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tartampion · 21 November 2010, 11:03 AM

Hello everyone !

My second post here, this forum is really great.... Here are the facts :

I'm thinking about buying a 1967 Datejust, with the 1575 caliber. It has been overhauled by Rolex this year, everything is ok except the watertightness that isn't guaranteed by them. its price: 2300$.

I'm looking for an everyday watch that I can keep for a lifetime.

Do you think that it could do the job regarding the fact it has 45 years and that the caliber is not produced anymore?

Will I be able in 30 or 40 years (if I'm still there!) to make it repair if it has a problem and to make it overhauled by Rolex without havig bad surprises ?

Here's the watch
http://cda.chronomania.net/forum_entry.php?id=39281

Thanks very much from your answears and greetings from France !

Louis

slcbbrown · 21 November 2010, 12:49 PM

I've got a 50's TOG that belonged to my father, and it's still a great watch. I also have a 1966 gold DJ that will last longer than me. I wouldn't be too concerned about the robustness of older Rolex.

I do think $2,300 is not a great price, though. However, with a recent service you could be pretty happy with this watch for lots of years.

pz93c · 21 November 2010, 03:03 PM

It looks different from my '68.

Does the ad say it is a redial?

Kokyuryoku · 21 November 2010, 04:20 PM

I'd keep looking for two reasons: first, the price isn't great and second the fact that it isn't water resistant makes me wonder about the condition of the case. Did the RSC tell you why they wouldn't guarantee the water resistance? When I got my 1966 1601overhauled at the beginning of this year, they warned me about the possibility that the case may be too damaged, in which case they wouldn't guarantee the water resistance unless I recased it. Lucky for me the case was fine. But seriously, if it isn't guaranteed to be water resistant, then sweat, rain, washing your hands etc...become possible sources of moisture. On a positive note, I think you'll love it once you find a nice piece. Vintage DJs have the nicest presence IMHO. Something about the acrylic crystal having a warmer glow to it. Good luck.

tartampion · 23 November 2010, 08:59 AM

No, it's not saying it is a redial ... however I finally found (thanks to your precious advices !) a 1991 DJ, but there is no "T swiss made", just "swiss made". I saw that the T disappeared from 1998, hope it's not a fake ... Can it happen that there is no T in te beginning of the 90ies?

Thank you very much for your answears that have been very helpful .. great to be helped by someone from Texas, from Japan :)

But I'm still anoyed by this T !!

cheers

flathead59 · 23 November 2010, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tartampion

No, it's not saying it is a redial ... however I finally found (thanks to your precious advices !) a 1991 DJ, but there is no "T swiss made", just "swiss made". I saw that the T disappeared from 1998, hope it's not a fake ... Can it happen that there is no T in te beginning of the 90ies?

Thank you very much for your answears that have been very helpful .. great to be helped by someone from Texas, from Japan :)

But I'm still anoyed by this T !!

cheers

If it's a 91 it may very well have had a service dial installed.

Mark

conrail · 23 November 2010, 10:26 AM

They would have dropped the 'T' when they stopped using tritium yea? EDIT: Oh I understand your post. Yea, possibly redial.

tartampion · 23 November 2010, 11:21 PM

I asked the seller it is redial ! however I don't this it is that important since it's not a collectible watch...

HORNBLOWER · 24 November 2010, 02:26 AM

It looks like a piano black (high gloss) dial. I have a tt version of this (1965 year). They look beautiful on the wrist. You can get a nice dj for a lot less than this price, just be careful and do some research. As for the age of the watch, It wouldnt bother me, condition is everything.

Widows Son · 24 November 2010, 05:48 AM

Price doesn't seem great, but if it was overhauled at Rolex it will outlive both of us. I have plenty of vintage Hamiltons, IWC, and Breitlings that I wouldn't dunk in the sink to clean, not a deal breaker for me. There are many fine watches that aren't waterproof.

vukotab · 24 November 2010, 07:12 AM

About watch in first post...
I had Oyster Perpetual Date with 1575, and it was amazing watch. It was unbelievably accurate and reliable. And funny thing was that watch was never serviced, guy who sold it to me bought it in late sixties and never took it to watchmaker, let alone RSC!
Anyway, 2300$ is bit high price, IMHO.
Good luck!

rmfnla · 24 November 2010, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widows Son

Price doesn't seem great, but if it was overhauled at Rolex it will outlive both of us. I have plenty of vintage Hamiltons, IWC, and Breitlings that I wouldn't dunk in the sink to clean, not a deal breaker for me. There are many fine watches that aren't waterproof.

