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sepcreek · 16 April 2011, 10:00 AM

Hi All,

Just wondering which Pepsi GMT to get as a first?

A 1675, 16750 or 16710?

Obviously condition is everything but assuming all things being equal and he watch being in excellent condition which model is preferred?

Thanks in anticipation.

Tony

TimeToGo · 16 April 2011, 10:15 AM

WELCOME TO THE FORUM!

For vintage go for 1675 or 16750...

Dan Pierce · 16 April 2011, 10:17 AM

A 16710 from the early 2000's w/ SEL's and lug holes. Best of both worlds and most versatile GMT.
dP

Tools · 16 April 2011, 10:23 AM

Since you're on the "Vintage" Boards, I suppose that you would need to go with the 16750 to get a little more stable movement with the great looks of a plastic GMT..

I don't think that the 16710 is into the vintage arena yet since it's only been around a bit over 20 years.... But, it does give you some things the early models don't, like a sapphire crystal and that cool jump hour hand

kyle L · 16 April 2011, 10:24 AM

I would go with a nice 60s gilt PCG 1675.

sfglenrock · 16 April 2011, 10:26 AM

Well we're on the vintage forum, so you've got to go with a nice matte dialed 1675.

Frogman4me · 16 April 2011, 10:45 AM

4 digits baby

HL65 · 16 April 2011, 10:51 AM

1675 for me as well - 4 digits-pointed crown guards and a gilt dial!!

mike · 16 April 2011, 11:29 AM

Hey Tony,

As Larry said the 16710 isn't vintage so that leaves either the 1675 or 16750. With the slow beat 15xx movement some will lean to the 1675 and, of course, there's a bit more to decide--matt white, gilt, heck even radial dial.

Your pocketbook will help make that decision.

The 16750 (matt dial) is a worthy consideration given it has the look of the earlier 1675, but with a 3xxx fast beat movement and true quick-set.

Just something to add if I may---since you mention the 16710 perhaps some consideration to the 16760 (aka the "Fat-lady). The first of the MASTER II series. It had a short run and is prized by some in the community.

Jason71 · 16 April 2011, 11:38 AM

Don't forget about the 16700. Quickset date, Sapphire glass, mine has a nicely starting to fade bezel insert, and they can be sometimes picked-up at a GREAT price. I bought mine for an absolute STEAL

Paul · 16 April 2011, 04:08 PM

ACTIVE DAILY USE ... Go for the 16750. Simply cos. it's easy to live with.

INVESTMENT ... Go for the best 1675 gilt PCG you can find.

BANG FOR YOUR BUCKS ... The 16710 is a cool watch at a great price.

Here's my 1675 gilt. A cool watch but no quickset is irksome

bluemartinifan · 16 April 2011, 09:07 PM

As previously stated - for every day wear - the 16750 was a safe choice as my 1st vintage Rolex. My 16750 is a full set - making it easier to sell if/when I decide to venture further into vintage. Collectors here prefer a matte dial over gloss - but I love the look of plastic and gloss - as I wear it to the office every day and it gives my 25 year old watch a vintage and modern look and feel.

bluemartinifan · 16 April 2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Needham

ACTIVE DAILY USE ... Go for the 16750. Simply cos. it's easy to live with.

INVESTMENT ... Go for the best 1675 gilt PCG you can find.

BANG FOR YOUR BUCKS ... The 16710 is a cool watch at a great price.

Here's my 1675 gilt. A cool watch but no quickset is irksome

Paul - that is a beautiful 1675 - love the black insert

HL65 · 16 April 2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Needham

ACTIVE DAILY USE ... Go for the 16750. Simply cos. it's easy to live with.

INVESTMENT ... Go for the best 1675 gilt PCG you can find.

BANG FOR YOUR BUCKS ... The 16710 is a cool watch at a great price.

Here's my 1675 gilt. A cool watch but no quickset is irksome

Paul--Very nice 1675!! That wraps it up for me!!

sepcreek · 16 April 2011, 11:17 PM

Many thanks Gents for your responses.

I like the sound of the 16750.

Seems like a great watch overall and probably easier to find in good shape.

Best to find one on this forum ?

Regards,

Tony

aleiberman · 17 April 2011, 02:41 AM

I had to settle for a 16750 with gloss dial. You can get a better deal on those. You'll have to pay more for a 16750 with matte dial. In the end i'm very happy with mine, looks great, easy to set the date; but I am always searching to trade up for a 16750 with matte dial. Now that i own the 16750, i don't feel i settled for anything. It is a wonderful watch.

