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Lisa · 26 August 2011, 03:50 AM

Watches from the mid to late-1990s were lumed in tritium, which is dead by now. If you want the dial and hands to still glow, will RSC give you a new dial and hands with the new luminova?

Okay, then what about this scenario: what if the old tritium dial is a Roman numeral Datejust? (these had tiny dots of tritium at the hour markers and on the hands.) The new Roman dials and hands have no lume at the markers at all. Would RSC relume the old dial and hands, or would they insist on replacement with non-lume dial/hands?

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 04:07 AM

Well, I called RSC in Dallas and got my answer - old tritium dials are not relumed. All they would do is replace the dial and hands with new ones. Since the new Roman dial does not have lume, I'd be left with a watch that doesn't glow. That sucks!

Puffy · 26 August 2011, 04:19 AM

Personally I'd never change if the lume had died on one of mine, never that far from a mobile phone or clock radio anyway

Also better to keep it as original as possible...

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

Personally I'd never change if the lume had died on one of mine, never that far from a mobile phone or clock radio anyway

Also better to keep it as original as possible...

I know, Puffy... but I'm such a fool for lume... I'm one of those nerds who gets under the covers at night and stares at the dial.

The vintage purists will shake their heads at me, but I figure if the watch was intended to glow at one time then it still should. And I get a little frustrated at Rolex for their staunch policies about replacing old lumed dials and hands - even when it means the new parts aren't lumed at all. I think they should be willing to re-lume old hands and dials.

Darned RSC.

At least I still have my luminova Explorer II and Tudor Chrono....

TSW · 26 August 2011, 04:47 AM

You can get the dial from Rolex Switzerland if you send them your watch.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TSW

You can get the dial from Rolex Switzerland if you send them your watch.

What dial would that be? A new-old-stock tritium Datejust dial wouldn't glow anymore, either.

Puffy · 26 August 2011, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

I know, Puffy... but I'm such a fool for lume... I'm one of those nerds who gets under the covers at night and stares at the dial.

The vintage purists will shake their heads at me, but I figure if the watch was intended to glow at one time then it still should. And I get a little frustrated at Rolex for their staunch policies about replacing old lumed dials and hands - even when it means the new parts aren't lumed at all. I think they should be willing to re-lume old hands and dials.

Darned RSC.

At least I still have my luminova Explorer II and Tudor Chrono....

me too Lisa

I got my DSSD today and i've been luming it up all day and looked at the dial under my desk and in dark areas - i can't wait for winter so i can really stare at the dial

agree if the owner wants a dial and hands relumed then RSC should do it

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

me too Lisa

I got my DSSD today and i've been luming it up all day and looked at the dial under my desk and in dark areas - i can't wait for winter so i can really stare at the dial

agree if the owner wants a dial and hands relumed then RSC should do it

Well you know you have to post a pic of that.

Johny · 26 August 2011, 06:03 AM

hi lisa "jason 71" had a dial relumed privately. he posted the details in the vintage section.

TSW · 26 August 2011, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

What dial would that be? A new-old-stock tritium Datejust dial wouldn't glow anymore, either.

I think you are right about that Lisa

landroverking · 26 August 2011, 06:09 AM

I just got my Zenith back this month. RSC didn't adress the issue in any form. Didn't offer any options.

The Joker · 26 August 2011, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

I'm one of those nerds who gets under the covers at night and stares at the dial.

That's sweet Lisa.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

hi lisa "jason 71" had a dial relumed privately. he posted the details in the vintage section.

I remember that thread. Will read it again... he had excellent results as I recall.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

That's sweet Lisa.

Maybe just pitiful....

Johny · 26 August 2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

I remember that thread. Will read it again... he had excellent results as I recall.

hi lisa
i think that he also said that various colours/shades were available.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by landroverking

I just got my Zenith back this month. RSC didn't adress the issue in any form. Didn't offer any options.

Hmmm. Maybe the RSC won't do anything about lume unless the customer specifically asks, and then they'll offer a replacement dial.

I know the topic has been discussed a lot, but there's just not a happy place for lovers of vintage Rolex to be if they also love lume.

(except that I would be happy with a relume... from somewhere else.)

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

hi lisa
i think that he also said that various colours/shades were available.

You're right. Definitely an option I will consider. Except that I promise not to go with bright pink lume.

PS - I still think Rolex should relume older models (stamps foot).

Jason71 · 26 August 2011, 07:09 AM

Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread.

I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO.

And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc.

http://www.everestwatchworks.com/

Before the relume

After

Johny · 26 August 2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

You're right. Definitely an option I will consider. Except that I promise not to go with bright pink lume.

PS - I still think Rolex should relume older models (stamps foot).

nothing wrong with pink lume. i dont think they care about anything except new sales.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 07:19 AM

[QUOTE=Jason71;2695851]Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread.

I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO.

And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc.

Jason, he did a beautiful job on your watch. I remember it had been previously relumed when you bought it. What a vast improvement the new relume is! Right down to age-appropriate patina... I love it.

Johny · 26 August 2011, 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=Lisa;2695865]

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread.

I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO.

And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc.

Jason, he did a beautiful job on your watch. I remember it had been previously relumed when you bought it. What a vast improvement the new relume is! Right down to age-appropriate patina... I love it.

x2. kent saved that dial. imo

dddrees · 26 August 2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread.

I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO.

And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc.

Well worth it Jason, looks 200% better.