The issue is it is supposed to be waterproof, so if it is not it implies there is a problem with the watch.

21 November 2010, 11:03 AM	#1
tartampion "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 8	longevity 1967 Rolex Datejust caliber 1575 Hello everyone ! My second post here, this forum is really great.... Here are the facts : I'm thinking about buying a 1967 Datejust, with the 1575 caliber. It has been overhauled by Rolex this year, everything is ok except the watertightness that isn't guaranteed by them. its price: 2300$. I'm looking for an everyday watch that I can keep for a lifetime. Do you think that it could do the job regarding the fact it has 45 years and that the caliber is not produced anymore? Will I be able in 30 or 40 years (if I'm still there!) to make it repair if it has a problem and to make it overhauled by Rolex without havig bad surprises ? Here's the watch http://cda.chronomania.net/forum_entry.php?id=39281 Thanks very much from your answears and greetings from France ! Louis

21 November 2010, 04:20 PM	#4
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	I'd keep looking for two reasons: first, the price isn't great and second the fact that it isn't water resistant makes me wonder about the condition of the case. Did the RSC tell you why they wouldn't guarantee the water resistance? When I got my 1966 1601overhauled at the beginning of this year, they warned me about the possibility that the case may be too damaged, in which case they wouldn't guarantee the water resistance unless I recased it. Lucky for me the case was fine. But seriously, if it isn't guaranteed to be water resistant, then sweat, rain, washing your hands etc...become possible sources of moisture. On a positive note, I think you'll love it once you find a nice piece. Vintage DJs have the nicest presence IMHO. Something about the acrylic crystal having a warmer glow to it. Good luck. __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM

23 November 2010, 10:26 AM	#7
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	They would have dropped the 'T' when they stopped using tritium yea? EDIT: Oh I understand your post. Yea, possibly redial. __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

24 November 2010, 07:12 AM	#11
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	About watch in first post... I had Oyster Perpetual Date with 1575, and it was amazing watch. It was unbelievably accurate and reliable. And funny thing was that watch was never serviced, guy who sold it to me bought it in late sixties and never took it to watchmaker, let alone RSC! Anyway, 2300$ is bit high price, IMHO. Good luck! __________________ My fashion blog and Instagram: https://stylebyvukota.com/ https://instagram.com/vukotabrajovic/

21 November 2010, 12:49 PM	#2
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	I've got a 50's TOG that belonged to my father, and it's still a great watch. I also have a 1966 gold DJ that will last longer than me. I wouldn't be too concerned about the robustness of older Rolex. I do think $2,300 is not a great price, though. However, with a recent service you could be pretty happy with this watch for lots of years.

21 November 2010, 03:03 PM	#3
pz93c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 2,776	It looks different from my '68. Does the ad say it is a redial?

23 November 2010, 08:59 AM	#5
tartampion "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 8	No, it's not saying it is a redial ... however I finally found (thanks to your precious advices !) a 1991 DJ, but there is no "T swiss made", just "swiss made". I saw that the T disappeared from 1998, hope it's not a fake ... Can it happen that there is no T in te beginning of the 90ies? Thank you very much for your answears that have been very helpful .. great to be helped by someone from Texas, from Japan :) But I'm still anoyed by this T !! cheers

23 November 2010, 11:21 PM	#8
tartampion "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 8	I asked the seller it is redial ! however I don't this it is that important since it's not a collectible watch...

24 November 2010, 02:26 AM	#9
HORNBLOWER "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Ben Location: Ireland Watch: 1 OR 2 Posts: 2,640	It looks like a piano black (high gloss) dial. I have a tt version of this (1965 year). They look beautiful on the wrist. You can get a nice dj for a lot less than this price, just be careful and do some research. As for the age of the watch, It wouldnt bother me, condition is everything.

24 November 2010, 05:48 AM	#10
Widows Son "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hudson Ohio Posts: 3,564	Price doesn't seem great, but if it was overhauled at Rolex it will outlive both of us. I have plenty of vintage Hamiltons, IWC, and Breitlings that I wouldn't dunk in the sink to clean, not a deal breaker for me. There are many fine watches that aren't waterproof.

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