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ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 03:33 AM

I never really believed people when they said a NATO strap could work a spring bar out of the lugs. Especially not when it was a smooth spring bar used on a thru-hole lug.

Well, just a few minutes ago, my watch became really loose on my wrist. I looked down and it was dangling by one spring bar.

I was shocked that it had broken (my first thought) since it was literally 3 days old from Ofrei. A little searching on the floor and I found it...perfectly intact.

It must have wriggled it's way out due to the strap.

Fair warning, folks!

acce1999 · 9 July 2011, 04:24 AM

Thanks for the warning.

Nato straps are only really good for watches with solid fixed lug pins; military style. I have a Nato strap that I use occasionally, but I always keep my watches on their standard bracelet when I want to feel secure. The latest all solid SELs keeps the pin firmly in place and you need to apply more than 100 kg to snap one of them. I guess they are dimensioned to break just before your arm do.

Still, some Nato straps makes a watch look very cool. I've seen a WG DD on grey Nato... very different ... really cool...

I am glad you did not lose your watch.

Best,

A

2th Dr · 9 July 2011, 04:29 AM

Wow!

fc3s2k · 9 July 2011, 04:33 AM

Your lucky no severe damage done!!

Passionata · 9 July 2011, 04:44 AM

Was a 20mm strap or smaller?smaller can "pull"out the bars .

Nalk7 · 9 July 2011, 04:54 AM

Thanks for the heads up! Im glad the other spring bar didnt fail and your watch wasnt damaged. I wear my watches exclusively on NATO's so Ill keep an eye out

dddrees · 9 July 2011, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passionata

Was a 20mm strap or smaller?smaller can "pull"out the bars .

I would be interested to hear the answer to this question and whether that matters or not.

ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passionata

Was a 20mm strap or smaller?smaller can "pull"out the bars .

20mm Olive NATO G-10 from Broadarrow.

Definitely a surprise to me.

I would suspect that the likelihood that they would BOTH come out would be extraordinarily low...so I'm not too concerned with it. I'll keep on wearing my NATO's 90% of the time!

Clay · 9 July 2011, 05:38 AM

I had that happen to me once with my Sea Dweller while chopping wood.....

I still wear my watches on NATOs however...Just no longer while I'm chopping wood ...

ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay

I had that happen to me once with my Sea Dweller while chopping wood.....

I still wear my watches on NATOs however...Just no longer while I'm chopping wood ...

I was sitting at my desk at work...talking to a co-worker. I'm semi-animated with my hands...but not that much!

clubsta · 9 July 2011, 07:09 AM

I think natos work best with watch cases that have lug holes.

ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubsta

I think natos work best with watch cases that have lug holes.

My opinion too. The disturbing part is that my 14060 has lug holes. Never in a million years would I have thought it could happen.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 9 July 2011, 08:31 AM

I would suspect the non Rolex spring bar.

onryo · 9 July 2011, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

I would suspect the non Rolex spring bar.

My thoughts exactly, but I've purchased a few from Otto Frei over the years and they've always been high quality. I wish Rolex would sell some of the more common parts over the counter. I can understand withholding some of them, but springbars and friction washers? Come on...

mrbill2mrbill2 · 9 July 2011, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onryo

My thoughts exactly, but I've purchased a few from Otto Frei over the years and they've always been high quality. I wish Rolex would sell some of the more common parts over the counter. I can understand withholding some of them, but springbars and friction washers? Come on...

x2!

Dr. Robert · 9 July 2011, 09:28 AM

You have to be kidding????..............Rolex won't sell spring bars to their AD's to sell
retail to customers, bah humbug.

I'd better make sure not to lose my Rolex & Tudor spring bars.
For those TRFers in Asia, Europe, S. America, Canada, Mexico, Australia etc.
etc. etc. can you buy Rolex made spring bars from your AD's????
I guess I am lucky I live near the Rolex SF licensed Rolex service place, I have bought Rolex made straps from them, I will ask if I can buy Rolex
spring bars from them????

Right now my thoughts on RolexUSA

ExpII · 9 July 2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onryo

My thoughts exactly, but I've purchased a few from Otto Frei over the years and they've always been high quality. I wish Rolex would sell some of the more common parts over the counter. I can understand withholding some of them, but springbars and friction washers? Come on...

I bought springbars for 14060 from my AD. I had to buy a bag of 5 but they're Rolex.

STEELINOX · 9 July 2011, 10:54 AM

I've gotten spring bars from ROLEX Beverly Hills before, they socked it to me man, $5 for two ~ !

ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 11:10 AM

I suppose it could be due to the fact that they are Ofrei spring bars. But I've heard that Rolex spring bars can do the same thing.

I'm not 100% sure that my spring bars are original (I bought my watch used), but they look identical to my untrained eye.

ecsub44 · 9 July 2011, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

I've gotten spring bars from ROLEX Beverly Hills before, they socked it to me man, $5 for two ~ !

You got off easy...I paid $4 each for mine!

Passionata · 9 July 2011, 04:30 PM

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acce1999 · 9 July 2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

For those TRFers in Asia, Europe, S. America, Canada, Mexico, Australia etc.
etc. etc. can you buy Rolex made spring bars from your AD's????

Europe: Yes.

But lately a similar policy as in the US seems to be implemented, where the old parts must be returned. I do not like it.

padi56 · 9 July 2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubsta

I think natos work best with watch cases that have lug holes.

X2 And a little bit more secure.

77T · 9 July 2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

I've gotten spring bars from ROLEX Beverly Hills before, they socked it to me man, $5 for two ~ !

Does a subcontractor make spring bars for Rolex to their own specification?

Jason71 · 9 July 2011, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

I would suspect the non Rolex spring bar.

