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dnagwhogas · 14 June 2011, 01:36 AM

I was at the mall the other day and saw this at the window of one of the jewelry shops. A 14060 with SEL? I thought they didn't make any Sub NDs with SEL? (I learned that here on TRF!....

) So the band was probably replaced? Your thoughts.

padi56 · 14 June 2011, 01:43 AM

Any Rolex SEL bracelet will not fit a 14060 or 14060M without some serious modifications and different lug pins.

Johny · 14 June 2011, 02:15 AM

hi are you going back for more information?

CEG · 14 June 2011, 02:53 AM

It looks so much 'cleaner' like that - love it!

dnagwhogas · 14 June 2011, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

hi are you going back for more information?

I might this week. I'll see if I could get all the #'s from the band etc...

dnagwhogas · 14 June 2011, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Any Rolex SEL bracelet will not fit a 14060 or 14060M without some serious modifications and different lug pins.

Assuming the head is authentic, so it's either a modified band or a non-genuine band? Is that right?

dsio · 14 June 2011, 03:11 AM

Its a non engraved non COSC version, could be older so its possible the bracelet's been replaced with an after-market SEL model, my 1680 had a SEL after-market oyster bracelet on it before I bought the 93150, so they'd fit a 14060 too.

Alternatively it wouldn't be the first low end jewelery shop to stick a fake Rolex in the window to lift the standards of the cheap rings and necklaces on offer.

Ed Rooney · 14 June 2011, 05:08 AM

I wore the SEL bracelet from my 16610 on my 14060M, no problem.

Johny · 14 June 2011, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

I might this week. I'll see if I could get all the #'s from the band etc...

great.

ask to see the paperwork. they might show it to you.

Johny · 14 June 2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

Assuming the head is authentic, so it's either a modified band or a non-genuine band? Is that right?

perhaps a modified case.

charlesvdw · 14 June 2011, 06:49 AM

Guys, stupid question, but how do you see it has SEL ?

paddy_crow · 14 June 2011, 07:32 AM

Look at the center link, then compare to a non SEL Oyster bracelet.

moviefreak · 14 June 2011, 08:01 AM

Well I for sure have never seen that stand before... It must be very "rare"..

ewhite · 14 June 2011, 08:03 AM

Any pictures Ed Rooney?

evanvito · 14 June 2011, 08:10 AM

Interesting read. Was also curious about SEL on a 14060. Thanks for sharing

Tijssan · 14 June 2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by charlesvdw

Guys, stupid question, but how do you see it has SEL ?

SEL = solid end link

This means the first link from the head down is one piece VS the two connecting pieces on non SEL bracelets (all on older models)

stockae92 · 14 June 2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

I wore the SEL bracelet from my 16610 on my 14060M, no problem.

more info on this

subtona · 14 June 2011, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Any Rolex SEL bracelet will not fit a 14060 or 14060M without some serious modifications and different lug pins.

i put an SEL on an older 16610 that started out with the stamped old style end links.

specifically i replaced a 93150 with a 93250. perfect fit.

14060 was not made with SEL ever, to the best of my knowledge, don't know how 14060 will differ from 16610 as far as bracelet fit.
but
Padi56 says its a no go (have to give him the nod for having way more expertise than myself)

but i feel that SEL is desirable if given a choice (although not if you want the last word in authenticity) because after wearing the non SEL style bracelet for years, it actually began gauging into the lugs and wearing them unnecessarily. rational is bracelet is easily replaced, while Case frame is quite involved and explensive.

JimSnyder · 14 June 2011, 02:13 PM

It just don't look right. I've never been a fan of SELs

SUBversive · 14 June 2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dnagwhogas

I might this week. I'll see if I could get all the #'s from the band etc...

you have a great set of eyes to pick that up..please go back...this has the makings of a new "how rude my AD was" story!

sleddog · 14 June 2011, 02:29 PM

The short answer is no...Just as Padi said above, the 14060 midcase is not designed to fit the SEL bracelets.
Unless the bracelet is modified or aftermarket, it will not work!

Here's a great little tutorial from Larry, which is in the reference section along with alot of other superb info!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....5&postcount=11

Dweller of the Sea · 14 June 2011, 08:05 PM

I´ve heard that the SEL bracelets that were made for lugholes can fit a 14060M, and that SEL made for non-lugholes can´t.

Jake B · 14 June 2011, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

I wore the SEL bracelet from my 16610 on my 14060M, no problem.

