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dnagwhogas · 6 October 2010, 03:20 AM

I recently got me a TT DJ 16013 jubillee and I wonder if I could get an TT oyster band for "variety" so to speak. I couldn't find any OEM ones on Ebay, none on the classifieds here, googled it but no success, so I called an RSC here in Chicago. So....my jaw dropped when they told me a new one would cost $2200-2400 dollars (more than what I paid for the watch) PLUS I have to trade in my old gold Jubillee band? And I asked him if I could keep my jubillee band etc... they said that I have to trade my old one, plus I have to leave the watch etc.... I'm shocked! He said that the "trade" doesn't apply to the non-gold ones etc....

Could anyone tell me why this is the case??????

Thanks!

chris russell · 6 October 2010, 03:58 AM

Only reason I can think of is they don't want component parts, (including bracelets), floating around that could possibly give a fake more perceived 'authenticity'. But 22-2400 beans for a bracelet is a lotta moola. Ouch.

drtooth73 · 6 October 2010, 04:09 AM

i was quoted $3000 for a TT submariner bracelet, never heard about trading one in, i am assuming Rolex USA takes the bracelet off and keeps it if you you send to them for replacement with the actual watch.
ebay has those once in a while.

Watch Professor · 6 October 2010, 05:14 AM

Didn't know that there was an RSC in Chicago. I thought that the only two are in NY and Dallas.

dnagwhogas · 6 October 2010, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch Professor

Didn't know that there was an RSC in Chicago. I thought that the only two are in NY and Dallas.

Me too! I just found out here at TRF!

Rolex Authorized Service Center
30 N Michigan Ave # 601
Chicago, IL 60602-3806
(312) 782-7768

Warnsboy · 6 October 2010, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Me too! I just found out here at TRF!

Rolex Authorized Service Center
30 N Michigan Ave # 601
Chicago, IL 60602-3806
(312) 782-7768

A local AD recently hired a rolex technician who worked and trained at Rolex Geneva for 5 years and the AD now advertises as a "Rolex Authorized Service Center". They will do warranty repair, service and send the watch back in the same service box with goodies and a Rolex service warranty card as you would receive from RSC Dallas.

rxonmymind · 6 October 2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

I recently got me a TT DJ 16013 jubillee and I wonder if I could get an TT oyster band for "variety" so to speak. I couldn't find any OEM ones on Ebay, none on the classifieds here, googled it but no success, so I called an RSC here in Chicago. So....my jaw dropped when they told me a new one would cost $2200-2400 dollars (more than what I paid for the watch) PLUS I have to trade in my old gold Jubillee band? And I asked him if I could keep my jubillee band etc... they said that I have to trade my old one, plus I have to leave the watch etc.... I'm shocked! He said that the "trade" doesn't apply to the non-gold ones etc....

Could anyone tell me why this is the case??????

Thanks!

WOW! That's step price. With the price of gold as is is, this will cost you more than the $2200 they quoted. Something doesn't sound right here. $2200
on top of the mandatory trade in of a 18k watchband?
You better off going with a after market ITALIAN oyster bracelet as they have had a long history of contributing to Rolex. So long as your not attempting to "sell" obsfucate, or lie about the origin of said aftermarket bracelet, you should go that route. Same quality & Itaian bracelt have a long history of contributing to fine watchmakers. Unless you MUST have an oem.

wuzzzer · 6 October 2010, 10:49 AM

Rolex does usually make you send the watch to them so that they can verify the bracelet is being installed on a genuine Rolex. Nothing unusual there.

As far as price, not sure what you were expecting a solid 18k/steel bracelet to cost?

I know of a gentleman who has an older Day-Date and his bracelet was so worn that he had to replace it. The new bracelet cost nearly as much as he originally paid for the entire watch.

hhh007 · 6 October 2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Watch Professor

Didn't know that there was an RSC in Chicago. I thought that the only two are in NY and Dallas.

The RSC in Chicago is independently owned as opposed to the corporate ones in Dallas and NY. They go under the name 'Sutter's Watch Repair' and are a full RSC offering the same Rolex warranty and have full access to Rolex parts. They have been around for a very long time as I remember using them as far back as the early/mid 80's. They just recently moved from the heart of "Jewelers Row" at Wabash and Washington over to North Michigan Ave. just a couple blocks away.

Bon Temps · 6 October 2010, 11:33 AM

Its probably splitting hairs but Sutter's is not a "full RSC" they are a Rolex authorized service center. This is actually very different than a Rolex Service Center.

tomchicago · 6 October 2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Me too! I just found out here at TRF!

Rolex Authorized Service Center
30 N Michigan Ave # 601
Chicago, IL 60602-3806
(312) 782-7768

hmm...I thought this was just a regular watchmaker place

hhh007 · 6 October 2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bon Temps

Its probably splitting hairs but Sutter's is not a "full RSC" they are a Rolex authorized service center. This is actually very different than a Rolex Service Center.

