Everose gold fading?

[RollieKid]

For those of you who own an everrose gold model...have you experienced fading of the gold on the watch?

[Roja]

I've heard that the new concoction, the one called EVEROSE instead of Rose Gold, doesn't fade, hence EVERose.

But I wear EVERsteel, so I wouldn't know from experience.

[rms]

I'm certainly not a metallurgist and perhaps there is something unique about rose gold (maybe copper content?), but as far as I know, gold does not fade or tarnish.

[HL65]

The better question is have you? I would highly doubt it though.......

[GolfPunk]

You would only find fading on a gold elecroplated watch (which rolex dont do fortunately) - also, some white gold could get yellow gold bleeding through, but i believe rolex's white gold doesnt.

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by Roja

I've heard that the new concoction, the one called EVEROSE instead of Rose Gold, doesn't fade, hence EVERose.

But I wear EVERsteel, so I wouldn't know from experience.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by RollieKid

For those of you who own an everrose gold model...have you experienced fading of the gold on the watch?

Don't no about Rolex so called Everose but I have my Grandfather's rose gold watch chain from 1889 thats still got its rose gold colour.

[arabesque]

The yellow gold DD sometimes take the look of orange gold aside being yellow gold, depends on lighting.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

You would only find fading on a gold elecroplated watch (which rolex dont do fortunately) - also, some white gold could get yellow gold bleeding through, but i believe rolex's white gold doesnt.

Some white gold is yellow(ish) and is plated with Rhodium. The plating wear off and the 'white' gold shows though. As you say Rolex's latest white gold amalgams are white and don't need the 'R' plating.

[rolexertion]

Originally Posted by directioneng

As you say Rolex's latest white gold amalgams are white and don't need the 'R' plating.

Rolex uses mercury in their white gold?? Yikes!!

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by RollieKid

For those of you who own an everrose gold model...have you experienced fading of the gold on the watch?

Of course not.

[slcbbrown]

Gold fading? I doubt it.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by rolexertion

Rolex uses mercury in their white gold?? Yikes!!

Would doubt that for white gold the gold alloy is mixed with Platinum or Palladium to turn yellow gold into white.

[rolexertion]

Originally Posted by RollieKid

For those of you who own an everrose gold model...have you experienced fading of the gold on the watch?

No, and it doesn't happen. Rose gold can show tarnish after a few years without handling or polishing, but that is actually a dark deposit. What's more likely to 'fade' is the owner's memory of what it looked like years ago. Brain cells have a tendency to dwindle.

[hsfrank]

Originally Posted by rolexertion

No, and it doesn't happen. Rose gold can show tarnish after a few years without handling or polishing, but that is actually a dark deposit. What's more likely to 'fade' is the owner's memory of what it looked like years ago. Brain cells have a tendency to dwindle.

I thought mine had faded and sent it into RSC New York. They are giving it a case refinishing.

[Tw2ntyTwo]

Answer to the Everose gold question:

The Rolex 18K Everrose gold is alloyed by Rolex, and actually (and still confusing me to this day) blended with Platinum to ensure the rose color never changes or fades. What this does, i have no idea but that was the word I got from Allen Brill... when he was alive...

The rest of the metals used remain a mystery. I can only assume they blend in copper to make it that red color, but if not, maybe they have some patented method of heating the gold to make it red like they do when they make red glass in Murano.

[Perdu]

The rose colour of rose gold is achieved by adding copper as the alloy. It doesn't fade with time, you just get used to the colour.

[Justjosh]

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

You would only find fading on a gold elecroplated watch (which rolex dont do fortunately) - also, some white gold could get yellow gold bleeding through, but i believe rolex's white gold doesnt.

I believe Jocke has a datejust with a white gold bezel that shows a pretty significant amount of yellow through.

That being said, my white gold bezel is 32 yrs old and is still "white"

[Yoda]

I purchased a day date in everose last week and raised a thread about the last letter on the model number 118235F. Spoke to Rolex in St James Square in UK and was told the F is the latest addition and spec change in Everose gold as the old one had fade issues! Interesting.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by rolexertion

Rolex uses mercury in their white gold?? Yikes!!

No, you know they don't.

I was using amalagam is as a gereralisation for an 'unknown mix'.

from 'yourdictionary'.

amalgam sentence examples•amalgam of styles.
•the analysis of data herein represents an amalgam of data sources.
•a current cause for concern is the emission of mercury from dental amalgams.
•amalgam fillings.
•here's health magazine carried out a campaign on the adverse effects of mercury amalgam some years ago.
•amalgam of the various ethnic groups who settled here.
•some us choose our regional roots, others our religious roots, others create an amalgam by merging cultures.
•the town itself was a strange amalgam of styles.
•amalgam restoration, indicating the start of a periapical infection.
•amalgam of various people, places and stories known to the trainer.
•the scheme must not become an indistinct amalgam of action and as a result each diversity area will be clearly identifiable within the scheme.
•the heritage criteria of nations in bloom judging is a complex amalgam of built, natural, cultural and social dimensions of a community.
•amalgam removal with 10 days between visits.
•dentists have used amalgam to fill cavities since the 1800s.
•santa cruz metro the sisters ' music is a unique amalgam of influences.
•amalgam waste that has contacted human body fluids is handled.
•i came back to the inn, asked for some large empty bottles, and made the amalgam.
•a curious amalgam of images crystallized on a translucent screen.
•there isn't much about the promised 802.11 security infrastructure in chapter six: instead we have another amalgam of security problems.
•a bizarre amalgam of modernist esthetics and gothic might, the cathedral is still unfinished, with the completion date rumored to be

However, as no one on the Forum has ever given us the composition for Rolex white gold then perhaps mercury is the secret ingredient.
The potential for contamination would certainly explain the standard of some of the Forum posts.