Good Luck!

model7el · 17 April 2011, 05:18 AM

16700

tsuie · 17 April 2011, 03:42 PM

I went from a 16710 to a matte regular 1675 to now my Grail in gmt 1675 pcg gilt. I do strongly suggest to start from the more easier accessible 16710 or 16750 to get feel for this series, then move to vintage. The journey reversing from early modern back to vintage gave me a great learning and one can truly appreciate the older models. Once you got the pcg gilt, don't think you will be interested to go back to modern or later models.

conrail · 20 April 2011, 03:57 AM

Not gilt, not modern, but not quite a normal matte dial? Go for the matte RADIAL dial 1675! :)

Much harder to find than a normal matte dial but without a sky-high price tag (for the time being...)

Newportkrieger · 20 April 2011, 05:02 AM

+1 for the 16750 with a matte dial. The best of both worlds... vintage matte dial, faster beat movement and quickset date.

Daily wear matte dial 16750's can be had in the mid $4k and nice ones with B&P in the low to mid $5k.

dricig · 20 April 2011, 07:18 AM

16750 with gloss dial for me,
Vintage with a modern looking dial.
Honestly, any acrylic top GMT model will be the
ones to have.

dave

AJMarcus · 20 April 2011, 10:17 AM

Let me suggest getting one with the classic jubilee bracelet or adding it as a second bracelet. The Pepsi on a jubilee is stunning

Al1988 · 20 April 2011, 10:59 AM

I'm so glad this thread was posted today! I saw my first ever vintage model in person today, it was a GMT 16750 with matte dial and I'm in love! I'm very tempted to take the plunge into vintage starting with a 16750 matte dial

conrail · 20 April 2011, 11:21 AM

Isn't that the truth! No matter how amazing the pics - nothing compares to seeing and wearing one's first vintage piece! Happened with me.

dricig · 20 April 2011, 12:02 PM

1988 "R" 16750 on jubilee.
Everyday (almost) but it is my favorite!
dave

nauticajoe · 20 April 2011, 12:35 PM

16710's got my vote!

horseco · 20 April 2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

A 16710 from the early 2000's w/ SEL's and lug holes. Best of both worlds and most versatile GMT.
dP

I agree on the 16710, unless the vintage GMT Pepsi, brings you back to a special place in your life for nostalgic reasons...

springer · 20 April 2011, 11:04 PM

My Rolex of choice is the GMT and I love all the varieties that it offers. The GMT I wear most often is the 16750 with a matte dial. In appearance, it looks like the model it replaced, the 1675, but has the quick-set feature. I also like the 16700 GMT, which replaced the 16750. The 16700 has the sapphire crystal and the metal enclosures around the number markers on the dial. Both of these watches, and the 1675, are capable of keeping time in two time zones. The GMT II's, the 16760 and 16710 are fitted with sapphire crystals and are capable of keeping you on time in three different time zones. Here is a pic of my 1981 GMT 16750. Good luck in your decision, as they are all great watches.

16 April 2011, 10:00 AM	#1
sepcreek Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Melbourne Watch: Rolex 114270 Posts: 36	Which Pepsi GMT? Hi All, Just wondering which Pepsi GMT to get as a first? A 1675, 16750 or 16710? Obviously condition is everything but assuming all things being equal and he watch being in excellent condition which model is preferred? Thanks in anticipation. Tony

16 April 2011, 10:17 AM	#3
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,215	A 16710 from the early 2000's w/ SEL's and lug holes. Best of both worlds and most versatile GMT. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

16 April 2011, 10:23 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Since you're on the "Vintage" Boards, I suppose that you would need to go with the 16750 to get a little more stable movement with the great looks of a plastic GMT.. I don't think that the 16710 is into the vintage arena yet since it's only been around a bit over 20 years.... But, it does give you some things the early models don't, like a sapphire crystal and that cool jump hour hand __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

16 April 2011, 10:51 AM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	1675 for me as well - 4 digits-pointed crown guards and a gilt dial!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

16 April 2011, 11:38 AM	#10
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Don't forget about the 16700. Quickset date, Sapphire glass, mine has a nicely starting to fade bezel insert, and they can be sometimes picked-up at a GREAT price. I bought mine for an absolute STEAL __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

16 April 2011, 10:15 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	WELCOME TO THE FORUM! For vintage go for 1675 or 16750...

16 April 2011, 10:24 AM	#5
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	I would go with a nice 60s gilt PCG 1675.

16 April 2011, 10:26 AM	#6
sfglenrock "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: NJ & Cape Cod Watch: Smallcrown Posts: 287	Well we're on the vintage forum, so you've got to go with a nice matte dialed 1675.

16 April 2011, 10:45 AM	#7
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	4 digits baby

16 April 2011, 11:29 AM	#9
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Hey Tony, As Larry said the 16710 isn't vintage so that leaves either the 1675 or 16750. With the slow beat 15xx movement some will lean to the 1675 and, of course, there's a bit more to decide--matt white, gilt, heck even radial dial. Your pocketbook will help make that decision. The 16750 (matt dial) is a worthy consideration given it has the look of the earlier 1675, but with a 3xxx fast beat movement and true quick-set. Just something to add if I may---since you mention the 16710 perhaps some consideration to the 16760 (aka the "Fat-lady). The first of the MASTER II series. It had a short run and is prized by some in the community.