Jason71 · 26 August 2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Jason, he did a beautiful job on your watch. I remember it had been previously relumed when you bought it. What a vast improvement the new relume is! Right down to age-appropriate patina... I love it.

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Originally Posted by dddrees

Well worth it Jason, looks 200% better.

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Originally Posted by Johny

x2. kent saved that dial. imo

Thanks everyone

Funny thing is..........I LOVE this watch now. I know it is a bit less accepted by the vintage community, but it:

--Has new, functional, secure lume. I don't worry about the lume flaking-off. I wear it swimming, biking, etc.
--Keeps EXCELLENT time. It is +0.5-1sec/day.
--Looks GREAT IMHO.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 09:12 AM

Jason, can you tell us what material your guy used to do the relume? Is it the same stuff as luminova?

Jason71 · 26 August 2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Jason, can you tell us what material your guy used to do the relume? Is it the same stuff as luminova?

It is Superluminova. I cannot say for certain whether it is C1, C3, or C7 though.

BTW, The hands were already luminova service hands from Rolex. However, if you notice in the "before" picture, there is a small pin-hole in the lume at the base of the hour-hand. He stripped off the lume on the hands and relumed them as well to match the lume on the dial.

Zed Homme · 26 August 2011, 09:46 AM

I went through this with my tritium Pepsi.

I dont care if the lume doesn't work, I just wanted the watch serviced by the RSC. Rolex insisted on replacing the dial and hands with a newer luminova version. Since I didn't want a service dial, they sent the watch back and told me they would refuse to service it in the future. It saddens me that a company that makes such great watches has such terrible customer service...

D. Whitman · 26 August 2011, 12:31 PM

I just love your new avitar, Lisa. So cool!

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed Homme

I went through this with my tritium Pepsi.

I dont care if the lume doesn't work, I just wanted the watch serviced by the RSC. Rolex insisted on replacing the dial and hands with a newer luminova version. Since I didn't want a service dial, they sent the watch back and told me they would refuse to service it in the future. It saddens me that a company that makes such great watches has such terrible customer service...

This seems to be one type of product in which the customer isn't always right; the company is.

Speed · 26 August 2011, 02:45 PM

Lisa,

You are such a geek.

And I mean that in the best possible way.

Lisa · 26 August 2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Whitman

I just love your new avitar, Lisa. So cool!

Thanks! It's actually one I had early on and used for a long time.

26 August 2011, 03:50 AM	#1
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	What does RSC do for watches with dead tritium lume? Watches from the mid to late-1990s were lumed in tritium, which is dead by now. If you want the dial and hands to still glow, will RSC give you a new dial and hands with the new luminova? Okay, then what about this scenario: what if the old tritium dial is a Roman numeral Datejust? (these had tiny dots of tritium at the hour markers and on the hands.) The new Roman dials and hands have no lume at the markers at all. Would RSC relume the old dial and hands, or would they insist on replacement with non-lume dial/hands?

26 August 2011, 04:19 AM	#3
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	Personally I'd never change if the lume had died on one of mine, never that far from a mobile phone or clock radio anyway Also better to keep it as original as possible... __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

26 August 2011, 04:47 AM	#5
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	You can get the dial from Rolex Switzerland if you send them your watch. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

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26 August 2011, 07:09 AM	#18
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread. I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO. And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc. http://www.everestwatchworks.com/ Before the relume After __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

26 August 2011, 04:07 AM	#2
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Well, I called RSC in Dallas and got my answer - old tritium dials are not relumed. All they would do is replace the dial and hands with new ones. Since the new Roman dial does not have lume, I'd be left with a watch that doesn't glow. That sucks!

26 August 2011, 06:09 AM	#11
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I just got my Zenith back this month. RSC didn't adress the issue in any form. Didn't offer any options.

26 August 2011, 07:19 AM	#20
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	[QUOTE=Jason71;2695851]Sorry Lisa. I am just getting to this thread. I did get my 5513 relumed by a guy that is highly regarding in watch circles for his work. His name is Kent Parks. You can get different colors, shades, etc. He is not a Rolex Certified Watchmaker, but his relume jobs are 2nd to none. I couldn't be happier with the results. It cost me ~ $175 and that was to get the pearl relumed also. Kent is sometimes a little slow to respond, and it took me ~ 6 weeks to get it back after I sent it off. However, his work is worth it IMHO. And yes, there are several different options as far as lume colors, SL, etc. Jason, he did a beautiful job on your watch. I remember it had been previously relumed when you bought it. What a vast improvement the new relume is! Right down to age-appropriate patina... I love it.

26 August 2011, 09:12 AM	#24
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Jason, can you tell us what material your guy used to do the relume? Is it the same stuff as luminova?

26 August 2011, 09:46 AM	#26
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	I went through this with my tritium Pepsi. I dont care if the lume doesn't work, I just wanted the watch serviced by the RSC. Rolex insisted on replacing the dial and hands with a newer luminova version. Since I didn't want a service dial, they sent the watch back and told me they would refuse to service it in the future. It saddens me that a company that makes such great watches has such terrible customer service...

26 August 2011, 12:31 PM	#27
D. Whitman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gabe Location: Arizona Watch: 116500 Posts: 116	I just love your new avitar, Lisa. So cool!

26 August 2011, 02:45 PM	#29
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Lisa, You are such a geek. And I mean that in the best possible way.

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