GMT II HELP!***GMT hand is loosing time!

[757doc001]

I recently acquired a GMT II pepsi Z serial in a trade with a fellow forum member. I have set the GMT hand to local time and set the hour hand on east coast time to use both functions.

Since 2 o'clock today the GMT hand has lost 1.5 hrs, the regularly time is correct, It seems the GMT hand is slow but regular hands keep good time.

I am new to GMT functions but this just doesn't seem correct, can someone chime in and help me out. The forum member I got it from has been honest with me the whole time so I don't think he knew there was a problem because he never used that function.

Please advise how I might check, I would rather not have to spend money at a AD finding out whats wrong with the watch..

Thanks TRF!

[Christiaan]

Its possible that the hand is loose on the stem...

[vb2011]

Though this may sound obvious, but you know that the GMT hand's time is read against the numbers on the bezel, right? The GMT hand will rotate only once every 24 hours while the normal hands will rotate twice every 24 hours. Do check that the slowness of the GMT hand is not because you are reading it wrong?

[Andad]

x2.

[bondtoys]

The "GMT" hand is not called like that for a reason.

It's the 24 hour hand - which obviously means, that it's doing one complete turn every 24 hours.
The hour hand does this in 12 hours, so, it's moving at double speed compared to the 24 hr. hand.

You can read the 24 hr. hand only on the bezel, not on the dial

[Andad]

Yup, we covered that in post 3.

I am sure the OP has it sorted.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by vb2011

though this may sound obvious, but you know that the gmt hand's time is read against the numbers on the bezel, right? The gmt hand will rotate only once every 24 hours while the normal hands will rotate twice every 24 hours. Do check that the slowness of the gmt hand is not because you are reading it wrong?

x3

[757doc001]

Thanks so much! I think I was reading it wrong, I used a tutorial off of watch you seek and it said nothing about the GMT hand only making one completion every 24hours.

I will search for a tutorial on here! Thanks again!

[Turk]

Loosing time?

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Turk

Loosing time?

Yup...that's one of my favorites. Right up there with Please "advice"

[Tools]

Originally Posted by 757doc001

Thanks so much! I think I was reading it wrong, I used a tutorial off of watch you seek and it said nothing about the GMT hand only making one completion every 24hours.

I will search for a tutorial on here! Thanks again!

Yep.. It's not properly called a "GMT hand", that's the name of the watch, nothing more...

If you think of it properly as the "24 hour" hand, it makes more sense that you read the time off of the "24 hour" bezel...

To properly use your watch, you would set the 24 hour hand to local time, and the hour hand to local time, then rotate the bezel the difference between your time and East Coast time. You would then always have East Coast time on the bezel (if you keep it offset). When you travel to the East Coast, you would jump your hour hand to the new time-zone and reset the bezel; then you would be reading East Coast time off of the dial and your home time off of the bezel. This way you never lose track of your home time.

If you don't really plan to travel there, then you can set East Coast time with the 24 hr hand and your local time on the hour dial. You then show both all the time..

The key is that wherever you are in the world, your GMT II watch can function as a normal watch, read in the normal way... (The GMT Master is just the opposite and always displays home time. You needed to rotate the bezel for any other zone)

[757doc001]

If you don't really plan to travel there, then you can set East Coast time with the 24 hr hand and your local time on the hour dial. You then show both all the time..

So in this example I am not using the bezel at all?

That what I did and the 24 hour hand didnt track together with the hour hand, at first there was a 3hr difference but after a few hours it would not slow down and wouldnt track together....

That was my experience, am I still missing something?

[Richard.]

For me, with a GMT II, the routine is to set the hour hand to local time and the 24 hour hand to GMT. That way GMT is always available (for logging flight times) and local time is adjusted on the fly as necessary. If you need to keep track of your home time then adjust the bezel as necessary. With a two-coloured one this will also give you night/day orientation if you find that useful.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by 757doc001

If you don't really plan to travel there, then you can set East Coast time with the 24 hr hand and your local time on the hour dial. You then show both all the time..

So in this example I am not using the bezel at all?

That what I did and the 24 hour hand didnt track together with the hour hand, at first there was a 3hr difference but after a few hours it would not slow down and wouldnt track together....

That was my experience, am I still missing something?

Yes, you are missing something..

You ALWAYS read time for the 24 hour hand using the bezel... there are no exceptions... You NEVER try to use the 24 hour hand and the inside dial..

Based on your initial post, you set it backwards.. Your dial hour hand should be set to the timezone where you are physically located.

If you want to follow East Coast time (I assume that it is different than your local time) then do this...

1. Synchronize the hands........... Set the 24 hr hand to 2400 hrs (straight up). jump the hour hand around until it is at midnight (the date changes at midnight)

2. Pull the stem all the way out and set the 24 hr hand to East Coast time using the 24 hour bezel (you know, 1600 is 4 pm, etc.)

3. Push the stem in a click and jump the hand to your local time (either back or forward, whichever is the closest way to get there)

4. Push the stem in all the way.. You should now have East Coast time on the bezel using a 24 hour clock and 24 hour hand, and your local time on the dial using a 12 hour time-frame..

[(DMB)]

Originally Posted by Speed

Yup...that's one of my favorites. Right up there with Please "advice"

Thanks you. That is really beginning to drive me insane.

[Paracentesis]

Originally Posted by Speed

Yup...that's one of my favorites. Right up there with Please "advice"

Me too. Also "unique" when describing a mass-produced watch.

[757doc001]

Originally Posted by (DMB)

Thanks you. That is really beginning to drive me insane.

I thought people in cajun country were already insane

[757doc001]

Originally Posted by Paracentesis

Me too. Also "unique" when describing a mass-produced watch.

Alright James I never said unique I have never started a fist fight over a forum before but someone from UK should know how to do it!

[757doc001]

Thanks Larry thats the best explanation so far, now I get it, MaybeI am the only one confused by all the diff examples but I would rather risk looking like a DA tgen have a tool watchand not know to use the tool. Big thanks to TRF crew, especially those who maid fun of my grammatical error.

Thanks again Larry

Originally Posted by Tools

Yes, you are missing something..

You ALWAYS read time for the 24 hour hand using the bezel... there are no exceptions... You NEVER try to use the 24 hour hand and the inside dial..

Based on your initial post, you set it backwards.. Your dial hour hand should be set to the timezone where you are physically located.

If you want to follow East Coast time (I assume that it is different than your local time) then do this...

1. Synchronize the hands........... Set the 24 hr hand to 2400 hrs (straight up). jump the hour hand around until it is at midnight (the date changes at midnight)

2. Pull the stem all the way out and set the 24 hr hand to East Coast time using the 24 hour bezel (you know, 1600 is 4 pm, etc.)

3. Push the stem in a click and jump the hand to your local time (either back or forward, whichever is the closest way to get there)

4. Push the stem in all the way.. You should now have East Coast time on the bezel using a 24 hour clock and 24 hour hand, and your local time on the dial using a 12 hour time-frame..

[Jason71]

You don't happen to have a "scratch" on the caseback that was inflicted by the plastic on a watch-winder, do you???

Glad you got the issue sorted