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clock · 31 December 2010, 04:04 PM

Greetings,

I am interested in a 5512/5513 with box/papers.

Which models are most likely to have increases in value.

Thank You

HL65 · 31 December 2010, 09:20 PM

The ultimate 5512--aside from a 3-6-9 dial--is a Tropical gilt dial with closed chapter ring and 4 lines. Finding one--next to impossible with a 9 plus dial and box and papers. There are so many variances in Subs. The first thing you have to decide is how much you want to spend. Second--I would not worry about increase in value-I would worry about whether or not you love the watch and want to wear it!! Happy hunting!

Clay · 31 December 2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clock

Greetings,

I am interested in a 5512/5513 with box/papers.

Which models are most likely to have increases in value.

Thank You

55121967 · 1 January 2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by clay

+1

MonBK · 1 January 2011, 01:03 AM

The one you pay the least for and is worth the most.

mike · 1 January 2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

The ultimate 5512--aside from a 3-6-9 dial--is a Tropical gilt dial with closed chapter ring and 4 lines. Finding one--next to impossible with a 9 plus dial and box and papers. There are so many variances in Subs. The first thing you have to decide is how much you want to spend. Second--I would not worry about increase in value-I would worry about whether or not you love the watch and want to wear it!! Happy hunting!

Ken,

What are your thought on the early 5512s/gilt/enclosed chapter ring/TWO line?

Is seems to be one that catches the collector's eye and to be honest would be one I would shoot for if condition and originality proved to pan out.

It seems some collectors debate on whether these very early examples were even COSC certified. I'm not sure I've heard the final answer.

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 02:42 AM

Mike-
I love 2 line gilt-closed chapter ring as well. I have one as well. As for COSC certified--both of my 61 and 62 came with full papers including the COSC Cert. I can take picture and post if anyone wants--later though! I would highly recommend if you can find a perfect example to go for it. On these early gilt dials--the dial is everything--so have to find a great dial. Here is a shot of mine below which is with Bob Ridley right now getting overhauled - not polished though--notice the thick lugs and perfect bevels/chamfered edges!!! Best and Happy New Year!!!
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kyle L · 1 January 2011, 02:44 AM

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Mike-
I love 2 line gilt-closed chapter ring as well. I have one as well. As for COSC certified--both of my 61 and 62 came with full papers including the COSC Cert. I can take picture and post if anyone wants--later though! I would highly recommend if you can find a perfect example to go for it. On these early gilt dials--the dial is everything--so have to find a great dial. Here is a shot of mine below which is with Bob Ridley right now getting overhauled - not polished though--notice the thick lugs and perfect bevels/chamfered edges!!! Best and Happy New Year!!!
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Great watch Ken! Which model do you not have?

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

Great watch Ken! Which model do you not have?

LOL!!! I am an ever growing collector in search of the holy grail!!! I have yet to find my grail!! The 6240 PN Screw down and the 4 line 6538 with perfect gilt dial. Also--a 5517 Military Sub would be nice--not the 5513-British Naval Sub but the SAS Army Sub! If anyone wants to help--look no further!! PS--Kyle--I am quite sure by the time you are my age-your collection will surpass mine and everyone else on TRF!!!!

mike · 1 January 2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Mike-
I love 2 line gilt-closed chapter ring as well. I have one as well. As for COSC certified--both of my 61 and 62 came with full papers including the COSC Cert. I can take picture and post if anyone wants--later though! I would highly recommend if you can find a perfect example to go for it. On these early gilt dials--the dial is everything--so have to find a great dial. Here is a shot of mine below which is with Bob Ridley right now getting overhauled - not polished though--notice the thick lugs and perfect bevels/chamfered edges!!! Best and Happy New Year!!!
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That is indeed a beauty! My hats off.

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 03:14 AM

Thanks Mike!! Happy New Year!! I love these darn watches--what an awful habit and addiction!! I need to go to VRA--Vintage Rolex Annonymous for Tool watch addicts!!!

