14060 -91 vs. 14060 -01

[poffe]

First post on these forums, if this has been discussed in another thread, please give me a link!

Planning to buy my first Rolex and im leaning towards a 14060. But what is the differences between lets say a -91 and a -01 in terms of value both now and in the future? Lets say both of them an non COSC.

Or does it depend entirely on condition? Is it correct to make the assumption that a -01 (or maybe a newer one) in general are more exensive that one from -91 (because a 10 year old watch is more likely to be in better condition than a 20 year old)? Should i ignore the year it was produced and go for condition only?

Lets say i find a NOS 14060 from 91 at the same price as a -04 NOS, wich is the better choice and why?

Now realized there was quite a lot of different questions , but any answers are appreciated, thanks!

[Tools]

The 14060 replaced the 5513 in ~1989 and brought a 904 Stainless case, sapphire crystal, and newer fast-beat 3000 movement to the table..

In ~1999 the exact same watch had the movement modified with a full balance bridge and larger balance wheel (3130), and was re-designated 14060M (M for Modified movement). Except for that, and the move in ~1998 to Luminova for the entire Rolex line, they are the exact same watch, and have been until last year when the 14060M got Superlative Chronometer paint put on the dial and the engraved rehaut..

So, you need to decide what features you want in your Sub... Condition will always be the prime driver in value on this watch....

[ally]

Originally Posted by Tools

until last year when the 14060M got Superlative Chronometer paint put on the dial and the engraved rehaut..

If this gets discontinued as rumored the 14060M would have had a very short production run would that make it more collectable please?

[Tools]

Originally Posted by ally

If this gets discontinued as rumored the 14060M would have had a very short production run would that make it more collectable please?

Possibly, hard to say.

The 168000 Sub Date had a very short production run (less than a year), as well as the 16800, and neither of these have taken off in value.. The GMT 16760 also had a short run and prices are pretty stable there..

[ally]

Originally Posted by Tools

Possibly, hard to say.

The 168000 Sub Date had a very short production run (less than a year), as well as the 16800, and neither of these have taken off in value.. The GMT 16760 also had a short run and prices are pretty stable there..

Thanks Larry......I see a patern forming there

I didnt relise some watches had short production runs as well

[Gundam]

Originally Posted by ally

If this gets discontinued as rumored the 14060M would have had a very short production run would that make it more collectable please?

The COSC'ed version first appeared late 2007, I think, towards the end of the Z serial. Mine is an M serial from 2008. Its discontinuation has been speculated for the last couple of years... But I imagine the answer would be yes, scarcity generally correlates with collectibility... If it is discontinued this year it will have been in production for barely 3 years.

[Deliverator]

I just want to add that I have had my '01 14060M (P series) for 10 years now, and it's still running at about +1 second a day. I can't comment on the earlier model, but Rolex did one heck of a job on the movement inside of my '01.

[Andad]

IMO all the 14060 models up to the present time are a good buy and the price will reflect the condition and any service requirements that might be needed. I prefer the later models with the full balance bridge as I think they are more stable under rough use.
The latest COSCdial models (with the engraved rehaute) might have a relatively short run so why not go for a brand new one.

I wear my 14060M "K" every day. It keeps time to -2 second/day. When I set the time I set it 30 seconds fast and it is 30 seconds slow at the end of the month. Works for me.

[LeOnfromtheblock]

Are there any 14060M's that have the non COSC dial?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by LeOnfromtheblock

Are there any 14060M's that have the non COSC dial?

Short answer yes.

[Aspirin]

Short run, very short run, my name had been registered in my AD's waiting list for 14060M COSC last week, just wait... & wait!