Also, as stated already, I believe the s/n should start with a 4 for replacement cases.
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Old 12 August 2010, 01:40 AM   #5
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replacement cases are not uncommon on early watches... the caseback sealing area was prone to corrosion.

The only place that a replacement case comes from, is the RSC, and so.. if authentic, then they would know if it was genuine or not..

There is nothing wrong with a re-cased watch, except of course, for collectors who are collecting only original and pristine examples.. A new case can be the difference between a functional time-piece and a non-functional paperweight..
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Old 12 August 2010, 01:44 AM   #6
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Larry, you always have the best answers and replies.....to questions!!!
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Old 14 August 2010, 09:35 PM   #7
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replacement cases are not uncommon on early watches... the caseback sealing area was prone to corrosion.

The only place that a replacement case comes from, is the RSC, and so.. if authentic, then they would know if it was genuine or not..

There is nothing wrong with a re-cased watch, except of course, for collectors who are collecting only original and pristine examples.. A new case can be the difference between a functional time-piece and a non-functional paperweight..
Thanks all for the answers people....

So Larry, this is not for collectors purposes.......strickly for my own pleasure.
If the watch gets opened up....is there anyway to tell inside that the case comes from a RSC? There is no documentation with the watch...
As a few other members stated...should there be any type of serial number on the case? And how is a replacement case identified this way.
The seller was honest and told me it was a replacement....I just want to make sure its a RSC replacement......

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Replacement cases use to start with 44XXXXX so a R and 3 digits are not good IMHO.
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Old 15 August 2010, 02:08 PM   #9
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Replacement cases use to start with 44XXXXX so a R and 3 digits are not good IMHO.
Thanks Jocke

And everyone else.........
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Thanks Jocke

And everyone else.........
Jocke and Jack are correct as far as the community consensus goes......... replacement cases were 44xxxxx and then went to 47xxxxx, and there has not been any talk of other numbers..

So, being recased by Rolex, and a "replacement" case aren't always the same thing........... Sounds like this one may be an authentic movement in a replica/generic case...
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Old 20 August 2010, 08:10 PM   #11
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Just as a follow up......I went back to see the 16750.

The number/code marked at the 6 o'clock position was RM 760. anyone ever heard of this???

It was told to me by the lady that the case was changed by Rolex Manila and that no documentation was available

So I think I will pass......
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I need thoughts, opinions, arguments...anything on the topic of buying a Rolex with a replacement case.

My point is I'm looking at a 16750 all original except the case has been replaced, no papers.

No serial number......but it had an "R" with 3 numbers in place of the serial number.

How does Rolex authenticate/service/repair watches with replacement cases?

Anyone have any experience with this. What should you look for?

Most threads on the forum are about all original watches.......

thanks in advance
Very simple answer its not original if it has a replacement case - buy another one with the original case there are thousands on the market it would be unwise decision to buy THIS one only.
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