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Old 28 August 2010, 08:04 AM   #1
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What a way to be treated!!

I am really annoyed with this AD.
I bought my DJ from them 4 years ago, and had phoned then last week about a new purchase and they were very helpfull, discussing my DJ and a service they were going to have a look at it and give me a new valuation whilst I looked at what I might purchase from them...

I sent them an email this week asking if they had an Explorer II in stock (as this is what I thought I had settled on) fine they said pop in and try it on!

I looked at there website and it said Fri they were open until 6.00, I had my son with me today and after work we made our way to there shop (Friday traffic wasnt good) but got there at 5.30. As we entered the shope I asked for the person by name I had spoken to, she remembered our email and phone conversation and sat us down.....I was so excited to having an Explorer II on my wrist it was untrue.

As she sat us down I asked about the Explorer II and she remembered, but informed me the Watches were put away in the safe and were unavailable to try on.... I kept cool and told her that I had phoned and emailed her and told her I wanted to try one on.."Sorry but they have been put away".."But i have driven throught all the traffic to get here"....
"Sorry we cant get them out"....WTF
I told her the website said they are open untill 6.00pm thinking thry wouldnt want to miss a sale....

No way, the manager came out to say sorry, but they were in a time lock safe!!!

I was gobsmacked, I might have pulled the trigger on one...now I and going to search TRF AD's instead!!!!
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What are they thinking

I have been surprised by the lack of initiative of retailers lately. In the USA, there is a major recession with many people out of work, but some retailers act like they are doing you a favor to sell their products.
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Old 28 August 2010, 08:12 AM   #3
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Sorry to hear of your experience.

IMHO it sounds like they weren't expecting any more in-store traffic and put their inventory away for the day.

Did you tell them what time you were dropping by?

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Yep, straight to someone who wants to sell watches. I would have politely voiced my displeasure and intent to go elswhere for a purchase.

Time lock safe indeed.
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I told her the website said they are open untill 6.00pm thinking thry wouldnt want to miss a sale....

No way, the manager came out to say sorry, but they were in a time lock safe!!!
I guess they wanted to go home after a hard day of standing around not selling watches.
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X 2. I'd send a letter to Rolex and send a copy the manager/owner of the store, saying they had lost a customer. The advertisement said open until 6:00, not open for chit chat until 6:00 but only open for trying on watches until 5:30. I really think Rolex would take a very dim view of thier ADs operating in this manner. And all that time-lock safe $(@* is exactly that, a bunch of
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Old 28 August 2010, 10:51 AM   #9
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Well, I'm going to wade in here on the side of the AD. When it comes to taking out time, especially if it's a jeweller as well, an AD has to take out a huge amount of stock and put it in the safe. It's a very time consuming job, I often have to take 30-40 minutes at the end of the day to transfer stuff from the window to the safe. I suppose, depending on insurance terms, that they could be required to take the Rolexes out first - it's a very vulnerable period of time for any jeweller, and I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get them locked up first.

As for the closing time, we start taking out before closing time as well - we'd be there all night otherwise, especially if there is a late customer. Sales staff have homes to go to as well, and if an AD had to keep staff on for an extra half an hour past the advertised closing time, that means an extra half hours pay for each member of staff. Add that up over the course of the year, it starts to get expensive. It's very, very rare for a serious customer to come in after 5 o'clock and make a big purchase, it simply doesn't make sense to stay open for longer than you have to. Opening hours are often dictated by whomever the shop is rented from, especially so in shopping centres - a frustrating situation if you get no custom after a particular time.

Courtesy goes two ways - a call to let them know you were on your way could perhaps have avoided this - it wouldn't be much of a problem for them to keep the watch in question out.

Sorry to hear you had a wasted trip

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Old 28 August 2010, 12:36 PM   #10
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I had that happen when I was wanting to buy. Went someplace else and bought.
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Old 28 August 2010, 12:40 PM   #11
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I guess they wanted to go home after a hard day of standing around not selling watches.
This is one of the funniest things I have read in days
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Old 28 August 2010, 12:41 PM   #12
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Well, I'm going to wade in here on the side of the AD. When it comes to taking out time, especially if it's a jeweller as well, an AD has to take out a huge amount of stock and put it in the safe. It's a very time consuming job, I often have to take 30-40 minutes at the end of the day to transfer stuff from the window to the safe. I suppose, depending on insurance terms, that they could be required to take the Rolexes out first - it's a very vulnerable period of time for any jeweller, and I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get them locked up first.

As for the closing time, we start taking out before closing time as well - we'd be there all night otherwise, especially if there is a late customer. Sales staff have homes to go to as well, and if an AD had to keep staff on for an extra half an hour past the advertised closing time, that means an extra half hours pay for each member of staff. Add that up over the course of the year, it starts to get expensive. It's very, very rare for a serious customer to come in after 5 o'clock and make a big purchase, it simply doesn't make sense to stay open for longer than you have to. Opening hours are often dictated by whomever the shop is rented from, especially so in shopping centres - a frustrating situation if you get no custom after a particular time.