By "full RSC" I meant to convey they are able to perform many of the same basic services as the Dallas and NY offices such as servicing, repair work, refinishing, full parts availability, etc. I'm sure just based on their office size and number of personnel alone (from what I could tell) they are not exactly alike.

therolexguy · 6 October 2010, 01:33 PM

I would think you could get a bracelet without sending in your old one. Try another AD and see if they can simply order it for you.

Aeternitas · 6 October 2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by therolexguy

I would think you could get a bracelet without sending in your old one. Try another AD and see if they can simply order it for you.

Or you could do what I did and take the current bracelet off the watch before sending it in.

Alcan · 7 October 2010, 08:01 AM

Could be worse. When I asked the Toronto RSC about a new bracelet for my 1630, they said they hadn't sold one in 3 years and would have to contact the Mothership in Switzerland to see whether a replacement was available.

They called me later and said:

a - a replacement bracelet is available, has to be ordered from Geneva

b - the new bracelet is $3,400 exchange

c - they can't order the new bracelet until they have the watch with the old bracelet in their custody.

The watch still has the original bracelet on it. I even contacted Michael Young in H.K. and was told that the 1630 bracelet is the only one they don't refurbish. Got a feeling the watch is going to find its way to Bob Ridley soon.

Submarino · 7 October 2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Me too! I just found out here at TRF!

Rolex Authorized Service Center
30 N Michigan Ave # 601
Chicago, IL 60602-3806
(312) 782-7768

Not a Rolex Service Center!! Who's the AD?

Submarino · 7 October 2010, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

Could be worse. When I asked the Toronto RSC about a new bracelet for my 1630, they said they hadn't sold one in 3 years and would have to contact the Mothership in Switzerland to see whether a replacement was available.

They called me later and said:

a - a replacement bracelet is available, has to be ordered from Geneva

b - the new bracelet is $3,400 exchange

c - they can't order the new bracelet until they have the watch with the old bracelet in their custody.

The watch still has the original bracelet on it. I even contacted Michael Young in H.K. and was told that the 1630 bracelet is the only one they don't
refurbish. Got a feeling the watch is going to find its way to Bob Ridley soon.

That bracelet looks different to the original two-tone bracelet on the OQ. There shouldn't be a middle gold link in between the other two.

www.oysterquartz.net

G.D.BeanCounter · 7 October 2010, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Me too! I just found out here at TRF!

Rolex Authorized Service Center
30 N Michigan Ave # 601
Chicago, IL 60602-3806
(312) 782-7768

Rolex Authorized Service Center
Robert H. Mills, Inc.
1866 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19103

Art161 · 7 October 2010, 02:37 PM

I think that only a RSC can issue the Rolex warranty for service. The independently owned San Francisco RSC does that.

dnagwhogas · 7 October 2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

That bracelet looks different to the original two-tone bracelet on the OQ. There shouldn't be a middle gold link in between the other two.

www.oysterquartz.net

Hmmm...interesting. There must be several versions because the one that I "had" had the gold link in between the same as AL's above.
(I miss this watch...sniff...sniff...sniff...)

Richard. · 7 October 2010, 03:06 PM

At service I was quoted $7000 exchange for a new 18ct Jubilee (which I declined). I recently enquirer about a new 18ct Oyster (not exchange) and was asked a mind-blowing $16000! (Also declined).

marcinthemiddle · 7 October 2010, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

That bracelet looks different to the original two-tone bracelet on the OQ. There shouldn't be a middle gold link in between the other two.

www.oysterquartz.net

Perhaps because Al's watch is an "Oyster Perpetual" and not an "Oyster Quartz"?

dnagwhogas · 7 October 2010, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcinthemiddle

Perhaps because All's watch is an "Oyster Perpetual" and not an "Oyster Quartz"?

True true....that's possible.

Submarino · 8 October 2010, 11:54 AM

I didn't know they made the automatic datejust on the OQ case. I thought it was only the Date right before the OQ was launched. I guess we never stop learning at TRF.

Alcan · 8 October 2010, 08:30 PM

You guys have nailed it, it isn't an OysterQuartz. Its a pre-OQ 1630 Datejust, very short production run, caliber 1575 non-quickset automatic movement in an essentially prototype OQ case. Also, by the way, the first Rolex to be fitted with a sapphire crystal.

http://www.oysterquartz.net/the_1530_&_1630.htm

Art 1 · 8 October 2010, 08:31 PM

Welcome to the world of Rolex.

ev8296 · 8 October 2010, 08:45 PM

there's a way around that. i took a rolex 16610 for service but i removed band before taking it to rolex service center in NYC and installed a nato strap. at the center they asked me what happen to the band i told them it was purchased that way and they sold me one and i keeped the original one.

