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Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 02:58 AM

Hi folks, going to the RSC in New York this week. I was initially going to have a watch authenticated (AD's in Boston can't do this...!!), but I probably will also have it serviced now. Do you recommend I bring the original paperwork, or is the watch by itself fine? Any other things you think I should consider? Thanks

padi56 · 8 September 2010, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijssan

Hi folks, going to the RSC in New York this week. I was initially going to have a watch authenticated (AD's in Boston can't do this...!!), but I probably will also have it serviced now. Do you recommend I bring the original paperwork, or is the watch by itself fine? Any other things you think I should consider? Thanks

First why do you want to have your watch authenticated did you buy it from a unreliable source.If you already own and paid for the watch its a bit late now to have it authenticated.If you have it serviced then just the watch will do don't need the paperwork unless its warranty work in the first two years since new. And when they service it you will have Rolex service papers when your watch is returned to you if your watch is a authentic Rolex.

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 03:20 AM

Thanks - the authentication is a formality tbh. I'm 99.9% sure it is authentic, but as I spent a lot of money I just wanted to have that step in there for my own peace of mind. Anyway as per your point that won't be necessary with the service. The watch is 15 years old and although it came with original papers, boxes etc no records of a service, hence I want to have one done.

padi56 · 8 September 2010, 03:44 AM

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Thanks - the authentication is a formality tbh. I'm 99.9% sure it is authentic, but as I spent a lot of money I just wanted to have that step in there for my own peace of mind. Anyway as per your point that won't be necessary with the service. The watch is 15 years old and although it came with original papers, boxes etc no records of a service, hence I want to have one done.

Always wise when a watch is over 5/7 years with no service history to have it serviced.Now some ADs and RSC charge $75 plus for authentication,which IMHO is daylight robbery.If you go to direct to a RSC and ask for a service estimate they will open the case,then give you a price.When they give you a price you will know your watch is genuine and you save $75 plus.

Art161 · 8 September 2010, 04:40 AM

If it isn't authentic, would NY RSC confiscate the watch on the spot?

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 05:42 AM

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Always wise when a watch is over 5/7 years with no service history to have it serviced.Now some ADs and RSC charge $75 plus for authentication,which IMHO is daylight robbery.If you go to direct to a RSC and ask for a service estimate they will open the case,then give you a price.When they give you a price you will know your watch is genuine and you save $75 plus.

Agreed. NYC charges 150 for the authentication alone... I'm concerned what they will quote for the service tbh...

R1@160@alltimes · 8 September 2010, 05:54 AM

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Agreed. NYC charges 150 for the authentication alone... I'm concerned what they will quote for the service tbh...

I believe it is upwards of $650 nowadays for routine service

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 09:31 AM

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I believe it is upwards of $650 nowadays for routine service

I suspect it may be quite a bit north of that. Will find out soon enough :)

onkyo · 8 September 2010, 09:39 AM

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I suspect it may be quite a bit north of that. Will find out soon enough :)

It should not be unless parts are needed.

What ref is your watch?

flathead59 · 8 September 2010, 10:01 AM

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I suspect it may be quite a bit north of that. Will find out soon enough :)

A full service, including case tube and crown, on my GMT Master II was quoted at $550 by Dallas RSC a couple of months ago. It ended up being $165 more because I wanted the glass changed also.

Mark

mountainrivera · 8 September 2010, 10:10 AM

Rolex rotors (at least the two I owned) are pretty much silent. Wind the watch on your wrist and see if you hear it. If not, that is a good start :) Caveat: I am no expert so those with tons more experience please correct me.

Tools · 8 September 2010, 10:41 AM

You do not need any paperwork........

Unless it is warranty work, taking any paper into an RSC is irrelevant..........All they are concerned with is the watch..

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 10:42 AM

It's a 16520 with the 4030 movement...

Tools · 8 September 2010, 10:44 AM

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It's a 16520 with the 4030 movement...

Daytona Service starts at 750 and goes up.........

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 11:07 AM

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Daytona Service starts at 750 and goes up.........

The going up bit is what I'm afraid of.... ;)

Tools · 8 September 2010, 11:09 AM

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The going up bit is what I'm afraid of.... ;)

If it's in good condition and has been taken care of, it will likely be very close to that. Costs go up with older models in need of broken parts replacement from neglect.......

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 11:27 AM

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If it's in good condition and has been taken care of, it will likely be very close to that. Costs go up with older models in need of broken parts replacement from neglect.......

It certainly looks like it has been taken care of. Only thing is that you can hear the rotor quite well (when you listen for it). Anyway, time will tell...

Tools · 8 September 2010, 12:07 PM

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It certainly looks like it has been taken care of. Only thing is that you can hear the rotor quite well (when you listen for it). Anyway, time will tell...

The 4030 is based on the Zenith El Primero movement and has a noisy rotor.. It's a pretty well known characteristic of this movement .........

Tijssan · 8 September 2010, 12:26 PM

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The 4030 is based on the Zenith El Primero movement and has a noisy rotor.. It's a pretty well known characteristic of this movement .........

That is very reassuring!!!

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions, much appreciated

8 September 2010, 02:58 AM	#1
Tijssan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: GMT+8 Watch: this... Posts: 770	Going to RSC in NYC Hi folks, going to the RSC in New York this week. I was initially going to have a watch authenticated (AD's in Boston can't do this...!!), but I probably will also have it serviced now. Do you recommend I bring the original paperwork, or is the watch by itself fine? Any other things you think I should consider? Thanks

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8 September 2010, 10:41 AM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	You do not need any paperwork........ Unless it is warranty work, taking any paper into an RSC is irrelevant..........All they are concerned with is the watch.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 September 2010, 03:20 AM	#3
Tijssan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: GMT+8 Watch: this... Posts: 770	Thanks - the authentication is a formality tbh. I'm 99.9% sure it is authentic, but as I spent a lot of money I just wanted to have that step in there for my own peace of mind. Anyway as per your point that won't be necessary with the service. The watch is 15 years old and although it came with original papers, boxes etc no records of a service, hence I want to have one done.

8 September 2010, 10:10 AM	#11
mountainrivera "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Mike Location: Staten Island Posts: 256	Rolex rotors (at least the two I owned) are pretty much silent. Wind the watch on your wrist and see if you hear it. If not, that is a good start :) Caveat: I am no expert so those with tons more experience please correct me.

8 September 2010, 10:42 AM	#13
Tijssan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: GMT+8 Watch: this... Posts: 770	It's a 16520 with the 4030 movement...

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