FremStar · 1 January 2011, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Thanks Mike!! Happy New Year!! I love these darn watches--what an awful habit and addiction!! I need to go to VRA--Vintage Rolex Annonymous for Tool watch addicts!!!

And this is why I am afraid to aggressively persue a complete 1655. Tony G has one but I cannot bring myself to bite!

Happy New Year all!!!

Racer X · 1 January 2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

Great watch Ken! Which model do you not have?

My thoughts exactly.

Amazing collection Ken!

Yazo · 1 January 2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

Mike-
I love 2 line gilt-closed chapter ring as well. I have one as well. As for COSC certified--both of my 61 and 62 came with full papers including the COSC Cert. I can take picture and post if anyone wants--later though! I would highly recommend if you can find a perfect example to go for it. On these early gilt dials--the dial is everything--so have to find a great dial. Here is a shot of mine below which is with Bob Ridley right now getting overhauled - not polished though--notice the thick lugs and perfect bevels/chamfered edges!!! Best and Happy New Year!!!
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Absolutely stunning Ken!!

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 05:58 AM

Thanks Sunny!!! Happy New Years all!!!!

kyle L · 1 January 2011, 06:10 AM

Not my watch but...

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 06:12 AM

Kyle-
I saw that watch for sale today--just looked it! All you my friend!!!

kyle L · 1 January 2011, 06:18 AM

I would not mind this one:

or this one:

or this one...

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 06:23 AM

Very nice Kyle!! Let me know if I can help you when you are ready!!

dddrees · 1 January 2011, 11:44 PM

Great looking watch Ken. You sure do have some very nice watches, my hats off to you Sir.

HL65 · 1 January 2011, 11:55 PM

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Great looking watch Ken. You sure do have some very nice watches, my hats off to you Sir.

Thanks Dan!!!

HL65 · 2 January 2011, 04:40 AM

Speaking of vintage Subs--make sure you head over to either VRF or TZ and check out Mike Wood's collection. It is unreal!! I have never seen so many amazing subs at one time!! Definitely worth checking out!!!

T5AUS · 2 January 2011, 06:01 AM

The early gilt dials take some beating. My 5512 62 PCG

HL65 · 2 January 2011, 06:29 AM

Very nice Phil!!!

I want a rolex · 2 January 2011, 09:48 AM

hello all
this my first post on this fourm I am looking to buy
a 1958 oyster date rolex my birth year this is my
first rolex purchase any ideas on what to look for
thanks
gary

T5AUS · 2 January 2011, 10:11 AM

Thanks Ken, yours is pretty hot too

From what I have read, my understanding is that all the early 5512's were COSC rated, it was only after the none COSC 5513 came along that they decided to mark the 5512 dials as COSC to distinguish them from the 5513's, which were not COSC rated. I am relatively new with these so welcome correcting if this is wrong

How about some photo's of your complete packaged 5512's Ken, I would love to see them thanks

HL65 · 2 January 2011, 10:30 AM

61' 4 line and 62' 2 line for your viewing pleasure.

I have also take off all of my original bracelets and store them and wear mine on 93150 bracelets! Preserves them and far more comfortable!!

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HL65 · 2 January 2011, 10:31 AM

Ps--The 2 line is with Mr. Bob Ridley now soon to be complete. Getting it overhauled and cleaned not polished!

HL65 · 2 January 2011, 10:42 AM

In fact--here it is now--at least some of it that is--getting bathed!