Courtesy goes two ways - a call to let them know you were on your way could perhaps have avoided this - it wouldn't be much of a problem for them to keep the watch in question out.

Sorry to hear you had a wasted trip

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Maybe close a half hour earlier if you can only spend so much on labor.
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Old 28 August 2010, 12:44 PM   #13
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Maybe close a half hour earlier if you can only spend so much on labor.
I agree. If they are going to have the watches put-away at 5:30pm, then they should close at that time. Poor form

Buy from DavidSW or one of the other power sellers on this forum. That AD just saved you a TON of money.
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Old 28 August 2010, 01:50 PM   #14
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I would stay away from the AD. It's actually a good thing, they kept you from overpaying for a new Rolex. DAVIDSW is the guy you need to contact.
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Old 28 August 2010, 02:46 PM   #15
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Thanks for posting that, I'm sure it has let customers in the UK know to scratch your

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Well, I'm going to wade in here on the side of the AD. When it comes to taking out time, especially if it's a jeweller as well, an AD has to take out a huge amount of stock and put it in the safe. It's a very time consuming job, I often have to take 30-40 minutes at the end of the day to transfer stuff from the window to the safe. I suppose, depending on insurance terms, that they could be required to take the Rolexes out first - it's a very vulnerable period of time for any jeweller, and I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get them locked up first.

As for the closing time, we start taking out before closing time as well - we'd be there all night otherwise, especially if there is a late customer. Sales staff have homes to go to as well, and if an AD had to keep staff on for an extra half an hour past the advertised closing time, that means an extra half hours pay for each member of staff. Add that up over the course of the year, it starts to get expensive. It's very, very rare for a serious customer to come in after 5 o'clock and make a big purchase, it simply doesn't make sense to stay open for longer than you have to. Opening hours are often dictated by whomever the shop is rented from, especially so in shopping centres - a frustrating situation if you get no custom after a particular time.

Courtesy goes two ways - a call to let them know you were on your way could perhaps have avoided this - it wouldn't be much of a problem for them to keep the watch in question out.

Sorry to hear you had a wasted trip

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store off their list of places to shop too! ;-) Sorry, stores are there for the customer's convenience, not the owners or staff. You want the customer's money, you don't treat him/her like an intruder on your precious time.
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Old 28 August 2010, 03:06 PM   #16
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Unbelievable that these fools thought you would remain their customer for luxury

goods after being told TWO lies and insulted to your face! The first lie was that they are 'open' until 6:00. A store is not 'open' if you can't conduct any business there, just get brushed off and sneered at. The second lie was that crock of $#!t about a 'time-lock safe'. Amazing. 'We figure you must be stupid to have bought your first watch here, so we can tell you any completely moronic lie we can think up and you'll swallow it'.

I think it would be a service to the forum members to let us know who and where these clowns are. Thanks. :-)
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Old 28 August 2010, 03:13 PM   #17
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wow. i had a similar experience when I bought my harley. the sales staff had left early for the day and the person "helping" me wanted me to come back another day. One of the loan people stepped up and helped me and he got the sale and obviously the commission. Go somewhere else, you should be treated like a valued customer and be catered to
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That senario is strange.

My AD is closed on Sundays but offered to open the shop if it was convenient for me.
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I never spend my money were they make me feel rushed,or like they are doing me a favor.I always buy from the same jeweler he's not an AD ,but has more Rolexes in stock than even they do. He closes at 7pm and if I get there at 7:30 he will show me a watch. I've already sent 3 friends that have bought rolexes from him,he has great people skills and loves what he does.
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devils advocate for a minute .. if the trip was anything other than local and convenient why didn't you just make a common sense phone call to say you were coming late in the day to look at a specific watch ... they could equally have sold it at 4.30pm to someone else ?
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This reminds me of when I wanted to buy my first Rolex about four years ago. I was only 21 and my girlfriend and I went to the local AD, the only one in my area. I had $5000 cash in my pocket ready to make a deal. When I walked in they were just begining to put away all the watches but the SS Sub that I wanted was still in the display case. When I asked the sales lady to see the watch she sighed and rolled her eyes. I waved the pile of cash at her and told he I was planning on buying the watch right then.

This left a sour taste in my mouth and that is why I didn't buy one for 4 years.
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Old 28 August 2010, 06:35 PM   #22
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Well after sleeping on it I can now see the funny side of it :)

It does amaze me what they were thinking, but I guess Friday evening they were expecting to go home on time!!! Maybe I should have called but it was a bit of a lst miniute decesion to go anyway...

What makes me laugh is that I have a used car showroom, now I do understand about people walking in wanting to have a test drive (I always ask them as many questions as they ask me before letting them have a drive otherwise you end up with people just wanting to go for a "joy ride")..But if someone is serious about a car of course i'll have to come out for a drive!! Thats how I earn my living...

My wife said to write a strong letter to Rolex and to the AD, I did say i might get a desent discount!!