I would suspect that you have not held an Ofrei spring bar in your hand before. Rolex springbars are no better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

I never really believed people when they said a NATO strap could work a spring bar out of the lugs. Especially not when it was a smooth spring bar used on a thru-hole lug.

Well, just a few minutes ago, my watch became really loose on my wrist. I looked down and it was dangling by one spring bar.

I was shocked that it had broken (my first thought) since it was literally 3 days old from Ofrei. A little searching on the floor and I found it...perfectly intact.

It must have wriggled it's way out due to the strap.

Fair warning, folks!

I am not saying that it is impossible, but I just have not ever had it happen before. Just curious........Are you absolutely certain that you ordered the correct replacement bars? Shoulderless bars for the drilled-through lug

Post some pictures of the bars that you were using. IMHO, you had the most secure setup possible..........High quality Ofrei bars, and the best quality MARATAC Nato. Shows that anything can happen.

Jason71 · 9 July 2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Does a subcontractor make spring bars for Rolex to their own specification?

Yea, Ofrei makes them for Rolex

Jason71 · 9 July 2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passionata

Pls tell us how does your sringbar looks like?Attachment 213411

Hopefully, they do not look like these because these would be incorrect for a 14060M

padi56 · 9 July 2011, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

I would suspect that you have not held an Ofrei spring bar in your hand before. Rolex springbars are no better.

I am not saying that it is impossible, but I just have not ever had it happen before. Just curious........Are you absolutely certain that you ordered the correct replacement bars? Shoulderless bars for the drilled-through lug

Post some pictures of the bars that you were using. IMHO, you had the most secure setup possible..........High quality Ofrei bars, and the best quality MARATAC Nato. Shows that anything can happen.

Have to agree and the Swiss made Ofrei are to the same spec as Rolex own,and most properly from the same sourse that Rolex uses.

ecsub44 · 10 July 2011, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passionata

Pls tell us how does your sringbar looks like?Attachment 213411

The first one. That's what I meant when I said "smooth" and when I said the spring bars for a watch that has thru hole lugs.

ecsub44 · 10 July 2011, 01:10 AM

I'm 99% sure that I bought the correct bars. Ofrei FB-7896. It says they are the ones for the 14060.

Here's a bad pic of the setup.

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9 July 2011, 03:33 AM	#1
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	Spring Bar Failure! I never really believed people when they said a NATO strap could work a spring bar out of the lugs. Especially not when it was a smooth spring bar used on a thru-hole lug. Well, just a few minutes ago, my watch became really loose on my wrist. I looked down and it was dangling by one spring bar. I was shocked that it had broken (my first thought) since it was literally 3 days old from Ofrei. A little searching on the floor and I found it...perfectly intact. It must have wriggled it's way out due to the strap. Fair warning, folks!

9 July 2011, 04:33 AM	#4
fc3s2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Barry Location: california Watch: OFFICINE PANERAI Posts: 1,289	Your lucky no severe damage done!! __________________

9 July 2011, 04:44 AM	#5
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	Was a 20mm strap or smaller?smaller can "pull"out the bars . __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

9 July 2011, 08:31 AM	#13
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I would suspect the non Rolex spring bar. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

9 July 2011, 09:28 AM	#16
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,277	You have to be kidding????..............Rolex won't sell spring bars to their AD's to sell retail to customers, bah humbug. I'd better make sure not to lose my Rolex & Tudor spring bars. For those TRFers in Asia, Europe, S. America, Canada, Mexico, Australia etc. etc. etc. can you buy Rolex made spring bars from your AD's???? I guess I am lucky I live near the Rolex SF licensed Rolex service place, I have bought Rolex made straps from them, I will ask if I can buy Rolex spring bars from them???? Right now my thoughts on RolexUSA __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

9 July 2011, 04:24 AM	#2
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	Thanks for the warning. Nato straps are only really good for watches with solid fixed lug pins; military style. I have a Nato strap that I use occasionally, but I always keep my watches on their standard bracelet when I want to feel secure. The latest all solid SELs keeps the pin firmly in place and you need to apply more than 100 kg to snap one of them. I guess they are dimensioned to break just before your arm do. Still, some Nato straps makes a watch look very cool. I've seen a WG DD on grey Nato... very different ... really cool... I am glad you did not lose your watch. Best, A

9 July 2011, 04:29 AM	#3
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	Wow!

9 July 2011, 04:54 AM	#6
Nalk7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Miguel Location: East Lansing MI Watch: 114270,5508,124060 Posts: 562	Thanks for the heads up! Im glad the other spring bar didnt fail and your watch wasnt damaged. I wear my watches exclusively on NATO's so Ill keep an eye out

9 July 2011, 05:38 AM	#9
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I had that happen to me once with my Sea Dweller while chopping wood..... I still wear my watches on NATOs however...Just no longer while I'm chopping wood ...

9 July 2011, 07:09 AM	#11
clubsta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: John Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 223	I think natos work best with watch cases that have lug holes.

9 July 2011, 10:54 AM	#18
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	I've gotten spring bars from ROLEX Beverly Hills before, they socked it to me man, $5 for two ~ ! __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

9 July 2011, 11:10 AM	#19
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	I suppose it could be due to the fact that they are Ofrei spring bars. But I've heard that Rolex spring bars can do the same thing. I'm not 100% sure that my spring bars are original (I bought my watch used), but they look identical to my untrained eye. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

9 July 2011, 04:30 PM	#21
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	Pls tell us how does your sringbar looks like? Attached Images __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

10 July 2011, 01:10 AM	#30
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	I'm 99% sure that I bought the correct bars. Ofrei FB-7896. It says they are the ones for the 14060. Here's a bad pic of the setup. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

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