Traveler · 8 October 2010, 09:38 PM

Sounds like a fair price and the trade/exchange policy is standard Rolex practice to deter fraud.

dnagwhogas · 8 October 2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ev8296

there's a way around that. i took a rolex 16610 for service but i removed band before taking it to rolex service center in NYC and installed a nato strap. at the center they asked me what happen to the band i told them it was purchased that way and they sold me one and i keeped the original one.

Good idea! But if my memory serves me right, they don't really care if you have an SS band. The swap or the trade applies with SS/GOLD bands only.
By the way, where can I get a good NATO band?

6 October 2010, 03:20 AM	#1
dnagwhogas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: MauiBacerdo Location: Chicago Watch: N :Learn Posts: 902	I called my local RSC here in Chicago and inquired about a TT Oysterband &...WHAT???? I recently got me a TT DJ 16013 jubillee and I wonder if I could get an TT oyster band for "variety" so to speak. I couldn't find any OEM ones on Ebay, none on the classifieds here, googled it but no success, so I called an RSC here in Chicago. So....my jaw dropped when they told me a new one would cost $2200-2400 dollars (more than what I paid for the watch) PLUS I have to trade in my old gold Jubillee band? And I asked him if I could keep my jubillee band etc... they said that I have to trade my old one, plus I have to leave the watch etc.... I'm shocked! He said that the "trade" doesn't apply to the non-gold ones etc.... Could anyone tell me why this is the case?????? Thanks!

7 October 2010, 08:01 AM	#15
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Could be worse. When I asked the Toronto RSC about a new bracelet for my 1630, they said they hadn't sold one in 3 years and would have to contact the Mothership in Switzerland to see whether a replacement was available. They called me later and said: a - a replacement bracelet is available, has to be ordered from Geneva b - the new bracelet is $3,400 *exchange* c - they can't order the new bracelet until they have the watch *with* the old bracelet in their custody. The watch still has the original bracelet on it. I even contacted Michael Young in H.K. and was told that the 1630 bracelet is the only one they don't refurbish. Got a feeling the watch is going to find its way to Bob Ridley soon. Attached Images __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

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8 October 2010, 08:30 PM	#25
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	You guys have nailed it, it isn't an OysterQuartz. Its a pre-OQ 1630 Datejust, very short production run, caliber 1575 non-quickset automatic movement in an essentially prototype OQ case. Also, by the way, the first Rolex to be fitted with a sapphire crystal. http://www.oysterquartz.net/the_1530_&_1630.htm __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

6 October 2010, 03:58 AM	#2
chris russell Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Peterborough, ON Watch: your mouth. Posts: 1,023	Only reason I can think of is they don't want component parts, (including bracelets), floating around that could possibly give a fake more perceived 'authenticity'. But 22-2400 beans for a bracelet is a lotta moola. Ouch.

6 October 2010, 04:09 AM	#3
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	i was quoted $3000 for a TT submariner bracelet, never heard about trading one in, i am assuming Rolex USA takes the bracelet off and keeps it if you you send to them for replacement with the actual watch. ebay has those once in a while.

6 October 2010, 05:14 AM	#4
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	Didn't know that there was an RSC in Chicago. I thought that the only two are in NY and Dallas.

6 October 2010, 10:49 AM	#8
wuzzzer "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 384	Rolex does usually make you send the watch to them so that they can verify the bracelet is being installed on a genuine Rolex. Nothing unusual there. As far as price, not sure what you were expecting a solid 18k/steel bracelet to cost? I know of a gentleman who has an older Day-Date and his bracelet was so worn that he had to replace it. The new bracelet cost nearly as much as he originally paid for the entire watch.

6 October 2010, 11:33 AM	#10
Bon Temps "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: LA Watch: SD43 Posts: 360	Its probably splitting hairs but Sutter's is not a "full RSC" they are a Rolex authorized service center. This is actually very different than a Rolex Service Center.

6 October 2010, 01:33 PM	#13
therolexguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Todd Location: US Posts: 3,528	I would think you could get a bracelet without sending in your old one. Try another AD and see if they can simply order it for you.

7 October 2010, 03:06 PM	#21
Richard. "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 969	At service I was quoted $7000 exchange for a new 18ct Jubilee (which I declined). I recently enquirer about a new 18ct Oyster (not exchange) and was asked a mind-blowing $16000! (Also declined).

8 October 2010, 08:31 PM	#26
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Welcome to the world of Rolex.

8 October 2010, 08:45 PM	#27
ev8296 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: eduardo Location: new jersey Watch: 116610LV 126600 Posts: 254	there's a way around that. i took a rolex 16610 for service but i removed band before taking it to rolex service center in NYC and installed a nato strap. at the center they asked me what happen to the band i told them it was purchased that way and they sold me one and i keeped the original one.

8 October 2010, 09:38 PM	#28
Traveler Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 374	Sounds like a fair price and the trade/exchange policy is standard Rolex practice to deter fraud.

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