But as has been said on here there are some good deals and trusted sellers to deal with so I will try that



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store off their list of places to shop too! ;-) Sorry, stores are there for the customer's convenience, not the owners or staff. You want the customer's money, you don't treat him/her like an intruder on your precious time.
No offence Chris, but if you were running a jewellery shop, you'd be doing the same. As I say, business goes dead after 5, it's very rare that people come in after that time. And just to let you know, if a customer does come in after we start taking out, we'll still get something out for them if the doors are open - doesn't take long to get something back out of the safe.

I never said that what the AD in question did was perfect, but they apologised, and I don't feel they were being snooty about it. I was defending them because I didn't want this to become a usual one-sided TRF AD bashing thread.
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Maybe close a half hour earlier if you can only spend so much on labor.
My point is that they can't. Opening hours are often out of an ADs control. Why stay around any longer than you have to when it's a near certainty that no-one will make a purchase?
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wow they use time safes for rolexes???
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Well, I'm going to wade in here on the side of the AD. When it comes to taking out time, especially if it's a jeweller as well, an AD has to take out a huge amount of stock and put it in the safe. It's a very time consuming job, I often have to take 30-40 minutes at the end of the day to transfer stuff from the window to the safe. I suppose, depending on insurance terms, that they could be required to take the Rolexes out first - it's a very vulnerable period of time for any jeweller, and I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get them locked up first.

As for the closing time, we start taking out before closing time as well - we'd be there all night otherwise, especially if there is a late customer. Sales staff have homes to go to as well, and if an AD had to keep staff on for an extra half an hour past the advertised closing time, that means an extra half hours pay for each member of staff. Add that up over the course of the year, it starts to get expensive. It's very, very rare for a serious customer to come in after 5 o'clock and make a big purchase, it simply doesn't make sense to stay open for longer than you have to. Opening hours are often dictated by whomever the shop is rented from, especially so in shopping centres - a frustrating situation if you get no custom after a particular time.

Courtesy goes two ways - a call to let them know you were on your way could perhaps have avoided this - it wouldn't be much of a problem for them to keep the watch in question out.

Sorry to hear you had a wasted trip

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I work with customers as well. I just had the opportunity to work another late Friday at the last minute, I found myself declining because of a prior committment I made my wife.

Sometimes a bit of understanding should go both ways.

You can always go somewhere else, or you can work with them and you may find they may actually provide you with great customer service.
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This reminds me of when I wanted to buy my first Rolex about four years ago. I was only 21 and my girlfriend and I went to the local AD, the only one in my area. I had $5000 cash in my pocket ready to make a deal. When I walked in they were just begining to put away all the watches but the SS Sub that I wanted was still in the display case. When I asked the sales lady to see the watch she sighed and rolled her eyes. I waved the pile of cash at her and told he I was planning on buying the watch right then.

This left a sour taste in my mouth and that is why I didn't buy one for 4 years.
i wonder if it made an difference to her , she prob still got her wages at the end of the month ,,, ill bet the owner would have been more pleasant .
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Its not just in the rolex world, i go thru the same b.s all the time. Stores are all making cut backs and they try to get sales help for dirt cheap. Well who do you think is going to work for 6 bucks an hour. Wouldnt you love to see how the hiring interview went, sometimes i think it was like..... ok you have a heart beat and a pulse,..well then your hired.
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got to say if it was me I would have rung in advance to see if they still had the watch for sale before I made a journey through heavy traffic, especially as you had contact with them before
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Well, I'm going to wade in here on the side of the AD. When it comes to taking out time, especially if it's a jeweller as well, an AD has to take out a huge amount of stock and put it in the safe. It's a very time consuming job, I often have to take 30-40 minutes at the end of the day to transfer stuff from the window to the safe. I suppose, depending on insurance terms, that they could be required to take the Rolexes out first - it's a very vulnerable period of time for any jeweller, and I wouldn't blame them for wanting to get them locked up first.

As for the closing time, we start taking out before closing time as well - we'd be there all night otherwise, especially if there is a late customer. Sales staff have homes to go to as well, and if an AD had to keep staff on for an extra half an hour past the advertised closing time, that means an extra half hours pay for each member of staff. Add that up over the course of the year, it starts to get expensive. It's very, very rare for a serious customer to come in after 5 o'clock and make a big purchase, it simply doesn't make sense to stay open for longer than you have to. Opening hours are often dictated by whomever the shop is rented from, especially so in shopping centres - a frustrating situation if you get no custom after a particular time.

Courtesy goes two ways - a call to let them know you were on your way could perhaps have avoided this - it wouldn't be much of a problem for them to keep the watch in question out.

Sorry to hear you had a wasted trip

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Wow! The ADs over here are open until 8 pm and you can try watches on right up to 8 pm! I find it strange that you don't continue working once the doors are closed. I guess they have a different work ethic over here. Did you ever think that the reason no one comes into the shop after 5 pm is because you've put all the stock away? Just a thought.
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