Really? Did your 16610 have lug holes?

Johny · 14 June 2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

The short answer is no...Just as Padi said above, the 14060 midcase is not designed to fit the SEL bracelets.
Unless the bracelet is modified or aftermarket, it will not work!

Here's a great little tutorial from Larry, which is in the reference section along with alot of other superb info!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....5&postcount=11

hi rob could the case not also be modified?

Johny · 14 June 2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dweller of the Sea

I´ve heard that the SEL bracelets that were made for lugholes can fit a 14060M, and that SEL made for non-lugholes can´t.

that is interesting.

experiment time someone...

slevin kelevra · 14 June 2011, 09:33 PM

Interesting.

There are a few people now who have stated that they swapped the SEL Oyster to a 14060 no problems at all.

As Jonny said, Experiment time for someone with both watches!

buke45 · 14 June 2011, 09:45 PM

It was replaced

Johny · 14 June 2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by buke45

It was replaced

what was replaced?

Jake B · 14 June 2011, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

what was replaced?

Yeah...and with what?

broncophil · 15 June 2011, 04:26 AM

i wouldnt trust any dealer that uses a PTOUCH machine to label their rolex displays

14 June 2011, 01:36 AM	#1
dnagwhogas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: MauiBacerdo Location: Chicago Watch: N :Learn Posts: 902	I thought they didn't make 14060 with SELs? What the?? I was at the mall the other day and saw this at the window of one of the jewelry shops. A 14060 with SEL? I thought they didn't make any Sub NDs with SEL? (I learned that here on TRF!....) So the band was probably replaced? Your thoughts. __________________ P-Club Member # 7 Time is what prevents everything from happening at once.

14 June 2011, 01:43 AM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,063	Any Rolex SEL bracelet will not fit a 14060 or 14060M without some serious modifications and different lug pins. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

14 June 2011, 02:15 AM	#3
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14 June 2011, 02:53 AM	#4
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14 June 2011, 03:11 AM	#7
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	Its a non engraved non COSC version, could be older so its possible the bracelet's been replaced with an after-market SEL model, my 1680 had a SEL after-market oyster bracelet on it before I bought the 93150, so they'd fit a 14060 too. Alternatively it wouldn't be the first low end jewelery shop to stick a fake Rolex in the window to lift the standards of the cheap rings and necklaces on offer. __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

14 June 2011, 05:08 AM	#8
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I wore the SEL bracelet from my 16610 on my 14060M, no problem.

14 June 2011, 06:49 AM	#11
charlesvdw Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Flanders Posts: 67	Guys, stupid question, but how do you see it has SEL ?

14 June 2011, 07:32 AM	#12
paddy_crow Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 592	Look at the center link, then compare to a non SEL Oyster bracelet.

14 June 2011, 08:01 AM	#13
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	Well I for sure have never seen that stand before... It must be very "rare".. __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

14 June 2011, 08:03 AM	#14
ewhite "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 85	Any pictures Ed Rooney?

14 June 2011, 08:10 AM	#15
evanvito "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Lennard Location: Fremont, CA Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 408	Interesting read. Was also curious about SEL on a 14060. Thanks for sharing

14 June 2011, 02:13 PM	#19
JimSnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Snyder Location: Ohio Watch: Ask me later..... Posts: 7,726	It just don't look right. I've never been a fan of SELs __________________ "You ain't lived, 'til you've had your tires rotated by a red-headed women."

14 June 2011, 02:29 PM	#21
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,931	The short answer is no...Just as Padi said above, the 14060 midcase is not designed to fit the SEL bracelets. Unless the bracelet is modified or aftermarket, it will not work! Here's a great little tutorial from Larry, which is in the reference section along with alot of other superb info! http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....5&postcount=11 __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

14 June 2011, 08:05 PM	#22
Dweller of the Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: EU Watch: ing TRF Posts: 576	I´ve heard that the SEL bracelets that were made for lugholes can fit a 14060M, and that SEL made for non-lugholes can´t.

14 June 2011, 09:33 PM	#26
slevin kelevra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Watch: 14060m Posts: 631	Interesting. There are a few people now who have stated that they swapped the SEL Oyster to a 14060 no problems at all. As Jonny said, Experiment time for someone with both watches!

14 June 2011, 09:45 PM	#27
buke45 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Ponce, PR Watch: Your Butt Posts: 1,464	It was replaced

15 June 2011, 04:26 AM	#30
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