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CashGap · 1 March 2011, 11:09 PM

Folks,

Found a BNIB "Z" serial TT GMT from a great seller at the right price.

This watch was produced, if I can trust the guides, nearly five years ago.

Should I consider it as needing a service day one? Any concerns?

I'm specifically looking for concerns about buying a new five year old GMT.

THANKS

East Bay Rider · 1 March 2011, 11:20 PM

I wouldn't be too concerned. I would give it a 'swirl' to get it started, wind it fully and monitor the timekeeping for the next few days. My Z GMT need to wear in for about a month then settled down to about 11 seconds/month.

Singslinger · 1 March 2011, 11:54 PM

I agree with Bill (East Bay Rider). Yes the watch will require a service one day, but I think that day is still a few years away. You'll probably be able to enjoy at least 4-5 years' use before servicing becomes a consideration.

mike · 1 March 2011, 11:57 PM

Yeah, with the oils used today I think you have a few years yet.

The GMT Master · 2 March 2011, 12:07 AM

Just as a point, you really can't trust the guides when it comes to the TT and 18ct models. Series overlap, cases can sit in Rolex inventories for extended periods of time before being assembled, there really is no way of knowing when the watch was completed or shipped to the AD. There were still plenty of Z-serials coming through for several months after I first started at the shop, and I started in September 2007. I believe that the guides have gone from being seen as rough estimates to being canonical, which is very worrying due to their inherent weaknesses.

padi56 · 2 March 2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Just as a point, you really can't trust the guides when it comes to the TT and 18ct models. Series overlap, cases can sit in Rolex inventories for extended periods of time before being assembled, there really is no way of knowing when the watch was completed or shipped to the AD. There were still plenty of Z-serials coming through for several months after I first started at the shop, and I started in September 2007. I believe that the guides have gone from being seen as rough estimates to being canonical, which is very worrying due to their inherent weaknesses.

Have to agree far to much enthuses is put on these Internet codes. All you could tell from say the Z case stamp,was that the case was stamped sometime between May 2006 and approx Aug 2007.Now when the movement was made in the case well only Rolex knows that one.And movements are not made to the day, week, month, or year with movements like the cal 3135.And with modern oils not a problem if watch is stored for 3-5 years or more.

Tools · 2 March 2011, 03:06 AM

Charts are for researching a watch when you have no other information..

You cannot actually "date" a watch using a chart, but only get an approximation within a few years...

So, no... you don't trust a guide when you are at a shop with a BNIB watch in your hand..

Your BNIB watch becomes a data point on the larger charts that show the actual spread of a serial prefix... i.e., over several years...

CashGap · 2 March 2011, 04:46 AM

Well... I have an Express Mail tracking number, so I'll post tomorrow with the results! THANKS

wantonebad · 2 March 2011, 04:54 AM

Congrats on the purchase, you'll have a few years to enjoy it before service is needed!

drtooth73 · 2 March 2011, 05:33 AM

Z could also be the second half of 2007, making it 3.5 years old. GMTIIC TT is one fine watch!

mtrunner · 2 March 2011, 05:42 AM

Congrats. I am sure it will work just fine for many years to come.

Chris B · 2 March 2011, 05:47 AM

Many congratulations, hope you can sleep tonight

Looking forward to seeing the pics

1 March 2011, 11:09 PM	#1
CashGap "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Blank Location: Romo Posts: 1,465	BNIB "Z" Serial concerns? Folks, Found a BNIB "Z" serial TT GMT from a great seller at the right price. This watch was produced, if I can trust the guides, nearly five years ago. Should I consider it as needing a service day one? Any concerns? I'm specifically looking for concerns about buying a new five year old GMT. THANKS

1 March 2011, 11:20 PM	#2
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	I wouldn't be too concerned. I would give it a 'swirl' to get it started, wind it fully and monitor the timekeeping for the next few days. My Z GMT need to wear in for about a month then settled down to about 11 seconds/month. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

2 March 2011, 03:06 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Charts are for researching a watch when you have no other information.. You cannot actually "date" a watch using a chart, but only get an approximation within a few years... So, no... you don't trust a guide when you are at a shop with a BNIB watch in your hand.. Your BNIB watch becomes a data point on the larger charts that show the actual spread of a serial prefix... i.e., over several years... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

2 March 2011, 04:54 AM	#9
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	Congrats on the purchase, you'll have a few years to enjoy it before service is needed! __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

1 March 2011, 11:54 PM	#3
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I agree with Bill (East Bay Rider). Yes the watch will require a service one day, but I think that day is still a few years away. You'll probably be able to enjoy at least 4-5 years' use before servicing becomes a consideration.

1 March 2011, 11:57 PM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Yeah, with the oils used today I think you have a few years yet.

2 March 2011, 12:07 AM	#5
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	Just as a point, you really can't trust the guides when it comes to the TT and 18ct models. Series overlap, cases can sit in Rolex inventories for extended periods of time before being assembled, there really is no way of knowing when the watch was completed or shipped to the AD. There were still plenty of Z-serials coming through for several months after I first started at the shop, and I started in September 2007. I believe that the guides have gone from being seen as rough estimates to being canonical, which is very worrying due to their inherent weaknesses.

2 March 2011, 04:46 AM	#8
CashGap "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Blank Location: Romo Posts: 1,465	Well... I have an Express Mail tracking number, so I'll post tomorrow with the results! THANKS

2 March 2011, 05:33 AM	#10
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	Z could also be the second half of 2007, making it 3.5 years old. GMTIIC TT is one fine watch!

2 March 2011, 05:42 AM	#11
mtrunner 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,835	Congrats. I am sure it will work just fine for many years to come.

2 March 2011, 05:47 AM	#12
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Many congratulations, hope you can sleep tonight Looking forward to seeing the pics

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