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Z_Z · 30 June 2011, 03:06 PM

I'm being offered this E series (1991) ladies datejust and I'm considering buying it for someone.

The watch does not come with papers but the seller claims that it is virtually new.

Do help me authenticate this watch from the pictures. I am also surprised that the watch has virturally no bracelet stretch.

Finally, what would an appropriate price be?

Tools · 30 June 2011, 03:23 PM

Looks to be in very good condition

superdelsol · 30 June 2011, 04:07 PM

My wife has the same watch with a blue dial, and also an E-series. The watch in the photos looks authentic, with the appropriate markings and dial, and in good condition. I would suggest bringing any pre-owned watch to a trusted watch-maker for authentication. I have seen this model sell from $2000-$2800 from individual sellers, and more from jewelers, depending on condition, last service, and whether or not it included box, papers, etc..

Z_Z · 30 June 2011, 04:16 PM

The buyer is asking for $3000. However, on TRF it doesn't seem to go for more than $2000.

superdelsol · 30 June 2011, 04:44 PM

There are many factors which will influence the asking price as well as the final sale price. Condition, service history, originality, dial color and type, box & papers all affect the price. Fortunately these watches are plentiful in the market, and can be found easily here and elsewhere. The champagne stick dial seems to be the most common, with blue, black, and white stick dials less common. I have also seen some dials with Romans as well. The watch in the photos appears to to have been worn very little judging by the condition of the case-back sticker, and the lack of stretch in the jubilee bracelet. Is this watch being sold face to face? If so and you like the watch, make the seller a reasonable offer, and maybe you will get the watch for the right price. If the watch is being sold via the internet, then there are other concerns that need to be addressed.

padi56 · 30 June 2011, 04:55 PM

Looks very good to me but if no service history it would be prudent to budget for a service, then you will get Rolex service papers with a current 2 year warranty.

denzo · 30 June 2011, 05:20 PM

Looks like a super watch - good find.
I would try and negotiate the price down to accommodate a full RSC service

Z_Z · 30 June 2011, 11:53 PM

The labour charge for a full service is $60 from the Rolex trained tech. It's also keeping good time so I don't think that'll be much of an issue.

Considering resale value and future desirability how much should I pay for the watch?

HPY · 1 July 2011, 12:36 AM

looks authentic and in good condition.

BeekerMuppet · 4 July 2011, 05:44 PM

Seems OK. Clasp code P12 dates it december 1991, so date seems correct. $3K seems a bit high, though.

30 June 2011, 03:06 PM	#1
Z_Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: India Posts: 70	authenticating 69173 I'm being offered this E series (1991) ladies datejust and I'm considering buying it for someone. The watch does not come with papers but the seller claims that it is virtually new. Do help me authenticate this watch from the pictures. I am also surprised that the watch has virturally no bracelet stretch. Finally, what would an appropriate price be? Attached Images

30 June 2011, 03:23 PM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Looks to be in very good condition __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 June 2011, 04:07 PM	#3
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	My wife has the same watch with a blue dial, and also an E-series. The watch in the photos looks authentic, with the appropriate markings and dial, and in good condition. I would suggest bringing any pre-owned watch to a trusted watch-maker for authentication. I have seen this model sell from $2000-$2800 from individual sellers, and more from jewelers, depending on condition, last service, and whether or not it included box, papers, etc.. __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

30 June 2011, 04:44 PM	#5
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	There are many factors which will influence the asking price as well as the final sale price. Condition, service history, originality, dial color and type, box & papers all affect the price. Fortunately these watches are plentiful in the market, and can be found easily here and elsewhere. The champagne stick dial seems to be the most common, with blue, black, and white stick dials less common. I have also seen some dials with Romans as well. The watch in the photos appears to to have been worn very little judging by the condition of the case-back sticker, and the lack of stretch in the jubilee bracelet. Is this watch being sold face to face? If so and you like the watch, make the seller a reasonable offer, and maybe you will get the watch for the right price. If the watch is being sold via the internet, then there are other concerns that need to be addressed. __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

30 June 2011, 04:55 PM	#6
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,060	Looks very good to me but if no service history it would be prudent to budget for a service, then you will get Rolex service papers with a current 2 year warranty. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

30 June 2011, 04:16 PM	#4
Z_Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: India Posts: 70	The buyer is asking for $3000. However, on TRF it doesn't seem to go for more than $2000.

30 June 2011, 05:20 PM	#7
denzo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cheshire Watch: DJ 116234 Roman N Posts: 197	Looks like a super watch - good find. I would try and negotiate the price down to accommodate a full RSC service

30 June 2011, 11:53 PM	#8
Z_Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: India Posts: 70	The labour charge for a full service is $60 from the Rolex trained tech. It's also keeping good time so I don't think that'll be much of an issue. Considering resale value and future desirability how much should I pay for the watch?

1 July 2011, 12:36 AM	#9
HPY Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: PH Watch: Daytona Posts: 213	looks authentic and in good condition.

4 July 2011, 05:44 PM	#10
BeekerMuppet "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Yuri Location: NL Watch: 14000M, 16570 Posts: 574	Seems OK. Clasp code P12 dates it december 1991, so date seems correct. $3K seems a bit high, though. __________________ (Wearing) First Luxury Watch: Seiko Kinetic Arctura 5M42-0E39 & First Rolex: Air King 14000M Black dial (K) & Second Rolex: Explorer II 16570 White dial (V) (Saving for) Grand Seiko SBGH015J1

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