[frank gama]

Originally Posted by Tw2ntyTwo

Answer to the Everose gold question:

The Rolex 18K Everrose gold is alloyed by Rolex, and actually (and still confusing me to this day) blended with Platinum to ensure the rose color never changes or fades. What this does, i have no idea but that was the word I got from Allen Brill... when he was alive...

The rest of the metals used remain a mystery. I can only assume they blend in copper to make it that red color, but if not, maybe they have some patented method of heating the gold to make it red like they do when they make red glass in Murano.

Copper is the element mixed to give pink gold its colour. However over time the alloy loses copper from the surface due to exposure to chlorine in water etc and begins to look more like yellow gold. Rolex created and patented its own alloy =everose, which uses platinum to bind the copper in the mix. Rolex claim the the color is permanent, forever =hence the name everose.

[Tw2ntyTwo]

Originally Posted by frank gama

Copper is the element mixed to give pink gold its colour. However over time the alloy loses copper from the surface due to exposure to chlorine in water etc and begins to look more like yellow gold. Rolex created and patented its own alloy =everose, which uses platinum to bind the copper in the mix. Rolex claim the the color is permanent, forever =hence the name everose.

AlleyOOP!!!! Solid completion to what i could have turned in to a serious amalagam of theories.

[watchf]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I purchased a day date in everose last week and raised a thread about the last letter on the model number 118235F. Spoke to Rolex in St James Square in UK and was told the F is the latest addition and spec change in Everose gold as the old one had fade issues! Interesting.

Would you happen to know if there are any YG changes though the years or is Rolex still using the same YG formula from way back?

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Tw2ntyTwo

AlleyOOP!!!! Solid completion to what i could have turned in to a serious amalagam of theories.

MERCURIC theories?

[Tw2ntyTwo]

Originally Posted by watchf

Would you happen to know if there are any YG changes though the years or is Rolex still using the same YG formula from way back?

Rolex changed their gold formula from 14K to 18K in a transitional phase from 1979-1985 I believe. A similar transition to the Cerachrom bezel.

[watchf]

Originally Posted by Tw2ntyTwo

Rolex changed their gold formula from 14K to 18K in a transitional phase from 1979-1985 I believe. A similar transition to the Cerachrom bezel.

Thanks. Were there any major fluctuations to the 18k YG mixture after the transition from 14k to 18k? Would you say the 18k YG formula used in the latest model is the same 18k YG used in the 80s?

[Tw2ntyTwo]

Originally Posted by watchf

Thanks. Were there any major fluctuations to the 18k YG mixture after the transition from 14k to 18k? Would you say the 18k YG formula used in the latest model is the same 18k YG used in the 80s?

I can honestly state that I don't know the exact answer to this... I will leave you with this exact quote from RUSA that I was told directly about 2 years ago this june:

"We alloy our own metals in house because we feel our product is a true heirloom. We want the gold in our timepieces to be as recognizable as the Rolex name itself, so we don't have any room to stray from our standards. The product you buy today, will have the exact same gold alloy as your great great grandson's Rolex that he will purchase for himself."

-Kyle

[springbar]

Originally Posted by frank gama

Copper is the element mixed to give pink gold its colour. However over time the alloy loses copper from the surface due to exposure to chlorine in water etc and begins to look more like yellow gold. Rolex created and patented its own alloy =everose, which uses platinum to bind the copper in the mix. Rolex claim the the color is permanent, forever =hence the name everose.

Yes - half the posters here seem to think that no rose gold can fade, which simply isn't the case. However, Rolex says theirs won't, so we'll see.

[watchf]

Originally Posted by Tw2ntyTwo

I can honestly state that I don't know the exact answer to this... I will leave you with this exact quote from RUSA that I was told directly about 2 years ago this june:

"We alloy our own metals in house because we feel our product is a true heirloom. We want the gold in our timepieces to be as recognizable as the Rolex name itself, so we don't have any room to stray from our standards. The product you buy today, will have the exact same gold alloy as your great great grandson's Rolex that he will purchase for himself."

-Kyle

Thanks again Kyle

On a side note aren't they hitting themselves in the foot with that statement since they changed the Rosegold/Evergold mixture stated in one of the post above

[Tw2ntyTwo]

Originally Posted by watchf

Thanks again Kyle

On a side note aren't they hitting themselves in the foot with that statement since they changed the Rosegold/Evergold mixture stated in one of the post above

If Rolex were a millipede, it may have 1 foot left