16 April 2011, 04:08 PM	#11
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	Depends on your needs .... ACTIVE DAILY USE ... Go for the 16750. Simply cos. it's easy to live with. INVESTMENT ... Go for the best 1675 gilt PCG you can find. BANG FOR YOUR BUCKS ... The 16710 is a cool watch at a great price. Here's my 1675 gilt. A cool watch but no quickset is irksome Attached Images

16 April 2011, 09:07 PM	#12
bluemartinifan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Russ Location: Dallas Texas Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,124	As previously stated - for every day wear - the 16750 was a safe choice as my 1st vintage Rolex. My 16750 is a full set - making it easier to sell if/when I decide to venture further into vintage. Collectors here prefer a matte dial over gloss - but I love the look of plastic and gloss - as I wear it to the office every day and it gives my 25 year old watch a vintage and modern look and feel. Attached Images

16 April 2011, 11:17 PM	#15
sepcreek Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Melbourne Watch: Rolex 114270 Posts: 36	Many thanks Gents for your responses. I like the sound of the 16750. Seems like a great watch overall and probably easier to find in good shape. Best to find one on this forum ? Regards, Tony

17 April 2011, 02:41 AM	#16
aleiberman "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: MA Watch: Rolex Posts: 501	I had to settle for a 16750 with gloss dial. You can get a better deal on those. You'll have to pay more for a 16750 with matte dial. In the end i'm very happy with mine, looks great, easy to set the date; but I am always searching to trade up for a 16750 with matte dial. Now that i own the 16750, i don't feel i settled for anything. It is a wonderful watch. Good Luck!

17 April 2011, 05:18 AM	#17
model7el Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jose Antonio Location: mexico Watch: GMT Posts: 49	16700

17 April 2011, 03:42 PM	#18
tsuie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Hong Kong Watch: all of them! Posts: 81	I went from a 16710 to a matte regular 1675 to now my Grail in gmt 1675 pcg gilt. I do strongly suggest to start from the more easier accessible 16710 or 16750 to get feel for this series, then move to vintage. The journey reversing from early modern back to vintage gave me a great learning and one can truly appreciate the older models. Once you got the pcg gilt, don't think you will be interested to go back to modern or later models. __________________ SS Subdate 16610 D series Sea Dweller 4000 116600

20 April 2011, 03:57 AM	#19
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	Not gilt, not modern, but not quite a normal matte dial? Go for the matte RADIAL dial 1675! :) Much harder to find than a normal matte dial but without a sky-high price tag (for the time being...) __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

20 April 2011, 05:02 AM	#20
Newportkrieger Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Newport Beach, CA Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 1,243	+1 for the 16750 with a matte dial. The best of both worlds... vintage matte dial, faster beat movement and quickset date. Daily wear matte dial 16750's can be had in the mid $4k and nice ones with B&P in the low to mid $5k.

20 April 2011, 07:18 AM	#21
dricig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: NY Metro Posts: 680	16750 with gloss dial for me, Vintage with a modern looking dial. Honestly, any acrylic top GMT model will be the ones to have. dave

20 April 2011, 10:17 AM	#22
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	Let me suggest getting one with the classic jubilee bracelet or adding it as a second bracelet. The Pepsi on a jubilee is stunning

20 April 2011, 10:59 AM	#23
Al1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New York City Watch: Watch Posts: 1,000	I'm so glad this thread was posted today! I saw my first ever vintage model in person today, it was a GMT 16750 with matte dial and I'm in love! I'm very tempted to take the plunge into vintage starting with a 16750 matte dial

20 April 2011, 11:21 AM	#24
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	Isn't that the truth! No matter how amazing the pics - nothing compares to seeing and wearing one's first vintage piece! Happened with me. __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

20 April 2011, 12:02 PM	#25
dricig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: NY Metro Posts: 680	1988 "R" 16750 on jubilee. Everyday (almost) but it is my favorite! dave Attached Images

20 April 2011, 12:35 PM	#26
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	16710's got my vote!

20 April 2011, 11:04 PM	#28
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	My Rolex of choice is the GMT and I love all the varieties that it offers. The GMT I wear most often is the 16750 with a matte dial. In appearance, it looks like the model it replaced, the 1675, but has the quick-set feature. I also like the 16700 GMT, which replaced the 16750. The 16700 has the sapphire crystal and the metal enclosures around the number markers on the dial. Both of these watches, and the 1675, are capable of keeping time in two time zones. The GMT II's, the 16760 and 16710 are fitted with sapphire crystals and are capable of keeping you on time in three different time zones. Here is a pic of my 1981 GMT 16750. Good luck in your decision, as they are all great watches. Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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