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T5AUS · 2 January 2011, 10:59 AM

Very nice Ken, thanks for that. I wish I could find the papers for mine, the original owner from new lost them years ago but I live in hope that I might get a call out of the blue from him saying he's just found them in his sock drawer

31 December 2010, 04:04 PM	#1
clock Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in a house Posts: 13,510	Sought after vintage Greetings, I am interested in a 5512/5513 with box/papers. Which models are most likely to have increases in value. Thank You

31 December 2010, 09:20 PM	#2
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	The ultimate 5512--aside from a 3-6-9 dial--is a Tropical gilt dial with closed chapter ring and 4 lines. Finding one--next to impossible with a 9 plus dial and box and papers. There are so many variances in Subs. The first thing you have to decide is how much you want to spend. Second--I would not worry about increase in value-I would worry about whether or not you love the watch and want to wear it!! Happy hunting! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 02:42 AM	#7
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Mike- I love 2 line gilt-closed chapter ring as well. I have one as well. As for COSC certified--both of my 61 and 62 came with full papers including the COSC Cert. I can take picture and post if anyone wants--later though! I would highly recommend if you can find a perfect example to go for it. On these early gilt dials--the dial is everything--so have to find a great dial. Here is a shot of mine below which is with Bob Ridley right now getting overhauled - not polished though--notice the thick lugs and perfect bevels/chamfered edges!!! Best and Happy New Year!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 03:14 AM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Thanks Mike!! Happy New Year!! I love these darn watches--what an awful habit and addiction!! I need to go to VRA--Vintage Rolex Annonymous for Tool watch addicts!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 05:58 AM	#15
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Thanks Sunny!!! Happy New Years all!!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 01:03 AM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	The one you pay the least for and is worth the most.

1 January 2011, 06:10 AM	#16
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	Not my watch but...

1 January 2011, 06:12 AM	#17
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Kyle- I saw that watch for sale today--just looked it! All you my friend!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 06:18 AM	#18
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	I would not mind this one: or this one: or this one...

1 January 2011, 06:23 AM	#19
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Very nice Kyle!! Let me know if I can help you when you are ready!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 January 2011, 11:44 PM	#20
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Great looking watch Ken. You sure do have some very nice watches, my hats off to you Sir.

2 January 2011, 04:40 AM	#22
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Speaking of vintage Subs--make sure you head over to either VRF or TZ and check out Mike Wood's collection. It is unreal!! I have never seen so many amazing subs at one time!! Definitely worth checking out!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 06:01 AM	#23
T5AUS Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Watch: ing the time go by Posts: 1,444	The early gilt dials take some beating. My 5512 62 PCG Attached Images

2 January 2011, 06:29 AM	#24
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Very nice Phil!!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 09:48 AM	#25
I want a rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: gary Location: iowa Posts: 2	wanted 1958 oyster date watch hello all this my first post on this fourm I am looking to buy a 1958 oyster date rolex my birth year this is my first rolex purchase any ideas on what to look for thanks gary

2 January 2011, 10:11 AM	#26
T5AUS Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Watch: ing the time go by Posts: 1,444	Thanks Ken, yours is pretty hot too From what I have read, my understanding is that all the early 5512's were COSC rated, it was only after the none COSC 5513 came along that they decided to mark the 5512 dials as COSC to distinguish them from the 5513's, which were not COSC rated. I am relatively new with these so welcome correcting if this is wrong How about some photo's of your complete packaged 5512's Ken, I would love to see them thanks

2 January 2011, 10:30 AM	#27
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	61' 4 line and 62' 2 line for your viewing pleasure. I have also take off all of my original bracelets and store them and wear mine on 93150 bracelets! Preserves them and far more comfortable!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 10:31 AM	#28
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Ps--The 2 line is with Mr. Bob Ridley now soon to be complete. Getting it overhauled and cleaned not polished! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 10:42 AM	#29
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	In fact--here it is now--at least some of it that is--getting bathed! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 January 2011, 10:59 AM	#30
T5AUS Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Watch: ing the time go by Posts: 1,444	Very nice Ken, thanks for that. I wish I could find the papers for mine, the original owner from new lost them years ago but I live in hope that I might get a call out of the blue from him saying he's just found them in his sock drawer

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